The 'black hole' of Chechnya

And the war goes on..please remember the civilise World is trying to teach the Chechens freedom

The Chechen civil war is corrupting the Russian state, writes Shohdy Naguib from Moscow

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2003/642/in6.htm
The nine-year Chechen conflict can be described as the Russian “black hole” which is sucking up funds, lives and hopes for a better life, while discharging at the same dazzling rate xenophobia, radicalisation of politics, corruption and crime. In other words, if transparency can be regarded as the opposite of corruption, then this conflict is tantamount to a powerful smoke generator that is suffocating the nascent Russian democracy. Placing this independence war within the framework of the global “war on terror” was a lucky strike for the Russian president and the likely doom for the 200 years of struggle for self-determination by this proud nation.

The alleged link between Chechnya’s rebels and Al-Qa’eda raises the question of whether that link exists despite, or because of, Russia’s anti-terrorist operation in Chechnya. And it certainly cannot justify the horrendous scale of atrocities that has befallen its people.

According to the International Herald Tribune, the “statistics on murders and so-called disappearances show that Chechnya is one of the most dangerous places on earth,” outstripping Colombia by a wide margin, which leaves no doubt as to the total failure of the federal government to contain the situation. Staging a referendum on the future of the republic and the adoption of a new constitution against such a troubled background could not have been more inappropriate. The 96 per cent of votes which were cast “in favour of peace and against the separation” are viewed by most international observers as irrelevant and as having nothing to do with durable peace in the region.

Indeed, all the assurances of stability in Chechnya issued by the Kremlin-backed administration of Ahmad Kadyrov are regularly truncated with news of stinging attacks by the rebels. The suicide attacks on the tightly secured administration buildings wipe out all such claims, while the incessant reports of atrocities committed in the course of “cleansing operations” carried out by the federal forces and Kadyrov’s militia may well explain why entire families have chosen to become shohada (martyrs).

The frequent use of suicide bombers, particularly women, by the Chechen separatists further validates the Kremlin’s claims of the “foreign hand” which dares to meddle in Russia’s internal affairs. Prosecutor-General Vladimir Ustinov, reporting to President Vladimir Putin, recently said, “This was brought to us from abroad. There were previously no suicide attackers in the Chechen conflict.” The wave of terror attacks is also spilling over from Chechnya to the neighbouring regions of southern Russia.

On Thursday 5 June a female bomber dressed in the white garb associated with medical personnel, blew herself up in front of a bus carrying military and civilian personnel to a nearby airfield not far from the city of Mozdok in the North Ossetia region, killing herself and at least 16 others.

Conventional guerrilla warfare also seems to be gaining momentum after a period of relative calm. On the following Friday an intensive fight broke out in the republic’s third largest city of Argun, which lasted for many hours and produced contradictory reports as to the number of casualties on both sides. Certain, though, is the fact that Kadyrov’s deputy, Colonel Aud Yusupov, lost his life in an ambush in the city centre. Fighting, therefore, is no longer confined to the southern mountainous regions, as has been claimed.

The Western guests who recently attended the international summit in St Petersburg during its splendid tercentenary anniversary did not say a single word to their host regarding the situation in the war-torn North Caucasus. Nobody wanted to spoil the party.

The miserable human rights record in Chechnya will, sooner or later, surface at the highest diplomatic level. The upcoming trial of Ahmad Zakaev – official envoy of Chechen President-elect Aslan Maskhadov – in London will probably trigger this. He is currently facing extradition in England and his defence is based upon accusations aimed at Russia regarding massive human rights violations in Chechnya. In an interview with Radio Liberty he said, “For three or four years now, our leadership has been seeking the creation of an international committee to investigate these horrible crimes, followed by an international tribunal to bring the war criminals to trial.” Such an approach may well turn the tables on the Kremlin.

Looking at the situation from the other side of the Atlantic, one can see that the hard line adopted by President Putin ever since he assumed office at the beginning of the second Chechen campaign has been consistent enough to prove his intention of keeping Chechnya within the Russian Federation. The recent developments demonstrate to the outside world that the federal government is taking all necessary steps to formally validate the legitimacy of its non-compromising policy towards the Chechen separatists.

Whatever the real reasons behind the tacit acceptance by the Western powers of the arm-twisting democracy practiced by their Russian ally, the options available to them are few. A plain disregard for the results of the Constitutional Referendum in Chechnya would be inappropriate, and at the same time the label of “international terrorism” has stuck too firmly to Aslan Maskhadov, regardless of his attempts to disassociate himself from it. The exiled Chechen president is still waiting in hiding for the Russians to call him for the peace talks, but it seems that his time has run out. Apart from the brave-hearted Vanessa Redgrave, who is courting his envoy in London, no one seems to care too much about his legitimacy.

Seeking to legitimise Russia’s counter-separatist efforts in Chechnya, President Putin has proposed a new legislation to grant partial amnesty to participants in the Chechen conflict. The bill went through the State Duma (Russia’s lower house of parliament) in its third and final reading and has been supported by an overwhelming majority.

The amnesty, which will be in effect from Saturday, applies to both Chechen rebels who are willing to lay down their weapons by 1 September, 2003, and those federal army troops who have committed minor crimes since the start of hostilities on 12 December, 1993. The amnesty does not apply to those guilty of committing murder, rape, armed robbery, kidnapping or other serious crimes, nor does it cover foreigners who fought with the rebels.

The Russian president’s representative in the State Duma, Alexandre Kotenkov, has told reporters that the amnesty will affect some 300 federal army soldiers – 90 per cent of all those who have been already sentenced – as well as about 1000 rebel fighters who are now in custody. He has underlined the importance of this “act of humanism aimed at creating further conditions for the eventual return of peace to the Chechen republic”.

Meanwhile, human rights watch-dogs have cried foul at a possible attempt to cover up abuses by federal soldiers, but there are certainly no indications regarding the validity of their concerns within the body of the new law. At time of going to print, there were reports that more than 30 fighters have already given up their arms. They have been duly registered and temporarily released pending further investigation.

There is a general consensus in Russia that these recent efforts at legitimisation are primarily aimed at pacifying Western peers, who are very uneasy about their strategic partner’s undemocratic practices. There is a great deal of apathy amongst Russians with regard to the possibility of positive change. The government’s chaotic policy of half-measures is even seen as perpetuating the conflict on a lower level. As the general socio-political situation deteriorates there is a high risk of it flaring with a renewed force. Such is the opinion of Dmitri Rodin, the chief editor of a popular web-zine www.zvezda.ru, who laments the numerous opportunities blocked and ignored by the presidential aids. Foremost of these in his opinion is the project of the Eurasian Federalism, a concept promoted by a prominent Russian thinker Alexandre Dugin. This original concept is aimed at giving a political status to an ethnos, an idea that indeed has a great potential for the future of the vast Russian domain. But his arguments have fallen on deaf ears. Russia is still being ruled by the adherents of the western liberal democracy rather than an authentic doctrine that might better suit it’s specific.

It is NOT certain yet who is behind this.

Moscow concert blasts kill 16, BBC, 5 July 2003

Two female suicide bombers have blown themselves up at a rock festival just outside Moscow, killing at least 16 people and injuring more than 40.

Interior Minister Boris Gryzlov blamed the attacks on Chechen separatists, saying a Chechen passport had been found on one of the bombers.

But a Chechen spokesman, Salambek Maigov, told a Russian radio station that the leadership of his homeland was not involved.

It is not certain who is behind this.

There is a design.

Ours is a very peaceful gentry.

Our religion is for peace.

This, we are going to listen in comming days. Totally old story.

Present day Chechenya was not a Chechen land till 1870. It was given to Chechens for starting a civilized life.
Sall we say that Russians did a mistake in offering them Grozny for a civilized and cultured life in 19th century?

Fantoosh, So much xenophobia and prejudice in your heart - against Islam and Muslims? Sahat kai liyay theek nahiN hota itna sara tension or stress. Take a chill pill, read the Quran (if you haven't already), look beyond the CNN stereotypes, and then please try to think independently of everything your culture/environment/prejudices/stereotypes have taught you.

Other than that, i really am not wasting my time trying to prove something to you that you have already decided against. You obviously only want to hear and read exclusively that which you agree with.

Interesting, I am just telling what is going on repeatedly. Same histeria takes place in Islamic media after every terror attack and killings.

Is it not an an indirect support to terrorism.

Instead of opposing and condemning such a terror act, they find excuses.
Let us not bring in Quran and religion! Because this terrorist (a lady, 20 of age) was also inspired by the same relgious texts.

I feel for the deads, and they go for finding some designs, even feel no shame doing so.

I see somebody who is very prejudice forgot to mention the russian doctrine of systematic rapes of checnya and the indiscriminate mopping up operations which translate in slaughter of civillians.

The russians cannot handle the mujahid of Chechnyna, they bombard them with everything under the sun.

Even after Russia a nation of 150 million + throws everything at Chechnya population numbering maybe 0.7 million they still come back to haunt them shows you that even with the odds against you the belief of islam makes you defend your honour and your people even when everything around you appears dark. :nono4:

about media wat exacty is he islamic media :hehe: More like the biased western media forget and close eyes to what happening in chechnya. In UK the Queen and BLair the famous Liar last week welcome Putin the butcher like he a peace activist or something. :frusty2:

Brutal farce in the Caucasus
As one Chechen, Timur, said: “We have been vilified as thieves and bandits by the Tsarist regime, the Soviets and now by their ‘democratic successors’. Where do we have left to turn?”
Moscow’s new plan for Chechnya, tacitly backed by the west, ignores the Chechens who continue to suffer ethnic cleansing, writes Nick Paton Walsh

Thursday July 3, 2003

This week Moscow at last did what the west had been begging it to, and began negotiating on Chechnya. Yet instead of following the path advocated by Washington for years - of talking to the separatists, led by the republic’s last elected president, Aslan Maskhadov - the Kremlin decided to hold the discussions all by itself, with itself. It now only talks to Chechens it has installed in power or who unconditionally support Russia’s brutal military rule of the republic.
To recap, decades of war have left tens of thousands dead, and the entire region destabilised. In March, the Kremlin imposed a referendum of dubious democratic value on the Chechen people, under martial law. Despite streets appearing empty to observers, a staggering 96% turnout led to a result of over 80% in favour of Moscow’s plan - presidential and parliamentary elections in October. In exchange, Chechnya gets nominal independence from Moscow.

It is, for the Kremlin, the perfect solution. The real separatists are rendered obsolete by a devolution process that purposefully excludes them; an amnesty for rebels guilty of less serious offences brands all remaining separatist fighters as diehard thugs; the Kremlin’s liberal western critics cannot accuse it of failing to negotiate or budge on the separatist issue; Moscow keeps total control over the region; and the “problem” appears to go away.

This week the games got under way. Alexander Voloshin, the silvery and reserved chief of staff for the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, chaired a round table meeting on June 30 in which Moscow’s choice Chechens argued for as much autonomy for the republic as possible.

Akhmad Kadyrov, the current head of the Chechen administration, leaked his ideas to the Russian and Chechen media a week before the meeting. A foreign office, a programme of oil and gas export taxes used to rebuild the republic’s infrastructure, and a national bank, are all on his cards, and would yield Chechnya - and hence Mr Kadyrov, who is widely expected to win in October - a level of autonomy that some observers have already suggested may not be constitutional.

But the entire process reeks of a sham. Moscow only talks to Mr Kadyrov as he is their man; Mr Kadyrov only talks tough because he knows the Kremlin realises it does not mean much, if anything. Whatever amount of autonomy he gets will be purely superficial as Moscow will always hold his reins.

Yet as this almost laughable “peace process” continues, so do the suicide bombings and the state of almost all-out war between Russian artillery and airpower, and Chechen rebels.

At the same time, Moscow continues its barrage of misinformation.

“It’s more of a virtual war than a real one,” said Viktor Kazantsev, Mr Putin’s envoy to southern Russia. “The war is practically over,” he added, without a shred of irony.

The disparity between what is happening around Moscow’s negotiating tables and the bloody mess of life on the ground in Chechnya becomes all the more surreal. Extremists on both sides threaten to drag out the war and further distance the answer to the question: how can there be real peace?

Until recently, continued pressure from Washington to push Moscow towards the negotiating table with Mr Maskhadov seemed the answer. Mr Putin and Mr Maskhadov never had to sit face to face and hammer out the details; the Kremlin only had to recognise that he had a constituency in Chechnya that needed addressing.

The policy has become increasingly confused as the Bush administration sought to twist Mr Putin’s arm over Iraq by hyping up talk of their mutual war on terror. In May, the US state department made comments that were as baffling as they were alarming. The department’s deputy spokesman, Philip Reeker, wooed a Russia still reeling from two suicide bombings in 48 hours in the republic with the remarks that such terrorism was intended to disrupt the ongoing “political process”.

Delivered moments before a meeting between the US secretary of state, Colin Powell, and Mr Putin, the statements were the first recognition of what is happening right now in Chechnya as a “political process”. In October 2001, the US national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, was urging negotiations with Mr Maskhadov, and welcoming Kremlin moves in that direction. Today, post-Moscow theatre siege, post-Iraq, the US can refer to the imposition of martial law, followed by “democratic elections” (as if the two were compatible), and then the installation of a new president.

A senior US diplomat rightly noted that the Kremlin had “drawn a red line under” the idea of talks with Mr Maskhadov. Even the US has “gone off” their former preferred partner for Moscow’s peace talks on Chechnya. “Our view of Maskhadov has increasingly soured,” said the diplomat.

The persistent criticism levelled by European states against the Russian brutality in the region provides a necessary backdrop of condemnation, but brings little to the table for negotiations. The Kremlin simply mocks their talk of war crimes trials, however eligible the ongoing slaughter of Chechen men and even peaceful citizens in neighbouring Ingushetia, might be to such a reckoning.

Yet at St Petersburg’s May summit between Russia and the EU, the topic of Chechnya was eerily off the table. Downing Street has even become embarrassingly mawkish in its courtship of Mr Putin. Days before the Kremlin head was due in London, the prime minister, Tony Blair, told parliament, shamelessly, that some of the fighters causing the coalition the most trouble in Iraq were in fact trained in Chechnya.

Mr Blair has since repeatedly ignored requests for a shred of evidence for his claims.

The suggestion is as improbable as it is cynical. The idea that hardened Islamic extremists bothered to sneak into Chechnya to train, and then escape both its Russian border guards, and cross through Azerbaijan, Iran and then through US controls into Iraq, is highly unlikely. A more pertinent cause for Islamic extremists persists in the republic itself.

Yet the vision it conjured - of roaming freelance separatist loons pouring out of the troubled region - has to be music to the ears of Mr Putin, a former KGB spy. The Kremlin has shrewdly emphasised the links between Chechen separatists and the same Gulf-based sheikhs who sponsor al-Qaida. Whatever we may think about the veracity of these claims, which stand up to initial scrutiny, they have managed to tar the entire Chechen separatist cause as “Islamic extremism”, and hence the Chechen people as radicals bent on imposing Sharia law.

Yet such an image is as far from the reality on the ground as Mr Blair’s assertions on Iraq seem to be. Chechens remain a people for whom nobody wishes to fight; their slow brutal demise threatening to be one of the most blatantly ignored acts of ethnic cleansing of the last 20 years.

As one Chechen, Timur, said: “We have been vilified as thieves and bandits by the Tsarist regime, the Soviets and now by their ‘democratic successors’. Where do we have left to turn?”

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they still come back to haunt them shows you that even with the odds against you the belief of islam makes you defend your honour and your people even when everything around you appears dark.

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You must be so proud. Nothing defends your honor quite like blowing up kids at rock concerts.

Hi AK47,

I want to reveal you some secrete. Many Arab nationals, some black Muslims and some Pak citizens have joined Chechen rebels. They have done so for the sake of some holy war, jihad, you know that. Some absconders of Russian law are also captured among rebels by Russian forces.
You know that non Chechen Muslims of Russia have not joined the rebels in Chechnya. There must be some reason that Muslims of Russia do not like Chechens, do some research and find the reason, before you glorify the rebels.

I do not know why Zakk is quoting Western press in this case, though for various interests you people hate this press.

What has Muslims of chechnya defending there honour against russian rapists and mass murderers got to do with rock concerts. Nobody has been prooved guilty, just like the Moscow apartment bombings in Aug 2000 which, has been put squarely at Russian secret services door not Chechens.

Are you proud to be defend the russian rapists and genocide killlers not even one mention of the genocide committed against the chechen people wat a surprise not :frusty2:

Why chechen muslims in russia not joined chechen muslims :konfused: what kind of question is that. The muslims of russia which is many millions are called “Blacks” by the russians they are treated like 3rd class citizens. To say they have no sympathy or sense of cause with the chechens is not in line with the reality on the ground.

And what is with the “you people” you got some kind of vendetta against “us people” all of a sudden

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**I do not know why Zakk is quoting Western press in this case, though for various interests you people hate this press.
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Incidentally Zakk isn't the only one who quotes from "Western press" in this Forum. i do it 99 times out of a 100 so please don't single him out in particular.

Dear AK47, Pls read again that many Muslims from some other countries have joined the Chechen rebels, but no non-Chechen Muslim has gone to help his Muslim brothers (?) in Chechnya.
May be Muslims living in Russian territory know what kind of jihad is going on there.
You have answered in a hurry for the sake of answering. Take some rest and read again.

Yes, regarding Western press you people are very selective.

NO country can hold the people under occupation for a long time if they are as dedicated to thier cause as the chechens are its only a matter of time and i can give you my prophecy on the issue
look at srillanka ... the govt tried everything under the sun to suppress the tamils but nothing came out? because the tamils are dedicated to thier cause look at eritrea same story..
in chechenya its when the russian public will realise the futility of the war the war will come to an end and they will conclude that it was foolish on thier path to have spilled so much blood on the tiny nation of chechenya

I’m not defending the Russians, I’m saying the Checen rebels are notorious for using terrorist tactics that involve the kidnapping and murder of innocent civilians. You can pretend all you want that these righteous and oppressed rebels are using legitmate means to defend their honor, but the fact is that dozens of PROVEN acts of terrorism have occurred over the past decade that have no part in your infamous conspiracy theories.

Kabir: Very true comments but, the Russians response to freedom struggles historically has been exceptionally brutal, they used to forcibly relocate entire people hundreds of miles away. A final solution for lack of other words.

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*Originally posted by fantoosh: *
Dear AK47, Pls read again that many Muslims from some other countries have joined the Chechen rebels, but no non-Chechen Muslim has gone to help his Muslim brothers (?) in Chechnya.
May be Muslims living in Russian territory know what kind of jihad is going on there.
You have answered in a hurry for the sake of answering. Take some rest and read again.

Yes, regarding Western press you people are very selective.
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Fantoosh what point are you trying to make here the muslims of russia are oppressed are you telling me they love the racist treatment they get from russians?

Hmmm someone seem to be forgetting the Russian genocide and rapes going on in chechnya, I wonder why

So Russian bombardment of chechnya and levelling of Grozny is not terrorism what is it then liberation
:konfused:

I wouldn’t begin to defend Russian attrocities or genocide. They have been notorious for murdering their own people and dissidents. I don’t think the treatment of Chechens or anyone else under Russian rule has been admirable. OhioGuy’s favorite website presents shocking numbers to the Russian government murdering spree of the past century 20th Century Democide

But are the actions of the rebels admirable, heroic or honorable in their quest for freedom? When people post their admiration for their tactics and religous righteousness as they bomb, kidnap and terrorize innocent civilians I feel compelled to reply.

Seminole and others,

So how do people win their freedom? You say the Chechens are using terror and that is wrong. Yet, you acknowledge that the Russians are big, powerful, brutal and have committed much more atrocities. Am I hearing this. Are you living in a fantasy world?

My dear, independence and freedom are achieved at a high price. The brutal occupier doesn't give independence by coming to their senses all of a sudden. You have to fight for it. You do whatever it takes. The Chechens are doing whatever it takes in a language that the Russians are familiar with.

The Chechen resolve is clear. They are not counting their dead, but the Russians are. The Chechens are on the right side of this battle. You don't count your dead when you are after freedom. You either get freedom or you die trying to get it. That is reality and history proves it.

Faisal