The Best Way to Stop Terrorism in the FATA region

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**Firstly: **End the drones (no more permission to enter)

Secondly: Ulema of Pakistan establish a basis for righteous conduct in conflict situations.

Thirdly: Media to be used by religious authorities to portray systematic information with considerable detail and evidence from Qur’an and Sunnah why certain acts are NEVER permissible in Islam (Such as suicide attacks and harming of civilians)

Fourthly: Media to systematically focus on the religious Muslims who are promoting peaceful resolution and not those people who are anti-Islam or pro-secular. By focussing on the secular left as the alternative to being religious the media will end up conflating the issue and people will be polarised - since Muslims in the subcontinent are deeply religious they will select the radical right over to ultra-liberal left and the middle ground which is the true religious Islamic ground will be diminished and ignored. The only viable alternative to the zealously misguided religious people is to guide them to what is better within the confines of religion - NOT to demean religion and say we should all be secular - that will only confirm and reinforce the extreme tendencies.

Fifthly: Use the techniques of Qur’an and Sunnah to justify why educating women is not just only allowed but also required and prefered. Request Islamic justification from the twisted strict interpreters of the Shari’ah to defeat them at the religious level and bring on board the followers who are currently viewing their zealous leadership as the true representatives of the Deen.

**For the rest of Pakistan:

**> All of the problems such as with blasphemy law and hudood ordinance should follow the same principles … People not qualified to formulate opinions and then go off and instruct people in the religion should be outlawed.

Media focussing on consumerism, Indian/American values and hate or crime glamourisation should be curbed.

The wind in the sails of the mobs needs to be handled heavily - gangs need to be dismantled and tactfully replaced with social teams and groups - channel people in to sports and associations. Set up CCTV networks and place trustworthy people behind them with no family ties so as to minimise risk of criminal entrapment.

Simplify education and cap the maximum charges to reduce the run away effect that leaves the people out of reach of basic education.

Passively promote structured non-political character development through traditional Islamic tariqahs and efforts.

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:k:
Govt of Pakistan would not accept any role of ulema in this regard. Council of Islamic Ideology is govt institute (CII). CII has recommended nothing to solve the issues we are facing moreover, we dont see any function of this institute. You see even the appointment of CII chairman is politically motivated, Maulana Sherani of JUI(F) is chairman of this council perhaps because JUI(F) has been part of coalition government.

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Wow! ajazali … if such an institute exists then they have a very big role to play … Please go and wake them up !!!

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You have to bring the tribal areas into the mainstream, by providing education,infrastructure and employment to the locals.

Pakistan needs nation building even more so than Afghanistan.

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^ nation building is needed especially in Fata, KP, Balochistan, Rural Sindh and South Punjab as all of these areas are almost similar in human development index.

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Look at all the developed countries of the world and see what role religion plays in the matters of the state in these countries. Or look at the countries of the world where religion plays a role in the matters of the state and check their development index. The role of Religions in state matters is a thing of the past. It ruins everything. Its a problem, rather then a solution. It divides rather than unites. It helps creating a culture where you cannot question (certain things, certain people) and thus allows abuse of the system by those elements. The solution would be a total opposite of this. A system where people have right of information and which promotes a culture of reasoning and questioning. Otherwise we'd have an ISLAMIC country but all the muslims of this country would be more willing to flee to an UNISLAMIC country for a better life.

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Now you are talking about economy, which has a direct relation with good governance. And if I go any further on this topic, the thread will go off track.

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^ acha acha samajh gaya ;)

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It is true that good governance has a direct bearing on economic performance.

We have a government that has been installed with the support of the U.S, which has performed badly in terms of governance. We have seen drone strikes increase and militant activity increase in the country during the present government. Are we trying to reduce terrorism or to increase it? If we want to end terrorism then we are going the wrong way about it....or is the real goal something else? War on terror is war without end.

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Peace Shadan

There is 'being developed' on one side of the coin and then there is being un-Islamic ... The only reason why this pattern exists is because of the dynamics of global secular governance. However the third option which is the middle way has been almost left out of the equation.

Can we determine that being developed is good? There is no point forsaking one extreme to get into another ... The way to bring balance is to do so gradually and as I said earlier to impose ultra modernism with all its secularity it will have a negative effect on society rather than a positive one.

It is possible to integrate Islam into a modern framework ...

Secular countries lead the show not because of their secularity but because of the preferences laid out by the businesses that reside in those countries ... Today we can't think of the world in terms of borders, land and oceans ... but in terms of economic borders and their position with the World Bank ... My suggestion does not consider economy as being a factor for the improvements to be seen ... there is plenty of cash in the country it is just hoarded by the elite.

In many ways Pakistan is the place that all capitalistic countries are destined to go ... because all are tending towards a greater and greater level of disparity ... Indexes can be misleading.

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How about delinking religion from politics first? Pakistan had enough ethnic problems that we added sectarian bs starting in the eighties.

Pakistani law enforcers, which would be FC since police is pretty much non-existent in FATA, would have to take the lead and REALLY do a blind operation on miscreants in the area. The so-called militants are doing the so-called "jihad" all over the world using Pakistan as a base one way or the other, so getting PAF to shoot down drones i.e if desis can challenge goras won't solve any issues. Does anyone even know the amount of heat that would come on Pakistan if AQ is allowed to operate freely in waziristan and does some major terror attack? Collateral damage aside, do you know that almost all experts agree that drones have decimated AQ in the tribal areas?

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meh.. you try to promote religious ideologies as a way of showing people what to do in civil society.

nothing is more easily hijacked than religious ideologies. all it takes is a "scholar" and a bunch of naive people.

has been happening since forever.

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Perfectly summed up :k:

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There is a very simple way , Make FATA a province or sub province and appoint Imran Khan as governor or deputy governor .
At least we will get rid of Nirralas choon choon .
You can watch Capital Talk of the today .
اتنی احمقانہ باتیں تو میں روز یھاں کرتا ہوں ، کوئی سنتا بھی نہیں

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There is only one reason why "terrorism" in FATA has grown and that is because the Pakistan Intelligence services used this area to support anti-Soviet Afghans and then pro-Pakistan Afghans.

Everything else comes after this. FATA needs to be integrated into the rest of Pakistan and opened up. We need to be able to see what is going on there. The problem with the elite in Pakistan is they have a colonial mindset.

I disagree the Muslims of Indian Subcontinent are deeply religious. They are selectively religious. Also what do you mean Indian values? Pakistan was a part of India and still a part of the Indian subcontinent. Excluding the people of the Northern Areas, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan, the rest of Pakistan has a culture very similar to India.

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Its not religion that is the problem but the people. I live in the UK and there are countless problems since the separation of church and state. Some big issues are the breakdown of the family, materialism, crime, mental health issues to name but a few.

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All this assumes that the Taliban are reasonable and sincere. The Taliban have never done anything that would justify such an assumption.

All this assumes that the ulema all agree in their interpretation, which is certainly not the case.

All this assumes that the Ulema are willing to sit together and make such a declaration. It assumes that there is not only will, but also a capacity. The politcal situation is such that such broad based agreements are nearly impossible.

The Taliban will use the same sources to justify why their interpretation is valid. At the end of the day, its only a debate between interpretations.

You assume that the Taliban do what they do because they want to spread Islam. There is a good probablity that they do what they do purely to gain power and wealth, and Islam is just a convenient means of control and manipulation. Psychology tells us that once people have tasted the fruits of power, of money they are easily corrupted. The Talibans may not be willing to listen simply because they know that acknowledging their wrongs will mean losing power.

The rest of the problems in Pakistan follow same assumptions. You assume the Ulema WANT to fix the problems with the blashemy law. You assume they will cooperate and debate the issues in a civil manner.

Your entire post seems a bit naive, and more flight of fancy then serious policy. You have not taken account of basic ground reality.

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The only way is to stop terrorism there in my opinion, is to stop fooling one self into believing the Taliban can be reasoned with or convinced.

Defeat the Taliban outright. Make them non existent.

Introduce political reforms, give FATA political representation. Allow the creation of genuine leadership. Invest in education and infrastructure.

End all political machinations, stop the nonsensical jihads. No more interference in the affairs of Afghanistan, no more using the Tribesmen as cannon fodder. Let them focus on progress, not war.

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Niralas are not like jiyalas who keep crying about Sindh card or Multan card or Takht-e-Lahore. We talk about Pakistan. I don't want to talk about jiyalas otherwise this thread will go where you don't want to see it.

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You kill 1, 10 more sprout. See the problem? :chai: