The end of an administration...

Wow.. this stuff just keeps getting deeper and deeper for these folks. I’ve tried to make clear that I was for an Iraq war, so long as it was done right. As of summer 2002 it was becoming obvious that it wouldn’t so I went to ripping every misstep publicly known. Now we find ourselves neck-deep in the African uranium saga. Add to that retaliatory strikes against the people who tried to check the far end of the balance (Ritter becoming a pornfreak, Blix being burned, Wilson’s wife losing a job, Tenet taking the heat, more in the works), with blatant incompetency. Now the 9/11 report is coming out and says definitively that there never was anything to warrant so much as a hypothetical Iraq-al Qaeda link. What was once the domain of rabid left-wingers is now becoming an argument of moderates and administration allies; namely Rumsfeld and Rice, perhaps others, need to go.

We are witnessing the end of an administration. Let’s hope that their self-destructive incompetence doesn’t further harm the people of Iraq and Afghanistan, and the rest of the World for that matter.

Supporting articles to follow…

9/11 report: No Iraq link to al-Qaida](White House 'delayed 9-11 report' - UPI.com)

Interesting insider info on the CIA-NSC war from today’s Nelson Report …

THE PLOT THICKENS: Several reporters, to their credit, questioned White House press secretary Scott McClellan today over which “senior administration officials” leaked to Robert Novak that Valerie Plame was an undercover CIA operative. (See here for more.) Below is the transcript of McClellan’s responses, which should raise a lot of questions.

It’s worth pausing here to clear up some terminology. “Senior administration officials,” as many of our readers know, is a term of art used by both the press and by the administration. When reporters cite “senior administration officials,” they generally mean the vice-president, the cabinet secretaries, those with cabinet-rank, the chief of staff, maybe the deputy chief of staff, and a couple of other really senior advisors. It’s a fairly limited pool. Likewise, the White House will sometimes offer briefings with top officials – sometimes even to groups of journalists – on the condition that they be identified only as “senior administration officials.” So it’s preposterous for McClellan to pretend that this is some kind of made-up, meaningless term. Hence that last question above. To continue:

Let’s translate, shall we? Note the use of passive voice and indeterminate references. He says “no one was given any authority.” Well, who would be the person to give such authority? McClellan doesn’t say. He does say that he, personally, has seen no evidence of any truth to “it.” What does that mean? Does it refer to the “authority”? Or does it refer to the fact of the leak, which is indisputable? Moving on:

Hah hah. It’s a good question, though: Shouldn’t it be someone’s job in the White House to find out who leaked this sensitive information to Novak?

Here’s a thought. To help McClellan out, the White House press corps should jointly put together a list of all the “senior administration officials” they’ve been briefed by in the last two years. It’s not going to be more than a dozen or so people. And Novak’s two people are on that list. How hard will it be for McClellan – assuming he wants to know what happened – to call up those 12 or 15 people and ask which one was the source of the leak?

Hard to find a decent plumber these days....

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america never had any case against iraq to go to war. only bush's arrogance and revenge forced him to wage war against iraq. link between iraq ans al-qaeda was never proved and all they did was we think. we believe, we know etc, which was and is nothing but a load of BS. but then coming from this administration, what can you expect except BS :~)

Nice complilation of articles and a good comment up top.

Just read the whole thing. That really is a great compilation of articles, meticulously collected.

Do you mind if i ask - do you get this from somewhere or do you do it yourself?

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"They take a fact that you could draw several different conclusions from, and in every case they draw the conclusion that supports the policy, without any particular evidence that would meet the normal bar that analytic tradecraft would require for you to make that conclusion."
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While reading the 9-11 report (second post), i received the impression for some reason that - even these revelations may not seem to influence the people of the US that much. If the congressional report definitively and publically arrives at the conclusion that there is NO link between Iraq and alQaeda, what sort of response will come from the American people? i doubt there is going to be much of an uproar. Generally speaking it's so engrained, in the US, in the collective psyche to demonize everything related to Iraq, that even with one damn lie after another being exposed, public confidence in Bush still remains relatively high.
i desperately hope i am wrong, though...and that these deceptions and official lies spell the end of this administration's power.

Spoon,

Well thought out thesis.

Perhaps this article from the washington Post will put it in a little more perspective:

A Handle On Scandal
‘Uranium From Africa’ Doesn’t Have the Smell of ‘I Am Not a Crook,’ but It Has at Least a Whiff of Flap

By Joel Achenbach
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, July 24, 2003; Page C01

People in the nation’s capital don’t use the word “scandal” lightly. Here, a scandal is an almost sacred thing. It has formal structures. It has institutionalized traditions. Corruption at the highest levels – its ritualized exposure and punishment amid a media frenzy that humbles the mighty and turns obscure government employees into cult figures – is a cherished part of our community heritage.

If certain criteria aren’t met, the thing in question is not a scandal, but merely a controversy, or a furor, or something even more trivial than that: a flap.

At present there is abundant disputation in Washington over the president’s use of incorrect information about Iraq in his State of the Union address. Building his case for war against Iraq, President Bush said, “The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.”

The White House has acknowledged that this was bad information and shouldn’t have been included in the January speech. Intelligence agencies had already dismissed the sketchy reports of Iraqi attempts to buy “yellowcake uranium ore” in Niger. The Central Intelligence Agency said this week that it had specifically warned White House staffers last October that the Niger allegation was unsupportable and should be removed from a presidential speech. Critics say the administration repeatedly abused intelligence data and exaggerated the Iraqi threat in the run-up to war.

A scandal?

Or just . . . flapdoodle?

Naturally there are partisan differences. William Kristol, editor of the conservative journal the Weekly Standard, has derided Democrats for scandalmongering, and ridiculed the news media for their “hyperbolic, rush-to-judgment, believe-the-worst” coverage of the issue. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has argued that the line in Bush’s speech was “technically correct.” National security adviser Condoleezza Rice said the president’s mistake was “about a single sentence, a single data point,” and was just “16 words.”

The “16 words” defense sent up a red flag for those on the other side of the political spectrum.

“A lame attempt to diminish it is always a good sign of a scandal,” says Paul Begala, co-host of CNN’s “Crossfire” and a former Clinton administration aide. The phrase “just 16 words” reminds him of a line about Watergate: “just a third-rate burglary.”

Begala says the climate is right for an authentic scandal.

“I see all of the storm clouds gathering. For one thing, it’s summer. Scandals do gather more in the summer. There’s nothing else to do.”

Liberal pundit Alan Colmes of Fox’s “Hannity & Colmes” isn’t quite ready to use the S-word.

“To call it a scandal would be premature, but clearly a full and open investigation would be warranted. I don’t believe the president necessarily lied, but someone certainly made him look bad. And I don’t understand why he doesn’t loudly proclaim that he wants to get to the bottom of this,” Colmes says.

One person familiar with scandal, former White House counsel John Dean – instrumental in sinking the presidency of his boss, Richard Nixon – points out that a scandal by definition requires not only improper behavior but also public offense. Action and reaction are equally essential.

“Watergate initially was not a scandal,” says Dean, now a full-time writer, when reached at his office in Beverly Hills. “When the break-in occurred” in June 1972, “other than The Post, everyone in the media ignored it. Try as he would, George McGovern couldn’t get anyone to pay attention to the problem. It didn’t become a scandal until the spring of '73, when the cover-up falls apart of its own weight, then everyone jumps on it and it becomes a scandal. And then it’s a scandal right through Ford’s pardon.”

Asked if the current issue is a scandal, Dean says, “It’s close.” He also thinks it could lead to impeachment.

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Still, the administration has managed to keep the tempest going by changing its story about how the problem came about. The White House initially blamed the CIA for the blunder, before conceding that the CIA had bird-dogged the bad information. An excellent technique for initiating a Washington scandal is to get on the wrong side of the Agency.

In a real scandal, the scandalmongers ask, “What did the president know, and when did he know it?” but that does not easily apply in this case, in part because the administration’s opponents cannot imagine the president as a mastermind of anything. Nor does the president hold himself out as a details person. On the finer points of who had what weapon when, the president doesn’t sweat the specifics, and his expression and body language conveys the message of Whatever . . .

The story does have one classically scandalous element: a dead body. British arms expert David Kelly, who had been a source for a BBC report that questioned the Blair government’s allegations about Iraqi weapons, was found dead last week, an apparent suicide – a tragedy that incited comparisons to the suicide of Vince Foster, the Clinton family friend and White House lawyer. Foster’s death, and the mysterious disappearance of files from his office, led to the appointment of a special prosecutor in the Whitewater case, and thenceforth scandal became institutionalized at the Clinton White House.

The critics of the administration would argue that the WMD case meets a crucial scandal requirement: the possibility of a pattern of abuse of power. They’d argue that the Sixteen Words were but a snippet of a vast catalogue of disinformation.

“If there’s an abuse of intelligence here, it’s certainly a scandal,” says Blumenthal, author of “The Clinton Wars.”

He sees signs of nefarious activity at multiple nodes of the government. The vice president is in the thick of it, behind the scenes, Blumenthal believes. Figures from the Iran-contra scandal have resurfaced with jobs in the Bush administration, he says.

“The character of this is more like Iran-contra than it’s like anything. It’s a serious question involving breaches of national security policy,” says Blumenthal.

Those who perceive a scandal will argue that the stakes are high, even if the details are sometimes a bit dry. William Rivers Pitt, managing editor of the online journal Truthout, says: “This doesn’t have sex, this doesn’t have the definition of ‘is,’ it doesn’t have stained dresses. What it’s got is an increasing number of dead American soldiers.”

The president’s defenders say there’s nothing here at all, except a desperate attempt to undermine the president and his war policy. One former Republican political appointee said yesterday, “It’s a nothingburger.”

Passions intensify as elections near.

“Some in the Democratic Party feel the need to discredit the president on the issue of the war in order to put him within reach politically in '04,” says Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.).

Scott McClellan, Bush’s new press secretary, charged last week that Democratic candidates are trying to exploit the situation, but added, “The bottom line is, America is safer, more secure and better prepared than we were on September 11, 2001.”

There are growing calls among Democrats for a full-blown bipartisan investigation, but the Republicans control Congress and have so far refused to hold hearings. What happens next may well depend on events in Iraq. Military success could push the story to the back pages, and then eventually exile it to a few redoubts on the Internet.

For an administration that has seen public support for its Iraq policy eroding, the deaths of Saddam Hussein’s sons this week offered an unexpected burst of good news. But the guerrilla war continues: Two more American soldiers died in separate attacks yesterday.

The worst-case scenario for the administration is that the story takes on a life of its own. Consider one scandal expert’s description of how that process works:

"The wildest accusations have been given banner headlines and ready credence as well. Rumor, gossip, innuendo, accounts from unnamed sources of what a prospective witness might testify to, have filled the morning newspapers and then are repeated on the evening newscasts day after day.

"Time and again, a familiar pattern repeated itself. A charge would be reported the first day as what it was – just an allegation. But it would then be referred back to the next day and thereafter as if it were true.

“The distinction between fact and speculation grew blurred. Eventually, all seeped into the public consciousness as a vague general impression of massive wrongdoing, implicating everybody, gaining credibility by its endless repetition.”

The expert was, naturally, Richard Nixon, speaking to America, and ready to put Watergate behind him once and for all.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37585-2003Jul23.html?nav=hptop_tb

Do American people realize that they were fooled twice within 18 months? I don't think so. American public usually believe in the sincerity/truthfullness of their administration unless proved completely wrong, very gullible I think. They are celebrating the death of two sons, the ones Iraqis feared very much. Beginning of war was because Iraq was a threat to the 'civilization', to the nations around the world.... after the war American public forgot all that and are happy because the regime which was only a threat to its own public and no other nation is gone which in one way is good but bad in many other ways.

OG, excellent article :k::k:
I agree with it on almost all points, as a description of the present. As the article points out, there remains a possibility for all or one of these things gaining speed in the future. The proper elements are there.. “John Dean… points out that a scandal by definition requires not only improper behavior but also public offense.” It is hard to argue sensibly that there was no improper behavior. What will determine if this becomes anything is if the public offense materializes.

My fear is that a token success, such as killing Uday and Qusay, will render inaudible the administration’s ineptitude on all other matters Iraq and allow it to fall to pieces.

Nadia, those three pieces above I initially found in weblogs (the links are there in the last two). I’ve been pulling together a lot of stuff for a project lately so I keep finding more. I’ll try to post some links later since most of it is relevant.

Agreed on your points also.. the public has been all too willing to buy whatever is flashed in front of them as long as it’s simple and fits their existing bias. Here’s something from another blog:

THE ADD PROBLEM](http://www.msnbc.com/news/752664.asp#030722)

Spoon,

As I have stated before, there are large pendulum swings in American politics, with the pendulum rarely visiting the middle for long.

