There will always be geographical border changes. Today it is Pakistan, tomorrow it will be India. If Pakistan disintegrates, India wont be far.
The entire North East could separate. South India is progressing much faster than North India.
good point denanda
and who would it benefit? I mean indians and Pakistanis just salivate at each other's problems without realizing that such things happening to either country are not only not in the benefit of the country it is happening to, but also its neighbour. it only helps interests of others. but yeah lets stay as tools and minions of others.
and who would it benefit? I mean indians and Pakistanis just salivate at each other's problems without realizing that such things happening to either country are not only not in the benefit of the country it is happening to, but also its neighbour. it only helps interests of others. but yeah lets stay as tools and minions of others.
Sometimes small countries could be easy to manage. Maybe it could be like EU. There could be less tension.
Ofcourse there are big players (mainly US) who are assisting financially and militarliy with these exercises for their benefit.
A "mohajir" is not the top general fellow, Kiyanni is from Jhelum. Still we are not hypocrites like you MQM ethnic terrorists and we see what is wrong.
answer this:
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All I here is an ethnic terrorist supporter crying. Is your idol Mushy a Punjabi? I dont think so. You MQM wallas cant cry about Punjab any more because your party is bent over and taking it hard from the "evil Punjabi establishment" you were crying about for so long. Only reason you are doing it now is because one of your own is in charge. :) I love the hyopcrasy of it now. Before all Punjabis were bad, the center and army were bad. Now that Mush has cut a deal with your Quaid you all love the army and him. If a Punjabi were in charge and not Mush the MQM and people like you would be crying at the top of your luings and we all know the truth.
So criticize the army and center now (AND MUSH AS WELL) if you are'nt a hypocite because ordinary Punjabis are doing it at the top of their lungs right now and dont talk about Punjab because today the MQM and its black quaid are the only group in the country that support the tyrants. The MQM is Mushys only vote bank and only real support.
Why do you have such a fascination with anyone bending over and "taking it hard"? Get your mind out of the gutter.
Kayani is the general in charge, but it is Mush who is charge of the country. Thank God he was in charge during 9/11, or Pakistan may have been a nuclear wasteland right now. Why didn't Punjab cry at the top of their lungs when the army was killing Bengalis, Sindhis, Balochs and Mohajirs? Mush is going against jihadis irrespective of ethnicity, and that really annoys the pro-jihadists.
Why do you have such a fascination with anyone bending over and "taking it hard"? Get your mind out of the gutter.
Kayani is the general in charge, but it is Mush who is charge of the country. Thank God he was in charge during 9/11, or Pakistan may have been a nuclear wasteland right now. Why didn't Punjab cry at the top of their lungs when the army was killing Bengalis, Sindhis, Balochs and Mohajirs? Mush is going against jihadis irrespective of ethnicity, and that really annoys the pro-jihadists.
Let me ask you a simple question. Forget about Jihad and Jiadhis. You MQM wallas were anti-center and establishment for your entire existance. Why do you support the tyranny of Mushy and his gang now? Because he is one of your own?
How do you speak out of one side of your mouth about Punjab this and that, then on the other side you praise Mushy and his PML-Q gang who are the worst part of the Punjabi establishment (people like the Chaudry brothers)
To me this shows the complete lack of even an ounce of morality or truth to the MQM party. When it was convenient for you, you betrayed the most basic of all rights. You speak of democracy and freedom for ordinary Pakistanis. But the situation has never been worse with Mushy and his gang rigging the election, crushing the judiciary, silencing the media and now quite possibly murdering their main opposition figure.
The rest of the country will never forget what MQM is all about. And dont forget something - regardless of what happens to Mushy and his army or even Pakistan. MQM supporters are still less than 50% of Karachi (this is neccsarily true since mohajirs are less than 50% and not all mohajirs support MQM)
While you support Mushy and the center, all those people Mushy is currently busy crushing - the comman Sindhi, Pahstun, Balochi and even Punjabi will remember what you've done long after he and his lotaz are gone.
Let me ask you a simple question. Forget about Jihad and Jiadhis. You MQM wallas were anti-center and establishment for your entire existance. Why do you support the tyranny of Mushy and his gang now? Because he is one of your own?
How do you speak out of one side of your mouth about Punjab this and that, then on the other side you praise Mushy and his PML-Q gang who are the worst part of the Punjabi establishment (people like the Chaudry brothers)
To me this shows the complete lack of even an ounce of morality or truth to the MQM party. When it was convenient for you, you betrayed the most basic of all rights. You speak of democracy and freedom for ordinary Pakistanis. But the situation has never been worse with Mushy and his gang rigging the election, crushing the judiciary, silencing the media and now quite possibly murdering their main opposition figure.
The rest of the country will never forget what MQM is all about. And dont forget something - regardless of what happens to Mushy and his army or even Pakistan. MQM supporters are still less than 50% of Karachi (this is neccsarily true since mohajirs are less than 50% and not all mohajirs support MQM)
While you support Mushy and the center, all those people Mushy is currently busy crushing - the comman Sindhi, Pahstun, Balochi and even Punjabi will remember what you've done long after he and his lotaz are gone.
Chaudry bratharan are the chohti machlis of the Punjabi establishment. The big fish are the jihadi nut cases sitting in the ISI, army and their offspring in the form of various tanzeems, lashkars, parties, and groups. There is no tyranny from Mush, unless you are a jihadi collaborator. I only started supporting Mush after lal masjid episode, because that was the first time some leader had balls to confront the 5th columnist mullah-jihadis. He is less than perfect, but unlike other leaders who have been sucking up to the taliban frankenstein, mush has shown some ability to confront them....he still has to do much more.
MQM supports the stability of Pakistan and good policies and is not beholden to false notions of feudalocracy hiding under the guise of democracy.
Unlike the BB and NS jiyalas, I don't pretend that Mush has given us some pure form of democracy. Pakistanis have proven time and time again that they would rather choose a feudalocracy with Bhutto over a a real democracy.
What reality did he MQM racist facists create when the targetted Pashtuns last spring?
Why did the ANP, PPP, PPI ghundas come with guns for a "peaceful" protest?
PPP jiyalay toh bhutto khandan kay ghulam hay. bhutto jis nay mulk taqsim kiya tha. MQM kay ghunday toh sirf bhonk raha hay, PPP kay ghunday na bhonka bhi hor kata bhi.
Indians don't want to dismember Pakistan. If they wanted to, they would have supported the various secessionist movements in Pakistan. Although it is true that India has spread its tentacles in Afghanistan and is reviving the Pakhtunistan idea in order to cause trouble in Pakistan, but only as a bargaining chip.
The greatest danger lies in the indigenous revival of a Pakhtunistan nationalist movement aiming to unite NWFP and Baluchistan with Afghanistan. This would be anathema to both Iran and Pakistan, but would probably be attractive to Western powers as it would disrupt China's efforts in Gwadar.
The Pashtuns are numerous and well-organised, unlike the Baluchis, and their participation in Pakistan is key to the country's survival.
I doubt Balochistan wants to be a aprt of Afghanistan its regretting the very existence of pakistan so why would it want to switch to another country which might treat it not very good again? balochies would rather have complete indpendence
pashtun nationalist movements wanting to join afghanistan is all but dead. afghanistan is hardy the most pro-pashtun country in the world. PkMap ledf by achakzai and ANP have fallen apart. pashtun nationalistparties are not calling for separation anymore but autonomy. although this could change again.
the vast majority of pashtuns in nwfp see pakistan as their home country and not afghanistan. pashtuns as a whole vote for a numbe rof political parties.
he real threat within comes from sindh right now. if the ppp disinegrates, it could have a negative effect on pakistan. its the onkly party with national appeal. people have been writing these articles for years. pakistan can cgange the course of its own history and future by treating al provinces equally and making so theyal beenfit from pakistan. its never too late. people should listen to othersides of the argument as to why people want a break-up rather than calling them anti-state elemnts.
if anyone thinks they will have better luck with 4 smaller and weaker states - we wil wait and see
Indians don't want to dismember Pakistan. If they wanted to, they would have supported the various secessionist movements in Pakistan. Although it is true that India has spread its tentacles in Afghanistan and is reviving the Pakhtunistan idea in order to cause trouble in Pakistan, but only as a bargaining chip.
The greatest danger lies in the indigenous revival of a Pakhtunistan nationalist movement aiming to unite NWFP and Baluchistan with Afghanistan. This would be anathema to both Iran and Pakistan, but would probably be attractive to Western powers as it would disrupt China's efforts in Gwadar.
The Pashtuns are numerous and well-organised, unlike the Baluchis, and their participation in Pakistan is key to the country's survival.
Funny how no one realized he was a Mohajir during the first 5-6 years of Musharaf the Mohajirs rule!!!
Or did it suddenly dawn on EVERYONE after those 6 years that Mush is a Mohajir!
Wake up, unlike you, race is no relevant to the majority of the Pakistanis… We hate Musharaf because he is dictator with no regard for the consitution.
Maybe they can start by NOT calling the creation of Pakistan the biggest blunder in the history of mankind.
Truth can't be whitewashed away. Sorry. We should concentrate on who ruined Pakistan and fix their damage. What is history is history. Look to the future and see who is actively involved in breaking up Pakistan.
Truth can't be whitewashed away. Sorry. We should concentrate on who ruined Pakistan and fix their damage. What is history is history. Look to the future and see who is actively involved in breaking up Pakistan.
You dont have to white wash anything... Your more then welcome to apply for an Indian vesa and undue the mistake you ancestors made 60 years ago...
