The cry of a Pakistani mother!

Pakistan Says Undecided on Troops for Iraq (what a shame)

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By Simon Cameron-Moore

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Pakistan has discussed sending troops to Iraq (news - web sites) as part of an Islamic force but has not made any decision, officials said Thursday, as outrage welled up in the country over the killing of two citizens held hostage in Iraq.

President Pervez Musharraf and Prime Minister Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain issued a joint statement condemning the execution of the two migrant workers employed by an Arab firm doing contract work for a U.S. company in Iraq.

“Those who have committed this crime have caused the greatest harm both to humanity and Islam,” the leaders said in the statement after Al-Jazeera television said it had received a videotape of the executions that was too gruesome to broadcast.

The killings came as Islamabad grappled with a Saudi proposal for Arab and Muslim nations other than Iraq’s immediate neighbors to provide troops to help secure the country.

Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites), in Saudi Arabia on a tour of the Middle East, telephoned Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Khursheed Kasuri to express sorrow over the deaths.

A foreign ministry statement said they also talked on Pakistan’s peace talks with India and the situation in Iraq.

Officials also confirmed Prime Minister Hussain discussed a possible joint Muslim force when he met Saudi leaders in Jeddah at the weekend.

“The Prime Minister was briefed about the idea of an Islamic force which had been earlier mooted in the conference of Iraq’s neighboring countries held in Cairo just prior to the visit,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Masood Khan told Reuters.

Speculation that Pakistan would commit troops mounted this month after the appointment of Pakistan’s former envoy to Washington, Ashraf Jehangir Qazi, as U.N. special envoy for Iraq.

Such a move would be hugely unpopular at home and observers say the killings of the hostages will make any decision more difficult for Musharraf, who already faces stiff opposition from hard-line Islamic groups for his role in supporting the U.S. war on terror.

Many have said the hostages may not have been killed if Islamabad had categorically said it would not send troops to Iraq.

Foreign Minister Khursheed Mehmood Kasuri told the National Assembly, parliament’s lower house, that a decision on sending troops to Iraq was still in the balance.

“We had repeatedly told the kidnappers that we have not yet taken a decision on sending troops to Iraq but despite that they have killed both,” Kasuri told parliament Thursday.

U.N. MANDATE

Pakistan has long resisted U.S. entreaties to send troops to help restore security in Iraq, saying it would only do so under a U.N. mandate and so long as other Muslim nations were involved and provided they were welcomed by the Iraqi government.

Thursday, Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi, speaking in Saudi Arabia where he met Secretary of State Colin Powell, said troops from Arab and other Islamic states would be welcome.

The conservative Islamist opposition believes Pakistan should stay out of Iraq.

“Pakistan’s overall foreign policy is very unpopular,” said Ameerul Azeem, secretary information of the Jamaat-e-Islami, a key component of the Islamic opposition alliance – the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA).

“The threat to Pakistanis working in Gulf and Middle East has increased after the government hinted at sending troops to Iraq,” he told Reuters.

**Relatives of the killed hostages also blamed the government. **

“Pervez Musharraf got my son killed,” sobbed the mother of Sajjad Naeem, one of the two dead men.

**“Had he announced that he would not send troops to Iraq, my son would not have been killed.” **.

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I don't like President sahib, but I don't think it's his fault. Why not blame the terrorists who beheaded the guys?

Well.... I posted what that person's mother thinks- who happens to be the closest person. We may think whatever we like, but that seems to be the voice of the nation.

So, Islamabad... who do you think should take the blame for Pakistanis' death?

  1. Amreeka
  2. Musharraf
  3. People who actually killed them

And no, there is no fourth option. Select the one you think is the most responsible.

Amreeka, who started this mess in the first place. And if there were a fourth choice, i would say Zionists, for fueling all problems in the middle east.

So, do the beheaders hold any responsibility or none?

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So, do the beheaders hold any responsibility or none?
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ofcourse they do...but won't we go to the root cause to sort out the problem.

haha .. and all root causes lead to Amreka & Zionist Yahudi.

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ofcourse they do...but won't we go to the root cause to sort out the problem.
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the root of this violence is an asshole with a knife in his hand.

The president has nothing to do with this, even though I believe its not a good idea for Pakistan to send its troop to Iraq, blaming musharraf for these two losses does not make sense.

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So, Islamabad... who do you think should take the blame for Pakistanis' death?

  1. Amreeka
  2. Musharraf
  3. People who actually killed them

And no, there is no fourth option. Select the one you think is the most responsible.
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I would still say 3.

killing this person will not change anything, its a loss yet another innocent life.
Muslims inspire other people not by killing but treating them well.

