Even though Amreekis support Nazis wholeheartedly, I blame their media for that. There is a difference between an average American and the criminal Amreeki policies.
These Nazis in American administration and media support Nazis at the expense of America’s interests.
Following is from an American who sees through the Zionist designs against America’s interests.
He makes point that why is America not talking to its enemies at the behest of Zionist Nazis?
America is a world power with a broader interest in the Middle East than Israel’s, and if we are to protect those interests and play the role history has assigned us, we cannot allow any nation to exercise veto power over whom we talk to. While most Americans wish to maintain our commitment to the security and survival of Israel, we must declare our political and diplomatic independence of Israel, as Eisenhower, Nixon and Reagan all did.
The painful truth is that, in the Middle East, democracy will produce, as it does in the West, two dominant parties. One will be a state party, and the other is going to be a party rooted in the Islamic faith.
Time to recognize reality – and stop isolating America.
Well said, we should not lump all Americans in this crusade. It is the right wing America that is obsessed with Crusader mentality; average Americans are good and simple people and are busy with their livelihoods. Besides America has a lot of good to offer the world. Their science, technology, art, medicine etc are only very few of their qualities. Muslims should make effort to take the good that America has to offer. General hate for America should not be justified. If history were to remember the fall of America; then they will certainly remember the right wing of America.
Muslims, particularly those who have never met Americans, lived with them and studied with them should not presume to know them.
What perhaps Muslims should ask, is, why have Americans suceeded? Why have they become one of the Worlds' leading powers? Muslims are very quick to rail against the decadence, strife, crime and noise of the West, but do they really understand it?
I once asked a Desi, what is it about the Americans that you did not understand before, that you understand after living with us? He responded, that Americans accept rules. If you are stopped for a traffic violation, you are generally accepting that the facts against you are wrong. And in general an American cop will not stop you unless you have done something wrong. A Desi would have given you a thousand reasons why he did not deserve the citation, and would have argued endlessly that he did not break the law. Even if he had.
Americans have a common set of Mores, values that drive a society. You may laughingly say this is herd behavior with our media, our politics or our beliefs. What you do not understand is that this common foundation makes the deliberation of right and wrong a streamlined affair, which has served us well over hundreds of years. Once decided, Americans are fairly homogenous in our beliefs. The value set is ingrained.
Our success is also grounded in honesty. In 30 years of business I was never approached with a bribe. My decisions on vendors and business relationships was based soley on the best interest of my employer. Americans are completely ignorant of the concept of corruption. Once in awhile there is a high profile case of corruption, but we can pass a whole lifetime without experiencing bribery. Our experience is excedingly honest. We are shocked that the rest of the world is at times dishonest.
We do not think in terms of religion. Our lives are entirely secular. I was out in a crowd of people with a Desi, and found a person from Ohio. The Desi asked, how do I tell them all apart? The answer of course is that I can't. Other than an occasional accent, Americans are highly mobile, moving from State to State. We blend easily with one another, and do not immediately make assumptions about class, wealth, religion, regional origin, or any other presumption upon meeting a person. We are able to distinguish race, and that still is a distinction that is slowly fading. But we do not and cannot distinguish on ethnicity and religion, as those things almost never come up in daily discussion.
Those who would presume to portray us as Nazis or Crusaders or Zionists or Jews are as ignorant as those who portray the Prophet as a terrorist. They simply don't know, and are letting prejudice rule their lives. But, that mentality lives on here at Gupshup.
What perhaps Muslims should ask, is, why have Americans suceeded? Why have they become one of the Worlds' leading powers? Muslims are very quick to rail against the decadence, strife, crime and noise of the West, but do they really understand it?
I once asked a Desi, what is it about the Americans that you did not understand before, that you understand after living with us? He responded, that Americans accept rules. If you are stopped for a traffic violation, you are generally accepting that the facts against you are wrong. And in general an American cop will not stop you unless you have done something wrong. A Desi would have given you a thousand reasons why he did not deserve the citation, and would have argued endlessly that he did not break the law. Even if he had.
Americans have a common set of Mores, values that drive a society. You may laughingly say this is herd behavior with our media, our politics or our beliefs. What you do not understand is that this common foundation makes the deliberation of right and wrong a streamlined affair, which has served us well over hundreds of years. Once decided, Americans are fairly homogenous in our beliefs. The value set is ingrained.
Our success is also grounded in honesty. In 30 years of business I was never approached with a bribe. My decisions on vendors and business relationships was based soley on the best interest of my employer. Americans are completely ignorant of the concept of corruption. Once in awhile there is a high profile case of corruption, but we can pass a whole lifetime without experiencing bribery. Our experience is excedingly honest. We are shocked that the rest of the world is at times dishonest.
We do not think in terms of religion. Our lives are entirely secular. I was out in a crowd of people with a Desi, and found a person from Ohio. The Desi asked, how do I tell them all apart? The answer of course is that I can't. Other than an occasional accent, Americans are highly mobile, moving from State to State. We blend easily with one another, and do not immediately make assumptions about class, wealth, religion, regional origin, or any other presumption upon meeting a person. We are able to distinguish race, and that still is a distinction that is slowly fading. But we do not and cannot distinguish on ethnicity and religion, as those things almost never come up in daily discussion.
Those who would presume to portray us as Nazis or Crusaders or Zionists or Jews are as ignorant as those who portray the Prophet as a terrorist. They simply don't know, and are letting prejudice rule their lives. But, that mentality lives on here at Gupshup.
Long live ignorance.
This might be the first time I agree with you on something more than 50%. The one thing that I don't about living here is the fact that sex is blended so much in this society that it is no longer viewed as a derogatory moral value. I can bet more than 50% of the domestic issues would eventually find its roots linked with sex and its fantasies.
One thing that I would testify to because I live in USA is that yes the citizens here have high regard for the rules they have agreed to abide by. And what is not so good is many desi's who regard those same rules here when flying back to there countries totally forget the meaning of that.
Speaking as a guy with two young daughters, there’s no doubt that there is too much sexualization in western societies (not just the US). I would say that it’s the lone “downside” of a free, liberal society. Realistically, the root is $$. Sex sells.
Long live ignorance.
Thank you for all the information but it doesn't really counter the the first post. There is a difference in being good people and being ignorant of whats happening around the world, only accepting what is shown in mainstream media.
The only problem in America are the right wing whites. 90% of Blacks in America have no problem with Muslims whatsoever. 90% of Hispanics have no probem with Muslims.
The only people who support the neocon mentality are the right-wing whites who are about 40% of Americans and are the backbone of the Republican party, but these whites are becoming a minority every year. By 2050 whites as a whole will become a minority in America which is a good thing and so will the American policies in the Middle East change. The whites in America are scared that they will loose their dominant position in America when they become a minority, so they are becoming even more against immigration (legal and illegal)
In the next decades it will be become less important what America thingks. YOu have Countries like CHina, Brazil, Russia Indonesia emerging as new Powerful countries and These countries don’t have the neocon mentality. Muslims countries must adopt modern technology and education and ally themself with CHina and the New emerging powers to get rid of the neocon trap.
People who may be indifferent to what’s happening around the world because it doesn’t directly affect them, or who rely on the mainstream media to learn about world events are “bad people”? Interesting theory.
Is the non-mainstream media free from bias in your view?
Read my post again, if even after doing that you reach the same conclusion then let me know I'll explain it.
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Not really but main-stream media pushes mainly one kind of view, people don't usually don't bother enough (due to various reasons) to look at other media outlets to see if what they are being is told is same from other sources.
I re-read your post as you requested el capitan. You’re clearly implying that people who are “ignorant of whats happening around the world, only accepting what is shown in mainstream media” are “bad”.
What percentage of the 1 Billion or so citizens of the muslim world would you say are aware of what’s happening around the world? What percent can even read? By your logic, are they “bad people” too?
That being said, it’s true that many American’s are ignorant of other cultures and world events that don’t directly affect them. However, to suggest that this makes them bad people is just plain ridiculous.
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Wrong presumptions. Many people here are, or have been, in the US.
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Our success is also grounded in honesty.
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This honesty stops at the Amreekan borders.
Amreeka has NEVER been "honest" in its foreign policies, and in case of support of illegitimate state of Israel, America has been criminally biased. Just look at this new resolution that Darwin's grandson American president has presented. It's pathetically biased. Not even Israel itself would have come up with such a pathetic resolution.
Bravo to American "honesty".
Like I said, an average dumba** American is more worried about rising oil prices and getting laid at weekend. It is their Nazi-backed propaganda from their governments and media which gives them only one side of story.
Nazionists have been fooling American population for long, but thanks to internet, many Americans are now coming to their senses. They now see how much they are duped by cunning FOXes.
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y 2050 whites as a whole will become a minority in America
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hahaha. And this explains the surge in the number of minute men and their support on FOXy channels.
All their rhetoric of racial equality becomes laughable when we see their hype against Hispanics. White conservatives are actually worried about loosing majority, and thus not able to lead America's policies.
Just look at Lou Dob Bull Dog's show on CNN. Full of hatred and sometimes lies.
errrr, no. What I meant is that being good is different from accepting whats thrown at them in media, there is no correlation between the two. Is that clear?