The Bomb: 'Saudi secretly working with Pak experts'

The Bomb: ‘Saudi secretly working with Pak experts’

BERLIN, MARCH 29 : Saudi Arabia is working secretly on a nuclear programme, with help from Pakistani experts, the German magazine Cicero reports in its latest edition, citing western security sources.

It says that during the Haj pilgrimages to Mecca in 2003 through 2005, Pakistani scientists posed as pilgrims to come to Saudi Arabia in aircraft laid on by the oil-rich kingdom.

Between October 2004 and January 2005, some of them took the opportunity to “disappear” from their hotel rooms, sometimes for up to three weeks, it quoted German security expert Udo Ulfkotte as saying.

According to western security services, the magazine added, Saudi scientists have been working since the mid-1990s in Pakistan, a nuclear power since 1998 thanks to the work of the now-disgraced Pakistani scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan.

Cicero, which will appear on newsstands tomorrow, also quoted a US military analyst, John Pike, as saying that Saudi bar codes can be found on half of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons “because it is Saudi Arabia which ultimately co-financed the Pakistani atomic nuclear programme”.

The magazine also said satellite images prove that Saudi Arabia has set up in al-Sulaiyil, South of Riyadh, a secret underground city and dozens of underground silos for missiles.

According to some western security services, long-range Ghauri-type missiles of Pakistani-origin are housed inside the silos.

http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=65139

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Don't believe this story. Look who the source is...

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Cowcola, Here is another one for you. Pakistan is taking over the middle east soon...they have been working secretly with Israel to accomplish this goal.

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Coagula,,, Looking at some or your earlier threads you don't look like some body from this side of the fence... Though my apologies if you got abused in people's eagerness to abuse us......... :-)

Yes, dump this just because of the source, as we should dump anything written in Dawn or any other Pakistani newspaper.
By the way Indian Experess is quoting a story that's going to get published in a German Magzine. So may be it has more truth....... :-)

My take, such stories keep appearing all over the place, So may be just pass....... let CIA investigate and come with more concerte answers..... :-)

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Rahul, where in the article does it cite any "credible" source for the information. You think that CIA/NSA does not know about those silos and "secret city" if it exists? It it does, they know about it. So what exactly is the point of discussing this without credible evidence?

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  1. Saudis building anything let alone "The Bomb" is a big news to me. I guess this Janoo German needs to visit Saudi to see the whole situation.

  2. Saudi Barcodes on Pakistani weapons: If in doubt see #1 above.

  3. These Bharatis of Hindia-Express fail to grasp just one thing. The whole Saudi Arabia was built and now run under the nose of American and British companies. You may erect a fr!gg!n tent housing few goats and it may not register with the Americans. However building a "huge" under ground city with Gori missiles is a mighty stretch even by the Arab standards.

So again see #1 if in doubt.

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Yes, Kaleem.. good start we agree on this. I also don't see any reason to discuss this... " I said let is pass" in my last post.....
Good start for us...... :-)

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let them take over baluchistan and wana tribal region first

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I will go ahead and add let alone bomb saudi or for that matter whole arab world should pat their backs if they successfully make a pin by themselves:-)

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another propaganda against pakistan!!
nice work expressindia!! you're on rite track!!

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:smiley:

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http://www.forbes.com/finance/feeds/afx/2006/03/28/afx2629000.html

Saudia Arabia working on secret nuclear program with Pakistan help - report
03.28.2006, 08:47 PM

BERLIN (AFX) - Saudi Arabia is working secretly on a nuclear program, with help from Pakistani experts, the German magazine Cicero reported in its latest edition, citing Western security sources.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/30/120408.shtml

It says that during the Haj pilgrimages to Mecca in 2003 through 2005, Pakistani scientists posed as pilgrims to come to Saudi Arabia.

Between October 2004 and January 2005, some of them slipped off from pilgrimages, sometimes for up to three weeks, the report quoted German security expert Udo Ulfkotte as saying.

According to Western security services, the magazine added, Saudi scientists have been working since the mid-1990s in Pakistan, a nuclear power since 1998.

Cicero, which will appear on newstands tomorrow, also quoted a US military analyst, John Pike, as saying that Saudi bar codes can be found on half of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons ‘because it is Saudi Arabia which ultimately co-financed the Pakistani atomic nuclear program.’

The magazine also said satellite images indicate that Saudi Arabia has set up a program in Al-Sulaiyil, south of Riyadh, a secret underground city and dozens of underground silos for missiles.

According to some Western security services, long-range Ghauri-type missiles of Pakistani-origin are housed inside the silos.

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Nothing new! this was the same info at the top of this thread.

Be creative! be creative oh baboo!

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The saudis have only one threat and thats from Israel and in the given international scenario ,a strike from Israel is a distant possibility.Saudis can not hide any weapon from the eyes of the united states since the U.S has got its active presence and reconnaissance in this area.

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BTW till A Q khan's nuclear industry came into open pakistanis were claimign that to be propaganda too.. so u never know this too may be a reality just ike that episode

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Not saying that its true, but whats the big deal even if it is? Saudis want a nuke and can pay for it, well Isreal has nukes, Iran will soon, so does North Korea, why should'nt Saudis get it?

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Very true..saudis bulding anything in their nation is a news. but don't forget what article is saying. Pakistanis are helping them to acquire the nukes. i say 'acquire' not develope. because all of us know even the paki nukes, however crude it is, is also not developed inhouse but stolen from china. they are just passing it furthre to saudis.

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now this is different topic and it unveils why should any country sign NPT in first place and once u have signed u open urself to this question.... pakistan is fine noone can legal fault them but yes they are openign themselves for american wrath and god forbid if they decide to use sanctionit won't take much time for bankrupcy to set in and may I add here americans have evry right to choose who to do business with they are sovereign nation..

otoh saudis are screwed they are signatory of NPT and so open to the scrutiny and consequencesunder it

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Exactly.

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i wont be suprised. saudis are thought of very highly. pakistanis are very respectful to saudi even though hundreds of thousands of pakistani workers are treated very badly. at the same time suadi has donated alot of money to pakistan too.

im not complainign about this but it seems pakistan is heavily involved with potentially unstable states. at the moment saudi is stable but one by one most muslim governments are going to fall.

even though alot of posters here hate saudi they forget saudi contributes alot to pakistan.

its ok for america to share nucclear with israel so why cant pakistan help saudi?