Re: The concept of being Stoned to Death
no..i am not saying the word **“haram”…**even in the earlier post i have said …that forbidden..as directly in quran..its not declared as haram…in ahadees…its indication of satnic voices…and breaking ofr musical instrument…but not used the word haram…as far my little knopwledge is concerned…
and yes..samah and qawali ..is a very complex issue…i have already said that many great scholars also prohibited it…even great sufia …prohibited it…like Charag Shah Dellvi…and i think ..he was student of Nizaam ud Din Aulia of delhi..which i think was very fond of samah and allowed it…
and ..yes..this thing is 100% right…Music gives taste to Nafs...no doubt…for example…have you ever heard the qawali “Sanuu data ki nagri pyari lagdi…”..with musical instruments…althougj..its about Syed Ali Hajveri…but its give passion…and enthusisim and taste to **Nafs…**although ..its total free from any vulgarity…
but…since..i do not say anything…as any person..having true knowledge about samah…qawali..its purpose etc can shed a bright light on it…as there are many grear sufia comes into this line…and i cannot dare to say even a single word against aulia of such a great status…
Exactly..i agree with you…Once Hazrat aisha(ra) was going into street of medina…and from one house…a sahabi was reciting Quran..his recitation was so beatiful that aisha stopped and listened to this recitation..and when came home ..said about this to Prophet(pbuh?)…and prophet(pbuh) then went and listened to himself…and then said to him…This ummah is blessed which produces such a beutiful voive of quran in it…
Simialrly..once Abdullah ibne Masood(ra) was going in street of Kufa…some youth were singing songs on **“barapt”…**i think…a musical instrument…and drinking…Abdullah ibne masood ..put his shawl on his head and said that …**what a beautiful voice…may this voice is used to recire Quran…**and went forward…
That young man..whose name was **Zadan…**asked who was there…people replied that…he was Abdulklah ibne Masood…the greatest sahabi and scholar of quran…what he was saying…people told ewhat abdullah ibne masood said…
On hearing..zadan..broke the** barapt**..and went to abdullah ibne masood…and started weeping…ibne masood embracced him …he then did tauba…and became one of the scholar of quran and hadees under ibne masood…
But…today..plz..tell me…how many quran recitation CDs and Naat CDs are listenesd as compared to Atif..Sonu Nigham…CDs…i think…99 to 1 % ratio..or even less…
plz..give some examples where music can be used with “POSITIVE” use…and in present day scenario…i mean…todays naats on Q TV are fully loaded with modern stereo and musical instruments…so ..if naats…the love of prophet(pbuh) negate the saying of prophet(pbuh) himself…what else we expect…from other things which can be done “positively” with music…
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now..here see …clear cut…negation of musical instruments…prophet(pbuh) mot mentiod…any specific instrument but talk generally…means …all musical instrument included in it…
So…in the light of above ahadees…can Naats on Q TV …specailly which** Brelvi school of Though** recites…can be allowed…
And plz..ponder over the word “PERMIT” in the above hadees…which clearly shows that ot is forbidden…but my ummah will allow it under** “some Cover”**…like for reciting naats…and qawalis…that we are doing in the love of prophet(pbuh) and aulia…so "PERMISSION: will be done…however ..it would not be allowed…
Prophet(pbuh) also said in the above mention hadees that..my ummah will permit…also…
***Zina…in the name of **
1.Mutah…(direact zina)
2.Watching(zinna of eyes in name of admiring the eauty of nature as women are created by nature)
3.Hearing(music..as by cover of nusic washes away soul dust and food of rooh)
4.thinking(lustful thoughts asits dosent harm if actually zina is not done…)
5.Talking(lustful talking…in the name of literature)
And above all mentiod things are stated in a very fanous hadees that is…
A man do zina from eyes..ears…mind..lehs…and etc ..by watching..walking..hearing…and thinking..when all these zina criteria have been done…then private parts only actually do that or negate that…but all above mentios criteria have been fulfilled…
Again from above hadees…
Drinking will be permitted in the name of…
1.medication(as its too cold ..so little wine is allowed…)
2.Sharbat-e-Muffarah (a sharbat which gives happiness)
3.**Arq-e-Shifa **(As quran says..it also has benifit..so its allow…)
4.barley water which “ALSO” has nasha in it…not all which we usually drink…
Silk will be permitted in the name of…
1.Rau Silk suits…(as its look nice to wear thse suits)
2.nylon having much ratio of silk so its prominent that you are weraing silk…
So…our prophet(pbuh) altready indicated that my ummah will find "lOOP HOLES "…to twist the meanings of ayats…ahadsees ..to follow thier desires…and wishes…