The concept of being Stoned to Death

Re: The concept of being Stoned to Death

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Agreed.

Partially agreed. Sometimes an Ijmah is required to understand ahadith.

This is where I disagree. The type of music is not specified in the ahadith and its characteristics are understood from other principles in the Quran and Sunnah.

Anything which lends itself to waste of time or a bad cause is what we should refrain from. You can’t simply make it haram. For example, if your spending time learning a musical instrument then that is to no avail in the cause of Allah SWT. You would simply be wasting your time when it could have been spent better in repentance or rememberance of Allah SWT or even earning a living through halal means.

The issue of music being forbidden or disliked depends on the purpose of the music. If your music is being accompanied with belly dancers or girls gone wild type of situations then clearly it is serving as a means to propagate Fawahish and that is forbidden. Take the hadith for example when the Prophet SAW let people have music on the occasion of the Eid, if it were haram just because it was music then can we imagine the Prophet SAW indulging in something haram, never. The purpose of the music was to celebrate Eid, its our festival in which we celebrate and be thankful. The music itself on such an occasion had not purpose of its own other than adding a little enjoyment to the occasion or to promote the occasion of Eid.

Now if you go to a resturant where people often date and you have very romantic atmosphere, soothing music, then ofcourse the purpose of the music there is to enhance the atmosphere of dating, the music being played is accompanied with a purpose. To me that is forbidden because it is being used to promote something that is forbidden.

The examples of Qawwali etc, is not less tainted either. Is that not a waste of time? What is it they achieve out of it and yet they are performing either to entertain people of make money of our their show. To me this is more disliked or forbidden as compared to playing music on the occasion of an Eid. Wouldn’t these people who are singing Qawwali and behaving as majnoons or as if they are in a Nasheeli state while singing be better off offering a couple of rakah Nafl or doing charity work or repenting than doing this. There is no benefit to it.

Daff is one of the few instruments which were existing during the Prophet SAW era. Let me contrast the Daff with other woodwind instruments. Daff requires negligible skill to play, just beat on the thing whereas other complicated instrument such as wind instruments require considerable skills or devoted time to play and sound good as well. Whats the basic premise you see here, one instrument leads to a waste of time learning it whereas the other does not. I am sure even Daffs or drums accompany Mujaras, Belly dances or any of the vulgar dances or music that was played in the Arabian culture 1400 years ago. Then why wasn’t the Daf made haram accordingly.

Now if you are getting addicted to a Daf even that would be forbidden because of your un-necessary attachment to it.

Just making instrument harams or halal will not change the way people live or think. You need to explain what it is you seek by your action. What is it you are trying to prevent.

Your abilities to perform certain things are not haram but the choices you make with them where the premise of halal and haram means anything.