Currently watching it. They’re discussing foreign policy right now
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It’s playing on GEO
Watch it HERE
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dude like i said we dont have a faaran policy of our own
no point watching some wanna-be paalitishuns talk about faaraun policy
things happen differently in our country
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they should have done it thru youtube, i would sure send a few questions to these wanna-bes
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They shouuuuuld do that…!!! 
@ Faaran policy…more like Fauran policy…implemented with just one phone call!
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hahaha good one
Fauran Policy: one fone call and taliban become our enemies, one fone call and BB lands back in pak. thats the whole crux of our Fauran Policy 
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yea seriously dude. I mean the formula's there....politicians are just toooo weak and afraid to implement it because they resources are foreign if u know what i mean.
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..more like Fauran policy...implemented with just one phone call!
:smiLe:
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And Indians were “fauran say pehlay” when they offered their military bases long before Pakistan agreed. And Indians were the leaders of NAM (Non Aligned Movement). NAM! Ji Ji. First NAM with full alignment with commies. Once the commie master was dead, then run to the new master. That’s the Fauran policy of world’s biggest democracy.
And then people accuse Pakistan. At best we can call such statements as myopic analysis by one-eyed danishwar hazrat (intellectuals)..
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And Indians were "fauran say pehlay" when they offered their military bases long before Pakistan agreed. And Indians were the leaders of NAM (Non Aligned Movement). NAM! Ji Ji. First NAM with full alignment with commies. Once the commie master was dead, then run to the new master. That's the Fauran policy of world's biggest democracy.
And then people accuse Pakistan. At best we can call such statements as myopic analysis by one-eyed danishwar hazrat (intellectuals)..
Burqa Posh Bhaijaan or is it Bibi, we dont have to compare ourselves to India in every walk of life. Let them do the things how they do in their house. The point remains that we dont have a Faaran policy of our own. It has been dictated to us by US throughout the decades.
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Burqa Posh Bhaijaan or is it Bibi, we dont have to compare ourselves to India in every walk of life. Let them do the things how they do in their house. The point remains that we dont have a Faaran policy of our own. It has been dictated to us by US throughout the decades.
5abi bro! you are right. We should not follow Indian habits of paan masala, poverty, pollution, and caste system and worst of all their British-Indian Political parties where only dynasties like Gandhi, Lallu Parsad, or Mayavati rule. Or the ones like BJP who murder 1000's of their country men in the name of a broken down building called babri.
However we should learn and respect Indians where they do good for themselves and for the region. Indians are hardworking. We must learn from them. Indians are humble, we must learn from them. Indians are good in business, we must learn from them. Same way Indians are bending over backwards to keep Americans happy, and in return beg, borrow, and earn $billions for their country. So copy their "FAuran say pehlay" policy and it will be good for Pakistani masses.
So yes, copy the good things from everyone even from Hindus, instead of bringing home Arab tribalism in the name of Islam.
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However we should learn and respect Indians where they do good for themselves and for the region. Indians are hardworking. We must learn from them. Indians are humble, we must learn from them. Indians are good in business, we must learn from them. Same way Indians are bending over backwards to keep Americans happy, and in return beg, borrow, and earn $billions for their country.
So yes, copy the good things from everyone even from Hindus, instead of bringing home Arab tribalism in the name of Islam.
yeah well we could also learn the biggest thing from india ? guess what that is? democracy. they have never had any military rule in their country, that is something they are proud of too. lets just not do some selective learning here
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so if pak foreign policy is dictated by americans, why did musharraf not establish diplomatic relationship with israel, participate in iraq war and allow american troops to operate in tribal areas? some arab countries like egypt and jordan have diplomatic relationship with israel while other arab countries like saudi arabia, qatar and bahrain have provided bases to american forces. pakistan is poorer than all the countries mentioned before and yet pak has been much less pro-american than lots of arab countries. unfortunately lots of pakistanis are cluless about intl affairs and constant repeating of simple slogans is a good indication of a simpleton mindset prevailing among large sections of awam.
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yeah well we could also learn the biggest thing from india ? guess what that is? democracy. they have never had any military rule in their country, that is something they are proud of too. lets just not do some selective learning here
We had that discussion in separate thread.
Indians follow British-Indian Political Party system (BrIPPS) that even Brits don't practice.
People who perform a myopic analysis of India, fail to see, that BrIPPS resulted in partition of India in 1947 and innumerable suffering for Panjabi Hindus, Sikhs, and Muslims.
The same BrIPPS resulted in separatist movements in almost all the border states of India where Indian military blasted away these movements.
BriPPS is repsonsible for military rule in Bangladesh as of now.
BrIPPS is responsible for Hindu-Bhuddist divide in Sri Lanka.
BriPPS was responsible for the sad events of 1971.
In summary BrIPPS has allowed ethnic, racial, and religious maglomaniacs to run their parties like jagirs and fiefdoms thus choking off the true political process.
You ever wonder how come 60 years of democracy has not allowed 1 billion Indians to find non-Gandhi chair of the biggest "non-democratic" party called Congress?
How come Lallu, Rabri, and Mayavati are "selected for life" leaders of their parties.
simply because in each case these parties are personal fiefdoms and jagirs of one family or the other.
5abi bro! That's why BrIPPS is terrible and not to be copied by anyone, unless you want to recommend it your enemies.
p.s. BriPPS would have destroyed India long time ago, if it was not for their Dharma mixed with strong Nationalism.
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So...we can't follow India's example in all aspects. Cool!
We have our own foreign Policy....Cool!
So....the next obvious question would be...
How can it be followed? I mean quite frankly, Democrats are gonna kick a&& and that wouldn't be good for Pakistan. Call it sweet vandetta or whatever you will, but there will be changes to the Bush policy because its the opposition to it that will bring the democrats to power.
Is Pakistan to keep pleasing the USA? Isn't it about time that Pakistan and its Govt. took a stand and just put it like it is instead of playing the 'i can do it, if u gimme a lil more to work with'.
Sure, i believe fighting extremism is in Pakistan's best interest, then why play to the tunes of Washington?
it's high-time for some self-evaluation and to round off the sharp edges on the Fauran policy that's dependant on dictation from those who have any influence. Iran is still surviving w/out listening to others...
I don't believe it's the lack of sources that causes Pakistan to lean extremely to the west, it's more the corruption and the lust for free money that calls for no accountability whatsoever.
What do you think needs to happen to make Fauran Policy, a proper Foreign Policy that is in favor of Pakistan. Just like all the other countries have their policies that look after self-interests.????????????
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...a proper Foreign Policy that is in favor of Pakistan. Just like all the other countries have their policies that look after self-interests.????????????
Countries always make policies in their self interest. Some times that interest is common with a big power, and some times it goes against the big power, and some times a country is so insignificant that the big powers don't really care.
If a smaller country shares self interest with a bigger power it will always look like dictation (remember why people called Blair a poodle).
If a smaller country's self interest bites a big power, the result is a lot of whooping (and in some case utter devastation of the smaller country).
Policies are never made in a vacuum. You pick and chose bro! you pick and chose.
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so if pak foreign policy is dictated by americans, why did musharraf not establish diplomatic relationship with israel, participate in iraq war and allow american troops to operate in tribal areas? some arab countries like egypt and jordan have diplomatic relationship with israel while other arab countries like saudi arabia, qatar and bahrain have provided bases to american forces. pakistan is poorer than all the countries mentioned before and yet pak has been much less pro-american than lots of arab countries. unfortunately lots of pakistanis are cluless about intl affairs and constant repeating of simple slogans is a good indication of a simpleton mindset prevailing among large sections of awam.
Excellent post. It is easy to blame everything on Musharaf and America and get away with it in the current environment.
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baqi sab copy kar lo, democracy haram! :nono: