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*Originally posted by rvikz: *
who realy care your are giving somebody certidficate of "people of the book" ? are you going to stop the economic aid or something.
are you going impose some kind of sanctions based on somebody's belief?
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economic aid and sanctions r all u can think of????
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*Originally posted by Angryyoungman23: *
I personally dont care who believes what, but i do acknowledge that if a person is a kafir or not.
If you dont want to then its up to you.
I also hang out with many non muslim people too, so dont get me wrong.
But again, I will call a person a kafir if he fits the definition of kafir.
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may in your country where you are majaority . even that i dont think
most people will do.
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*Originally posted by MiniMe: *
K, I agree with most of what you have said in your earlier post. But here you start with an assumption that there is no islamic state because its not practical and Shria is some sort of out dated law. Lets look at it this way, Shria is an evolving process but when we stop using it as law of the land it’s going to be out dated. It has been 80 years since the last time we had any Shria based judiciary system. So if we start using it in our regular courts (in Pakistan) it will become practicle.
Your reference regarding women being half witness, shows that how mush we know about the judiciary in islam. Very few muslim know that in Shria, there are many instances where a man is considered as half witness as well, so it all depends on the situation, and the same applies for women. So we should all try to better understand the Islamic judiciary system.
….other things later inshallah
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I repeat- there has not been any "True" islamic government since the Khufa- e- Rashideen and even then three of the four were murdered !! You say that Sharia is an evolving law- that is the whole argument!! I think it should be an evolving law but unfortunately it is not. And there are many mulah types in today's world of Wahabism who would kill you for suggesting that it is !! Regarding women, I think if a woman cannot testify against her rapist as she needs witnesses to prove her case then that law is definitely out-dated - even if it is God's Law. Women are always half witnesses to men - i am not aware of any circumstances when men are regarded as half witnesses.
That’s news to me- it has not been rejected by anyone. Infact it is now universally accepted all over the world that man descended from ape. There have been skulls found all over the world at various stages of Human evolution with small brains etc. so the evidence is there as well. As the theory goes, out of many types of human/ape offsprings, the eventual victor was the homosapien man who emerged from Africa. They beat their neandrathal cousins in Europe etc. to claim the world !!