The Final Solution

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An interesting read and documentary from an Indian exposing some of the facist qualities of the hindu extremism in india:

The Final Solution
It is very hard to believe that even today, half a century after Hitler, we still have people with with final solutions. Even if we swallow this bitter reality, one would expect that modern nazism is alive in some very very poor country that have no exposure. The sad fact is that its not. India, which never seems to get tired boasting its so called secular and most tolerant country status, is the host of the largest terrorist hindu group. Even sader part is the fact that the very indiviuals that have not only participated but also lead the act of violence, are their leaders. Former home minister of India, Mr. L. K. Advani, was a well documented participant in the destruction of Barbari Mosque. Bhartia Janta Party, which also have been the governing party of India in past, is also the open supporter of the hindu extremist factions.

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^ Radical elements exist in every society. However, the test of a society's "secular" or "inclusive" credentials is based on how much support such elements get on a wider level. Anyone who follows Indian politics knows that the Babri Masjid and Hindutva issues got the BJP very limited mileage. Most Indians (educated or un-educated) are not swayed by divisive politics based on religion.

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So is in Pakistan. Religious parties in Pakistan have not had any major voting bank.

We can go on back on forth with your kind of argument but one thing is for sure, Hindu extremism is growing fast in India and is largely unchecked.

When muslims are not able to buy property in Mumbai, christians get looted or raped without help from govt. agencies you know there is a serious problem in this so called secular country.

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^ I agree that Hindu extremism is growing in India, and will continue to grow if the government keeps up with its minority appeasement policies. Radical elements need an issue to latch on to and get popular support - so far they do not have much popular support, but if things continue the way they are the future could be very different.

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What are those 'minority appeasements' which lead to horrible crimes against minority?

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^ Its been discussed in another thread -

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/world-affairs/305993-minority-appeasement-india.html

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The bolded sentence is YOURS.

Try to be responsible and admit you wanted to justify the crimes in India against minorities.

Added: No wonder, India is progressively going towards hindu extremism . Thanks to people like you justifying these elements.

What are those appeasement policies which justify murder and rape of minorities in India? You tried to evade the question.

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^ Already answered in # 6. If you are interested, click the link for the minority appeasement thread.

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6 was your tactics to evade the question.

You are welcome to write answer in this thread.

The thread you mentioned does not give a direct answer to the question based on your statement and admittance of guilt.

You justified the crimes against so many civilians in India and now cannot back track.

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^ I am copying my response from the other thread.

A couple of examples of the government's minority appeasement policies come to mind...

One of the single biggest grouse is the existence of different personal civil laws for Hindus, Muslims, Christians, and Parsis in India. It has been pointed out how in the United States or other Western country, the law is common for all, regardless of race, creed, or faith. And has been rightly pointed out, in no major country in the world do such personal laws exist which means that before law, all men and women are not equal.

Tragically, the existence of the personal laws is seen as a source of identity today, and any move to abolish or amend them is bound to raise a hue and cry, mostly by the terribly bigoted so-called leaders of the Muslims, the Syed Shahabuddins and the Imam Bukharis. Yet, there is no doubt that India, like other liberal, secular societies, must have a uniform civil code that is secular, liberal, equal (especially between the sexes), promotes fraternity, and ensures justice for all. That is the foundation of a modern nation. It is not just a case of Muslim man being allowed four wives but the fact that a Muslim woman lacks the right, like her Hindu counterpart, to not share her husband with another woman. The law is more anti-Muslim woman than pro-Muslim man and the fact that many Islamic republics too do not practice it clearly shows that this particular law is outdated.

Then, there is always a hue and cry about the fact that the Government of India subsidies the Haj pilgrims, a practice no one has thought fit to abolish. The money spent on subsidizing the Haj is needed far more desperately to educate poor boys and girls, including many Muslims who, in the absence of schools, turn to madrasas.

Every state govt has policies geared towards appeasing minorities (not just Muslims), at the cost of majority sentiments or interests.

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Nope. I read that earlier. Above post only mentions about having different personal laws for christians, parsis, muslims and hindus.

I can dissect the above post more but do not want to give you more reasons to run away from responsibility of owning your own terrible sentence above. A pitiful gesture you made in post #4.

You might want to lay down exact appeasement policies and laws which could justify the heinous crimes in India against minority. Will you kindly do that?

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So the silence in response to my question confirms there are elements in India who think killing, raping and burning minorities is justified and will continue to progress since India has adopted so called 'minority appeasing' policies.

**If these minorities are given any rights by these policies, the hindu majority has the right to take law in to their hand and commit atrocities against the non-hindus.

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Seems like you were not able to comprehend my initial post before jumping to put words in my mouth, so I will make it easier for you -

1. I agree that Hindu extremism is growing in India, and will continue to grow if the government keeps up with its minority appeasement policies.
2. Radical elements need an issue to latch on to and get popular support - so far they do not have much popular support,
3. but if things continue the way they are the future could be very different.

I am not justifying "Hindu" extremism. As mentioned in my post, so far "Hindu" extremism does not have popular support, however if the present trends of minority appeasement continue the future could be very different.

Next time, read before you post.

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^ Repeating the statement has not change the fact that:
1- You made the statement.
2- You stated that there is a reason for these crimes.
3-The reason is Indian appeasing policies towards minorities.
4- You had to eat your words when asked the specific reason which YOU THOUGHT might be leading towards these hindu majority commiting crimes.

No one put words in your mouth. You had soft corner for hindu majority doing its deeds and could not even come up with the specific answer to a very clear question.

Next time have courage to explain what you write.

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^ What you choose to understand (read between the lines) is your prerogative :)

I will stand by what I said.

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Oh yes, I heard you loud and clear. Specially when you were not able to answer the question based on your own statement.:)

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^ I have already answered. You just want to interpret it your own way.

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^You answered to who? Not to me and not in this thread.
The answer to the question: What are those specific appeasing policies of India which make hindu majority committing crimes against minorities in India?

2We all need to know why you tried to defend these crimes. Thats all.

I bet you will run again by posting something other than the specific answer. Don't I know you too well by now?

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^ The original question was "what are those specific minority appeasing policies of India give rise to Hindu extremism". I have already answered that.

As usual, you are twisting the original question...

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You know very well you are playing word game.

You have not given specific and clear answer to what you wrote.

Or should I answer for you.

Couple of those specific minorities appeasing policies are

**letting muslims slaughter cow,

letting christians convert Indian citizens to christianity.
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According to your conclusion and statement above in post #4, until India stop these minoroty appeasing policies, hindu extremism will continue to progress in India. These are the latches on which they are hanging their issues on.

I knew it would be very hard for you to answer clearly. You just could not backtrack.

You redirected the post to another thread instead of answering or resorted to word game.