After 9/11 Bush had abnormally high approval ratings for a very prolonged period. It will take a "flap" like this to move things back to a more normal range. He is simply falling off the pedestal, and it is now politics as usual in the Capital.

Unfortunately the Democratic candidates for president are pathetic, and the field is very divided. Bush's ability to raise money is extraordinary. At best the White House has a stubbed toe, but the current White House staff is very disciplined and savvy. This speed bump can be easily conquered. Blair is in much more trouble...

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Spoon,

Unfortunately the Democratic candidates for president are pathetic.
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Oh I disagree, but we can save this discussion for down the road.

Apparently this is the only thread where I mentioned Valerie Plame.. oh well, it’s a good thread, worth bringing back up.. more info on that finally. This is from a blog, the guy seems a bit too excited but he has the proper elements together (I’m too lazy to write my own review):

Whammo! NBC has a late report that the CIA has asked the Justice Department to investigate whether the White House broke federal law by exposing the identity of one of its undercover employees, Valerie Plame, to retaliate against her husband, Ambassador Joe Wilson.

Wilson of course is the former foreign service officer who made the trip to Niger to investigate those claims of uranium sales to Iraq.

The way this works is that the CIA does its own investigation to determine whether there is reason to believe laws were broken. But the CIA has no law enforcement powers itself. So it makes a referral to the Justice Department, which obviously does have law enforcement powers. If the folks at Justice concur in the Agency’s determination that there is reason to believe that laws were broken, they then task the FBI with mounting a formal criminal investigation. …

On it’s face, this news tonight almost certainly means that the CIA’s internal investigation concluded that laws were broken or that there was sufficient evidence of wrong-doing for a criminal investigation to be undertaken.

The decision on whether to task the FBI with investigating the White House is now in hands of John Ashcroft. Once that happens – if that happens – it’s not a matter of blogs and chat shows, but subpoenas and depositions.

Looks like the Plame deal is gonna get big…

The Wilson War Continues - TIME
A Vengeful White House? - CBS
Leak of CIA Name Being Investigated - Washington Post

From the WaPo article:

In other words, someone there is guilty, but they have a way around it…


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Hard to find a decent plumber these days....
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No doubt they would have unearthed a few WMD's in the underground drainage system of EyeRaq. :)

CIA leak source ‘may not be found’

Bush’s policies on Iraq are coming under closer scrutiny
President George Bush has said he does not know whether federal investigators will ever find who leaked the identity of a CIA agent.
“I have no idea whether we’ll find out who the leaker is. I’d like to. I want to know the truth,” Mr Bush told reporters in Washington.

He was speaking ahead of the White House’s self-imposed deadline for all its staff to hand over any relevant information to the justice department by 1700 (2100 GMT) on Tuesday, after claims that the leak came from the administration.

A similar order was been sent to the state and defence departments, as the inquiry widened into who revealed the name of the agent - the wife of a former US diplomat.

In a memo, President Bush’s legal adviser Alberto Gonzales urged staff to turn in records such as e-mails, computer records, notes and calendar entries.

Questions are being asked about the failure to find any Iraqi weapons

Employees also must sign a certification form saying they have turned in materials or do not have any items related to the investigation.

The allegations centre around the naming of Valerie Plame, wife of Joseph Wilson, the former US charge d’affaires in Baghdad.

Before the war in Iraq, Mr Wilson was sent by the CIA to the West African state of Niger in order to investigate claims that Iraq had tried to buy nuclear material there.

His report concluded that there was no evidence for the claims.

Despite this, Mr Bush referred to them in his State of the Union address in January.

In a subsequent article in the New York Times, Mr Wilson questioned why his report had been ignored.

The White House later admitted it had been a mistake to include the claim in the address.

A week after Mr Wilson’s article appeared, Valerie Plame was exposed by journalist Robert Novak, who said he based his report on two unidentified senior administration officials.

A report in the Washington Post newspaper has suggested that White House officials blew the cover of Mr Wilson’s wife in order to discredit him, by suggesting he had been given the Niger mission only at her urging.

well there you go. they can’t even find one person in their own administeration, let alone find WMD in iraq. :stuck_out_tongue: