The 6 Day War: Greatest miltary victory?

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along with Pakistan too, :alhamd:

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i dont think so. i can defeat germany with in 30 minutes on my PS2.:D

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maybe what is what your mullah at your local mosque told you but that is not reality

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Why the alhamdullilah?

Depending on the attack [if] it depends how big it is which only affects Pakistan as far as radioactive winds are concerned.

I think we might have to take iranian refugees in that case? Iran made similar preparations in 2002 when it though indopak were going to war..

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The "WAR" is still going on, so to say there was a victory is naive.

**It aint over til the FAT LADY SINGS...:( **

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In 2002, they must have prepared to receive refugees from India, not Pakistan.

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^^ why india?

it doenst share any geographical border with Iran

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I don't follow mullahs and I despise religious institutions.

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My mistake, I am a very ignorant, so called, "Muslim", I should have said inshallah.

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So I guess Indian navy must have the responsibility to transport the refugees to Iran [get in “Line of Fire” of Paki subs]. What a brilliant idea :hehe:

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;)

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Even after 60 days of bombing Lebanon, Israel got a bloody nose at the hands of Hezbollah.

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^^ After which Hezbollah said it was a mistake to start this war. International UN force has been deployed in Southern Lebanon and Hezbollah won't start another conflict with Israel due to what awaits Lebanon.

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Israel was defeated, and that will haunt them for years to come - no matter what spin one puts on it.

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If Israel is haunted after one loss, the Arabs must be feeling bewithced, bothered, bewildered and bedeviled by now.

I know their mishandling of that conflict gives Israel haters goose bumps, but before hanging "Mission Accomplished" banners you are gonna have to do better than that.

Frankly I'd be wary since they are doing an enormous amount of analyzing and planning to make sure they don't ever do something like that again. So you are right, they will be haunted for years to come - which means trouble for everyone else in the area.

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I agree completely !!.....and yesterday was the anniversary of the french surrender to the germans ...just in six weeks french that had resisted the germans for four years in 1914 were on their knees :)
to top it all the germans were greatly outnumbered by the Allies in tanks/airplanes/artillery a fact often overlooked by traditional postwar western historians ....esp. since most people rely on William Shirer's book for their knowledge of WW2

obviously as you have said opening stages of barbarossa were the most onesided battles in history, the huge number of soviet tanks knocked out by germans and soviet aircrafts destroyed is simply mindboggling ....

isreali achievement is a great one [militarily] in the context of third world wars only

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lol ....they outnumbered the germans greatly and the nutcase fuhrer forbade then to make a tactical withdrawal that caused them to get trapped there in a pocket....plus the unreliability of the rumanian and italian troops.
if u go by numbers alone germans captured >500,000 russain POWs in the encirclement battles in ukraine in 1941.That by itself is far greater than german POWs at stalingrad
at any rate Mainstein's brillaint counterattack nullified the soviet victory and stopped their spring offensive in its tracks .....
from soviet POV I think either Kursk or destruction of army group centre in 1944 could be counted as their grts victories

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Forty Years Later

Searching for the Truth About the USS Liberty

By WARD BOSTON

Forty years ago this week, I was asked to investigate the heaviest attack on an American ship since World War II. As senior legal counsel to the Navy Court of Inquiry it was my job to help uncover the truth regarding Israel's June 8th 1967 bombing of the* USS Liberty. On that sunny, clear day 40 years ago, Israel's combined air and naval forces attacked our American intelligence-gathering ship for two hours, inflicting 70 percent casualties. Thirty four American sailors died and 172 were injured. The USS Liberty* remained afloat only by the crew's heroic efforts

Israel claimed it was an accident. Yet I know from personal conversations with the late Admiral Isaac C. Kidd -- president of the Court of Inquiry -- that President Johnson and Secretary of Defense McNamara ordered him to conclude that the attack was a case of "mistaken identity". The ensuing cover-up has haunted us for forty years. What does it imply for our national security, not to mention our ability to honestly broker peace in the Middle East, when we cannot question Israel's actions ­ even when they kill Americans.

On June 8th, survivors of Israel's cruel attack will gather in Washington, DC to honor their dead shipmates as well as the mothers, sisters, widows and children they left behind. They will continue to ask for a fair and impartial congressional inquiry that, for the first time, would allow the survivors themselves to testify publicly. For decades, I have remained silent. I am a military man and when orders come in from the Secretary of Defense and President of the United States, I follow them. However, attempts to rewrite history and concern for my country compel me to share the truth. Admiral Kidd and I were given only one week to gather evidence for the Navy's official investigation, though we both estimated that a proper Court of Inquiry would take at least six months.

We boarded the crippled ship at sea and interviewed survivors. The evidence was clear. We both believed with certainty that this attack was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew.

I am certain the Israeli pilots and commanders who had ordered the attack knew the ship was American. I saw the bullet-riddled American flag that had been raised by the crew after their first flag had been shot down completely. I heard testimony that made it clear the Israelis intended there be no survivors. Not only did they attack with napalm, gunfire, and missiles, Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned at close range three life rafts that had been launched in an attempt to save the most seriously wounded. I am outraged at the efforts of Israel's apologists to claim this attack was a case of "mistaken identity." Admiral Kidd told me that after receiving the President's cover-up orders, he was instructed to sit down with two civilians from either the White House or the Defense Department, and rewrite portions of the Court's findings. He said, "Ward, they're not interested in the facts. It's a political matter and we cannot talk about it." We were to "put a lid on it" and caution everyone involved never to speak of it again. I know that the Court of Inquiry transcript that has been released to the public is not the same one that I certified and sent to Washington. I know this because it was necessary, due to the exigencies of time, to hand correct and initial a substantial number of pages. I have examined the released version of the transcript and did not see any pages that bore my hand corrections and initials. Also, the original did not have any deliberately blank pages, as the released version does. In addition, the testimony of Lt. Lloyd Painter concerning the deliberate machine-gunning of the life rafts by the Israeli torpedo boat crews, which I distinctly recall being given at the Court of Inquiry and including in the original transcript, is now missing.

I join the survivors in their call for an honest inquiry. Why is there no room to question Israel ­ even when they kill Americans -- in the halls of Congress?

Let the survivors testify. Let me testify. Let former intelligence officers testify that they received real-time Hebrew translations of Israeli commanders instructing their pilots to sink "the American ship". Surely uncovering the truth about what happened to American servicemen in a bloody attack is more important than protecting Israel. And surely forty years is long enough to wait.

]Ward Boston served as chief counsel to the Navy's Court of Inquiry into the attack on USS Liberty and as a naval aviator in World War II on the carrier Yorktown, and as an FBI agent prior to his assignment to the Navy's Judge Advocates General Corps. He is a graduate of the Law School of the College of William and Mary, and a resident of Coronado, California.

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^^ this has already been disproved

why are you clutching on straws to find something against Israel?

Do you really give a damn about these American sailors on this ship?

I bet every single American solider that has died in Iraq, you cheered his death so how is it genuine your sympathy towards American sailors on this ship when its clearly done to malign Israel

no one is buying it

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^^ What has been disproven?