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Did Musharraf want US to attack Afghanistan to get dollars and military technology from USA.
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I doubt Musharraf had that much power in the region to dictate the terms. He is the same guy who survived several attempts on his life during his tenure while he was the President and the COAS. All the talk of double game is another way of U.S to make Pakistan obey its orders and feel guilty enough to do things that they want us to. The same talk of double game is being played right now, the only difference is that now ISI and the Army are blamed for it rather one person, may be because the power has been divided between military and civilian government.
IS Musharraf the real double agent to get us into this mess?
Musharraf's rule was not the rule of an individual. Rather he ruled with complete approval from all core commanders of army.
So calling him a double agent is calling Pak army the double agent.
I doubt Musharraf had that much power in the region to dictate the terms. He is the same guy who survived several attempts on his life during his tenure while he was the President and the COAS. All the talk of double game is another way of U.S to make Pakistan obey its orders and feel guilty enough to do things that they want us to. The same talk of double game is being played right now, the only difference is that now ISI and the Army are blamed for it rather one person, may be because the power has been divided between military and civilian government.
You mean powerful people cant have attempts at their lives?
Icon. I cant see any evidence or some single hint about what you wana claim!!
if you have something plz.share with us.
and about current situation when OBL find and killed in A.Abad i have slight doubt that ISI/Army was keeping him as a trump card against usa.
For the records, I do not like Musharraf because he is another Saudi bitc*, not much different from Nawaz.
Army is certainly not democracy, but it is not a monarchy either. Musharraf couldn’t have done most of the things without the approval of the core commanders. Remember, he was in the air when he was dismissed by Nawaz. At that time it was the core commanders who brought him to power.
Similarly, Musharraf could not have taken an important foreign policy decisions on his own.
As far as I know, the interview you quoted was done by Ansar Abbasi, the Taliban apologist. I’m sure much of what he posted was actually false.
I came across another link of an Urdu newspaper which gave clarification from Shahid Aziz of this interview. In this clarification he actually defended Musharraf and did not say that his decisions were his alone.
Here is how he ends this clarification:
“The colour of the article, as it has appeared in the paper, is much different than what I had meant or even implied. Gen Musharraf has a great contribution in leading the nation through a critical juncture of our history, and we should thank him, at least, for buying us the additional time to make us strategically a far stronger nation than we were seven years ago. Those who are concerned with Pakistan’s security will realise this and the fact that he refused to be pushed beyond a certain point under continuous US pressure on Pakistan “to do more”.
He said that giving airbase to americans was opposed by all corps commanders but Musharraf said, he has already given the bases to them. He said Musharraf took decisions without consulting his commanders.
so why didnt the corps commanders take the base away after Mush left?
in related news of double games, apparently the military chose the narrative of impotent incompetence when offered a choice to be seen as partners in killing OBL.
He said that giving airbase to americans was opposed by all corps commanders but Musharraf said, he has already given the bases to them. He said Musharraf took decisions without consulting his commanders.
Then you better listen to it again. Because Shahid Aziz's clarification doesn't put any blame on Musharraf.
If Musharraf was "double agent", as per your conspiracy theory, then Shahid Azid wouldn't have praised Musharraf.
^SHahid Aziz has not retracted his statement that bases were given without seeking approvel of corps commander. His personal view of Mushy is not the point here.
^SHahid Aziz has not retracted his statement that bases were given without seeking approvel of corps commander. His personal view of Mushy is not the point here.
Being COAS, he did not have to convince everyone in every decision. Sometimes there come times when everyone does not agree. But as per Shahid Aziz, most of his decisions were approved by other commanders. This is why he praises Musharraf. And this is why neither you nor Najam Sethi could call Musharraf alone to be a double agent. You guys need to involve the army into it too.
He took most decisions with consensus of corps commanders, so calling him double agent is like calling Pak army the double agent.
If he were taking all decisions on his own then Shahid Aziz would not have praised him. He would not have used the word ‘we’ when talking about Pakistan’s decision to go against Taliban.
Musharraf’s decisions in this regard since 2001 reflected the consensus among the senior commanders of the Army and, thus the preferences of the military-dominated state.
Shahid Aziz certainly said that not "all" decisions were taken with approval of corps commanders and going against Taleban is one aspect of which i agree with provoking them to take on americans is another.
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