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the blame certainly lies on the killers..no doubt...

i heard that the deceased's mother said tho that if only musharraf had said that pakistan wont send her troops to iraq her son could have been saved...
:(

b/c these murderers, when they released the pakistani man last time told him to come back to pak and tell the govt not to send the army there

this whole situation is so sad :(

I don’t know where the mother got her information from, but the kidnappers had demanded that the Kuwaiti company the Pakistanis were working for pull out of Iraq (See below). Maybe because Pakistanis are lesser Muslims no one bothered and even our own newspapers or people for that matter did not ask for any accountibility from the employers.

Re: The cry of a Pakistani mother!

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**Pakistan Says Undecided on Troops for Iraq
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President Pervez Musharraf and Prime Minister Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain issued a joint statement condemning the execution of the two [unarmed] Pakistani civilians

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Time to put words into action. Pakistan should send 100,000 troops and take over Basra and the Southern desert. Pakistani civilians will work only for Pakistani companies and only in Pak-army controlled areas. No Pakistani mother should ever again cry because a Bedouin Harami went Kaput.

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Time to put words into action. Pakistan should send 100,000 troops and take over Basra and the Southern desert. Pakistani civilians will work only for Pakistani companies and only in Pak-army controlled areas. No Pakistani mother should ever again cry because a Bedouin Harami went Kaput.
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Why are you so fond of sending our sons to clean up America's mess? They created all the problems, so they better clean it up themselves. Why do we have to send our troops? Isn't it but rational to stay out of there! It is an occupied country.

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Why are you so fond of sending our sons ...
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Our sons are already there working for their livelihood. The least we can do is to make sure they are protected.

Those butchers just beheaded two unarmed Paks. I think you need to change your handle to "New Delhi". You would be ready to take revenge if you were truly from Islamabad.

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...Why do we have to send our troops? Isn't it but rational to stay out of there! ....
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We need to deploy 100,000 troop and put one soldier on every rooftop in Basra and the rest of the Southern Iraq. We ought to protect our citizens working over there.

It will also give a strong message to UAE, Kuwait and Saudi, that Pakistanis are not Miskeens, Rafeeks any more. They know how to protect their honor.

One more word from a Bedu, and Pak-army's boot will be on his A$$.

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Our sons are already there working for their livelihood. The least we can do is to make sure they are protected.

Those butchers just beheaded two unarmed Paks. I think you need to change your handle to "New Delhi". You would be ready to take revenge if you were truly from Islamabad.

We need to deploy 100,000 troop and put one soldier on every rooftop in Basra and the rest of the Southern Iraq. We ought to protect our citizens working over there.

It will also give a strong message to UAE, Kuwait and Saudi, that Pakistanis are not Miskeens, Rafeeks any more. They know how to protect their honor.

One more word from a Bedu, and Pak-army's boot will be on his A$$.
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Seems that you got really mistreated by some people. All people are not the same, there are good and bad people everywhere.

Anyway, cool down and think. We send our army , as you said 100,000 and we have India at our back.. to eat us alive.

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All people are not the same, there are good and bad people everywhere.

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This is the time to tell the bedus, how Pakistanis will take revenge. This is the time to show some spine. Two unarmed Pakistanis were murdered in cold blood. It is time to send some heavy boots to the Araab behinds.

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Anyway, cool down and think. We send our army , as you said 100,000 and we have India at our back.. to eat us alive.
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We have 700,000 standing army mr. New Delhi. Do not scare us of India. We can easily teach your Bha-rat-i brethren a lesson with remaining 600,000.

Moreover we have enough man power to gather another 200,000 new soldiers if need be.

No more Miskeens, and no mre Rafeeks. Only Siddiqs.

Dear Islamabad,

Issalam mun alei kum,

This is the work of men; I wish if the killer were ladies; they would have not staughtered them. So sad ,so painful. Poor mother and poor father.
God give them patience. Amin suma amin

Nice of you to think about them. Do you noticed they killed non Arabs only, as if non arabs are garbage. So I think, either we Pakistani army should go and find them out and take revenge or should not go. Leave it to GOD. He(A) would take care of all unjustices. Regards Sokoon

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Nice of you to think about them. Do you noticed they killed non Arabs only, as if non arabs are garbage.

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Yes Sister. They feel it is OK to behead Miskeens and Rafeeks.

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So I think, either we Pakistani army should go and find them out and take revenge .....

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More power to you Sokoon. It is time to send in 100,000 Pak-troops and find those butchers. Time to hang these terrorists on Baghdad trees. So that they can never think of Pakistanis as weak and infirm.

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...Leave it to GOD. He(A) would take care of all unjustices. Regards Sokoon
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God only helps those who help themselves. We have 700,000 strong army to teach these beheaders that no Pakistani mother will ever cry again. You Araabs cannot have fun killing our unarmed people. You dare touch our civilian and our army boots will be on your back and our bullets will be in your head.