I recently went out with some friends for dinner. We were deciding where to go as they only eat halal. I suggested an Indian restaurant which served halal but they refused saying it’s not “considered” halal because –
Apparently, although an animal is sacrificed in a halal way, the fact that a non-Muslim (such as a Hindu) handles the meat (by buying it for his restaurant to serve) thereafter makes it un-halal. Reason being, for example, a Hindu restaurant owner might pray everyday to his gods to bless his restaurant and food etc etc. Which then suddenly makes the truly halal meat un halal? In other words, the meat is now haram?
Some American, Asian and other types of cuisine available in the US are also halal. Does this mean if the owners are not Muslims themselves, only halal-eating Muslims cannot eat in such establishments?
Because if that is the case, then Muslims technically cannot even buy milk, cheese, etc etc from non-Muslim grocery stores because we do not know if the animal which these products came from were sacrificed, and if they were, was it in a halal way?
Where does restaurant owner buy meat? If that meat is Zabiha Halal, you can eat that.
If we take example of your friend… Then living in Muslim countries is Haram. They all run their business with interest bearing transactions… To my best knowledge is greater sin. @psyah may help you.
^^ yes, zabiha halal meat. in the US, many Indian restaurants will serve halal so as to not lose out on their Muslim clientele. One of my friends is an example, he is Hindu who owns his own restaurant and told me he only buys halal meat because his business would drop drastically if he stopped doing that..
But according to my friends (and they said they asked around by scholars) it "becomes" un-halal do the Hindus praying on it and whatnot
^^^ exactly my thoughts .. but also, what is up with these "Scholars" who are giving out such information????
some people (like my friends) I guess hang on to their every word.
So, for my reception, I had it at my friend's (the Hindu owner) restaurant ... later, my bro in law (who only eats halal) comes to me and goes, humme haraam ka khana khiladiya... I said, no, it was halal, and I didn't bother to ask questions cuz I did not want to get into an Islamic debate, but Im pretty sure he meant it wasnt halal probably cuz of the same reasons as the above mentioned post
if the animal was slaughtered by a Muslim, it's considered Halaal [zabeeHa]...period!
now, who cooks and who serves is irrelevant.
how do i know the meat is authentically zabeeHafied according to strict Islamic code? if a Muslim says it's Halaal then it's Halaal [NO questions asked]. if a non-Muslim says it's Halaal, it's NOT considered so until you verify the source of meat make sure it's Halaal.
a Muslim is responsible for his statement. if he lied, the gunaah [sin] will be on his shoulders and not yours.
sidney pai, i would say the OPs friends are far worse than trump when it comes to isolating muslims in a society that's already embraced their food values.
sidney pai, i would say the OPs friends are far worse than trump when it comes to isolating muslims in a society that's already embraced their food values.
Strange, aik hindu ko Islami halal aur haram k masail ka pta hai?
Aur is se barh kr ye k wo is baat ka khyal b rakhta hai?
Jb k Muslims jin ko samjh b hai tb b gadhe billian bander kutte pka pka kr khilate ja rhe hain!
kitni ajeeb bat hai !!
^ in india, in certain areas like Banda in Uttar Pradesh, sometimes the butchers are Hindus while the ones who zabaH karo animals are Muslims. hotaa kia hai k Musalmaan jaanwar zibaH kar detaa hai aur Hindu uskii boTiyaaN banaa banaa kar bechtaa hai...yeh hai ek misaal jo maiN ne di.
I also avoid eating meat at restaurants run by Hindus, which they claim is halal, but not for the same reason as your friends. I don't even eat at many restaurants claiming to be halal for the same reason--unless I've been able to investigate it or know that someone whom I trust has investigated it, I consider the meat doubtful despite the halal label and therefore will not consume it.
When I am confident about the source, I'll even buy my halal meat from Walmart or any local supermarket.
Strange, aik hindu ko Islami halal aur haram k masail ka pta hai?
Aur is se barh kr ye k wo is baat ka khyal b rakhta hai?
Jb k Muslims jin ko samjh b hai tb b gadhe billian bander kutte pka pka kr khilate ja rhe hain!
kitni ajeeb bat hai !!
Like I mentioned previously, the reason why they take care of the fact their meat is halal, is because if they do not buy halal meat, they will lose a big customer following of those who only eat halal.
^ I agree. In food business, reputation is everything. One could argue that Hindu owner could lie, just to have Muslim customers. But he doesn't need to lie. He could instead simply go and buy halal meat, as he could pass the extra cost to the customer, without cutting into his profit.
Yup .. and also, I have had Pakistani grocery stores bash out on other Pakistani grocery stores saying that their meat isn't halal !!!! They say that what they do is, instead of actually saying the kalma as they sacrifice and so forth, they have machines do the slaughtering while they have the kalma playing on cd. Basically saying it's a mechanical transaction rather than an Islamic one due to the fact a person isn't tendering to it.
Soooooo, if we have to take our fellow Muslims' word that what they are selling is, in fact, halal, (when it might not be) they why not a Hindu or someone else?
To my best knowledge is greater sin.