The death of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani?

[Pakistani_Prince]

@""Cashmere""

First of all, I don’t consider ahmadi’s as muslims, not even a sect of Islam. The very first kalima will answer why not. So my overall interest in this topic is zero.

The reason our Bobby Digital posted this was probably in defense of the belief where if you wrongfully claim to be “messenger”, “chosen one” or a “God given gift” to the world, Allah will disgrace you (thereby revealing the truth) even in your very last moment. So I get OP’s purpose of posting this, given that it’s a potential clue where if you were the “chosen one” you would’ve died in a better circumstance. I totally get it.

However, death is something we should all fear as living beings and more so, if our death occurs in a state of impurity. May Allah grant us all dignity, within and without life.

Liked this post of yours 100000 times but do not know why GS showing only 1 like..

[Cashmere]

[quote=““Pakistani Prince””]

Liked this post of yours 100000 times but do not know why GS showing only 1 like..
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Once is enough captain. Your enthusiasm!

[kchughtai]

[quote=““Pakistani Prince””]

Well nowhere in Quran ALLAH says that Jesus is dead… rather Quran says he was not crucified and Allah raised him up… Then “Sahi Hadees” completes the missing part of the story by stating that Jesus “Himself” will come back to earth near end times…Hence this claim of yours that Jesus passed away 2k years ago does not hold any ground…
Remember “Sahi Hadees” is as important as Quran.
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I don’t want to argue or debate this topic. this topic has been debated and discussed many a times. use google or if you care go to alislam.org to find what ahmadis believe.
in a nutshell, Ahmadis believe that there are close to 30 verses that directly or indirectly indicate that Jesus (as) has already passed away like rest of the prophets. and of course he didn’t die on cross but he died a natural death. He was raised unto Allah not ‘up’. show me up or sky in Quran?? and raising unto Allah cannot be physical since Allah is omnipresent. enough..

[kchughtai]

@""Cashmere""

First of all, I don’t consider ahmadi’s as muslims, not even a sect of Islam. The very first kalima will answer why not. So my overall interest in this topic is zero.

The reason our Bobby Digital posted this was probably in defense of the belief where if you wrongfully claim to be “messenger”, “chosen one” or a “God given gift” to the world, Allah will disgrace you (thereby revealing the truth) even in your very last moment. So I get OP’s purpose of posting this, given that it’s a potential clue where if you were the “chosen one” you would’ve died in a better circumstance. I totally get it.

However, death is something we should all fear as living beings and more so, if our death occurs in a state of impurity. May Allah grant us all dignity, within and without life.

Who cares what are your thought regarding Ahmadis. doesn’t matter. We believe in first kalima FYI, if your interest is zero then why are you here.
ok a task for you, please produce the verse that talks about how Allah treats one who attributes falsehood to Him.
As far as passing away of hazrat sahib is concerned, he passed away in his bed not in a filthy place. I am sure you would like to drag this topic but I don’t. I presented to you the example of jesus(as) whose death was also considered to be accursed and bitter even by his followers but that was not the case.

[kchughtai]

@""StoicHermit""

@kchughtai if it has the same translation as before, what is the need or use of bringing out the same translation with the label 'By Ahmediyyah community?? If ahmedis are going to read the exact same translation as muslims have been reading for years then seriously, why would they need to bring out a copy of quranic translation with the specific title ‘By Ahmediyyah community’? Doesn’t make sense, right?

bro, do you have comprehension issues. I said that Quranic text is the same which is word of Allah but translation could be different at certain points. There are hundreds of translations of Quran. take a look at thsi site https://www.islamawakened.com/. there are dozens of English translations. some vary widely. I don’t understand what are you upto.

[StoicHermit]

^^

and you ‘purposely-ignore-what-i-dont-like’ issue?

you seem to ignore my second question that only second coming of Jesus theory has the mention of Mahdi. You believe only in Mahdi coming part but not the Jesus coming part. Both of which, as per the theory, will occur the same time. And that time period is defined as just before the end of times. After fighting and killing off anti Christ & gog/magic, Jesus will lead the people of the world for 40 years before dying a natural death. I find flaws in that theory hence don’t believe in it. But if you do then why believe only in one part and ignore the second? ‘purposely-ignore-what-i-dont-like’ issue?

[Cashmere]

“Deleted post response to Kuchughtai”

Never Mind..

[Southie]

redvelvetu is making stuff up. Six pack Southie knows best.

[kchughtai]

@""StoicHermit""

^^

and you ‘purposely-ignore-what-i-dont-like’ issue?

you seem to ignore my second question that only second coming of Jesus theory has the mention of Mahdi. You believe only in Mahdi coming part but not the Jesus coming part. Both of which, as per the theory, will occur the same time. And that time period is defined as just before the end of times. After fighting and killing off anti Christ & gog/magic, Jesus will lead the people of the world for 40 years before dying a natural death. I find flaws in that theory hence don’t believe in it. But if you do then why believe only in one part and ignore the second? ‘purposely-ignore-what-i-dont-like’ issue?

I ignored it on purpose although I can answer most of your questions. your assertions are incorrect. please refer to my previous posts. don’t want to prolong this “discussion” as you might have seen the kind of responses this discussion may get. let us end this right here.

[bao_bihari]

Now that when i read these discussions, i feel like fittay maunh on what i used to debate and waste time upon.

To the original poster of the topic, this is not dawah and will make other go away from what you believe as haq. i have proofs that prove that mirza ghulam died in a make shift room(which was a washroom) due to diarrhoea but so what. We have plenty of dalail so no need to discuss these things.

i can still see some old IDs BTW

[Mostar95]

Continuation of the lies spread by Jews after stealing them from Zoroastrians!

[Monk]

@""Southie""

Even if it is true, what is the issue here? Why do Shias Sunnis or any others feel this is mockworthy? And if they did do this to mock, the joke is on them. It is irrelevant if this is true or not.

southie for president

[Mostar95]

Pagan Origins of Judaism

Pagan Origins of Judaism

[jawediqbal]

[quote=““bobby digital””]
Is it true that the prophet …??
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dont say him prophet.

[quote=““bobby digital””]
Is it true that the prophet and promised messiah of Ahmadis, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad qadiani, died while having a sh*t in the toilet??

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yes it is true, he died in toilet .

[lethal_kamikaze]

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