THAR , Facts , geography , history and problems .

Now a days issue of Thar has been at top of our media list .

Thar is the world’s 18th biggest desert and situated almost in India , Rajhistan also called Rajputana . It is on the eastern bank of river Sutlaj and goes upto Indian Ocean or Baheera e Arab . A Muslim majority state of Rajputana , Bahawalpur opted Pakistan in 1947 partition so some part of this desert comes in Pakistan which is called Choolistan . Most historic place in Pakistani Thar is Drawar Fort .

The southern portion in Pakistan’s Sindh is inhabited by primarily by Sindhis and Kolhis. A colourful culture rich in tradition prevails in this desert. The people have a great passion for folk music and folk poetry.. Poor people love their home place . The main occupation of the people in desert is agriculture and animal husbandry. In past years there has been a tremendous increase in human population as well as animal population. This has led to improper control of grazing and extensive cultivation resulting into the deterioration of vegetation resources. The increase of human and livestock population in the desert has led to deterioration in the ecosystem resulting in degradation of soil fertility.
The living standard of the people in the desert is low. The Thar Desert is the most densely populated desert in the world, with a population density of 83 people per km. vs 7 in other deserts .

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The Sindh area attached to this desert is called Tharpaker .
Tharparkar consists of two words, Thar means ‘desert’ while Parkar stands for ‘the other side’. Years back, it was known as Thar and Parkar but subsequently became just one word ‘Tharparkar’ for the two distinct parts of Sindh province. On the western side, Parkar is the irrigated area whereas Thar, the eastern part, is known as the largest desert of Pakistan with a rich multifaceted culture, heritage, traditions, folk tales, dances and music due to its inhabitants who belong to different religions, sects and casts. The Parkar area has been formed by the alluvial deposits of river Indus while Thar mostly consists of barren tracts of sand dunes covered with thorny bushes. The only hills of the district, named Karon-Jhar, are in the extreme south-east corner of Nagar Parkar Taluka, a part of Thar. These hills are spread over about 20 kilometers in length and attains a height of 300 meters. Covered with sparse jungle and pasturage, they give rise to two perennial springs as well as streams caused after rain.
Climate:
The Thar area has a tropical desert climate. The months of April, May and June are the hottest ones during the day. The average maximum and minimum temperatures during this period remain 41 centigrade to 24 centigrade respectively while December, January and February are the comparatively coldest months with average maximum and minimum temperatures 28 centigrade to 9 centigrade respectively. Rainfall varies from year to year. Most of the rain falls in the monsoon months between June and September whereas the winter rains are insignificant. For many times in last decades there was no rain in Thar during whole the year . It is often not much cold in winter .
Some worth-seeing places:

Though sand is all around in Thar. But, in the Nangarparkar, the egg-shaped hills of Karon-Jhar and the charm of its valleys coupled with some sacred places for Hindus may give unforgettable memories.
A few kilometers away in the north-western side from Nangarparkar, Hindus’ holy place Saroharo attracts its believers as hindus denote this temple to their Mahadev (the biggest god). Saroharo is on the brink of a seasonal stream and a all-season-pond where Hindus come for their rituals. Since they have faith on the presence of these hills and pond in their holy books, they throw the bones and ashes of dead bodies into whirlpool of this pond after burning them. They also celebrate Shorateri fair here every March. Above Saroharo, there is the Rishi’s aasthan (a very small room used for worship) and ten impressions of his fingers of feet. According to a belief that Rishi worshipped here for ten thousand years but finally lost his invocation by touching a young girl. (He is the same Rishi whose request to the god turned the sea into a desert.)
Gaomakhi is another aasthan, just a kilometer away in the north of Saroharo. Here the tips of two hills join each other, making the shape of a cow. A 30-feet high waterfall may be witnessed here during the monsoon season. Hindus come here too for their rituals. At the distance of a few yards in the south of Gaomakhi, here is a very deep pond named Bhemgoda. It is 20 feet wide and around 30 feet long pond that never dries up. Inchlas is another aasthan towards the south-western of Nangarparkar. Here, three streams come out of different hills. Water flows from these natural streams all the year. A tavern is here for the travelers and Hindus who visit Inchlas aasthan. Chandan Gud is a fort, built by Rana Chandan, one of the Parkar rulers, in 1859. Now, only its remains are there.
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parts of Thar (box item)**Chachro, Mithi, Diplo, Nangarparkar, Umerkot
**A tale of Rishi’s “buddua” (Side-bar or Box item)Once upon a time, there was a Rishi (worshiper) who was in search of an isolated place to worship. One day when he was in trans, he saw the Karon-Jhar Hills and decided to go there for his worship. He spent almost ten thousand years in devotion standing on each finger of his feet. During the last days of his worship, the Rishi’s wife sent a letter to him tied around the neck of a butterfly requesting him to come back. Replying back to his wife, the Rishi wiped off the drops of perspiration from his forehead and wrapped in his wife’s letter and returned the butterfly back to his wife. While passing over the sea, an eagle attacked the butterfly, and Rishi’s sweat-drops fell in the mouth of a fish. Later on the fish gave birth to a girl who was brought-up by fishermen and named after Machandra. In her youth, she turned to be a most beautiful girl, used to sail in the full-moon nights. Meanwhile, the Rishi has completed his worship and went to the fishermen so that they could take him to the other side of the sea. But, all fishermen were busy and they asked Machandra to take the Rishi other side of the sea. After sitting in the boat and watching the beauty of Machandra, the Rishi fell in love with the girl. He rubbed the back of girl. Realizing his wrong-doing, he stopped himself at once but he has lost his ten thousand years’ worship. Than he raised his hands for buddua (asking something from god against someone) and said, “O’ Parkar no Rishi or Monk shall take birth on thy soil”. Rishi’s buddua led the sea dried and a busy harbour turned to a desert. The history has no evidence to any Rishi or Monk on the soil.Average temperature (Centigrade) and precipitation recorded at Umar Kot, a part of Thar
Month Max. Min. Precipitation in mm
January 25.6 7.6 1.00
February 29.5 10.7 2.00
March 35.3 16.6 1.00
April 39.9 20.7 1.00
May 42.4 25.0 1.00
June 40.8 27.3 10.00
July 37.2 26.8 50.00
August 35.1 25.8 76.00
September 36.2 24.2 23.00
October 36.4 20.1 5.00
November 32.3 13.9 1.00
December 27.4 8.7 1.00
Source: Meteorological Department, Government of Pakistan, Islamabad.

I will try to the post the details of recent problem in my next post in this thread , Hope some serious discussion here .

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So what do you want to discuss here?

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^ Kal bhi bhutto zinda tha aj bhi bhutto zinda ha

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woh tou sub ko patta hay... :)

Bhutto zinda hay in the poverty and illiteracy of people, as soon as they become politically aware Bhutto will die...

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Its all natural calamities. Thari people are used to famine for centuries over centuries. They will just vote for PPP again and again.

Chahe tum mujhko sanwaro, chahe barbaad karo
mere qatil mere dildaar mere paas raho

Pasha Saheb, please compare Thar with Rajistan in India and Cholistan in Bahawalpur and tell us why people of those deserts are in comparatively better position?

If by anyway, you want to prove that migration of Thari people from desert to barrage areas is historical and natural and nothing can't be done about that, then reply what PPP have done for people of barrage areas who have to migrate towards Karachi for getting a clerk's job?

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^ More than anything is the education of people. Educate them today, and tell them about their rights and then you'll witness a difference.

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Waisay aap inn wajohat ka iss thread main bhi zikar kar saktahy , Mola Khush Rakhay :sunnyboy:

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/637827-mar-gaye-sindhi-zinda-hai-bhutto-9.html#post9957236

Mod please merge this thread :smiley:

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Sorry Dude, Wadaira Saeen ko Itna pagal samjha hay :emmy: Yah Loog Nasal Dar Nasal Hamari Ghulami kartay aain hain, Hum inn ko haqooq ka batain :aj: Inn ka haq hay bus hamari khidmat karna, Mola Khush Rakhay :cobra:

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I was looking some sort of discussion stated here . I am still trying to know more but some thing very serious striking in my mind , Let us think on that first .
A compesation of Rs 200,000 is announced for every life by the government of Sindh .
A compesation of Rs 500,000 is announced for every life by Malik Riaz .
Federal government is also announcing something like this .
I am very afraid , People are very poor , You can see them gathering for little every where , Even Thari people who were away are reaching back home to get some benifet of present situation . This compensation should be restricted till lives gone till today or tomorrow . Otherwise it can lead to some very dangerous or very bad consiquences .

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Raja Ranjeet Singh Invaded Thar...and then took all the water from there and created the 5 rivers to irrigate punjab.

So, now you know why kids in Thar are starving.

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Gas from Sindh and Balucistan is being looted sinse last fifty years by the family of Maharaja Ranjeet Singh upto now .
Not much difference .

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Yes. Now making plans to loot all the coal too.

I heard Fauji Foundation has also set up a wind power plant. Stealing all the energy from Sindh.

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Neglegence , corruption and dishonesty is the common thing in Pakistan every where
About the recent one is also a result of that but was it very rare . Just look at the reports published earlier .

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May 12, 2012 - Karachi Preventable infectious diseases were responsible for almost two-thirds of the 7.6 million deaths of children under five worldwide, [/COLOR]
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One more giving some figures
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Mortality rate, female child (per 1,000 female children age one) The value for Mortality rate, under-5 (per 1,000 live births) in Pakistan was 72.00 as of 2011.
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I am not surprised over the people worried about Thar now a days .
PM is a PM of Pakistan and Federal government is a government of Pakistan
If Sindh government was unaware , Was federation aware .
PTI , PML N , even MQM contested election from Tharparker
Was they not aware ?
Army and rangers have presence there , Our agencies remain active there due to border area .
Were they not aware ?
The man reached Mithi in helicopter with PM , X-CM of Sindh , a resident of the area , Search Google and find any statement from him earlier !
What happened overnight that it became the biggest issue of the country .

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^ oh Bhai your party is ruling Sindh almost exclusively for most of the past 45 years, were they aware of the drought or not? What steps has the government over the yard taken to bring the people out of abject poverty? As the issue is concerning PPP government, should the media have kept quiet and let people die?

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Summary:

  1. Kids died because of cold weather, not famine (thanks to Qaim Ali Shah for this investigation and conclusion)
  2. Kids die all the time in Pakistan, information courtesy Anwar Pasha
  3. People migrated in past from fear of famine/drought in past, they should've done same thing now, people are irresponsible!
  4. PPP is busy in looting, other parties/institutions should have helped people of Thar.

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A great article by Michael Kugelman that nicely explains the tragedy in Thar and some of the other maladies afflicting Pakistan:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 "**Pakistan's Impending Famine

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It’s hard to catch a break in Pakistan.

**Extremist violence is widespread, earthquakes and flooding are routine, and polio remains endemic. No nation has a higher infant mortality rate, and only a few have more cases of tuberculosis. Nearly half the country’s 180 million people lack access to safe water, and many Pakistanis have experienced power outages of up to 20 hours per day. Given such stresses, it’s not surprising that up to 16 percent of the country suffers from mental illness.
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And now comes the latest scourge: Famine.

In recent days, media reports have revealed that dozens of people—many of them children—have died from malnutrition over the last three months in the bone-dry desert region of Thar, in the southern province of Sindh. And yet things could soon get much worse. A recent UNICEF report, noting that drought has “devastated” crops and livestock and that “hundreds of thousands” of people have fled, warns of a possible “massive humanitarian crisis” in Thar. Ominously, almost 3 million people “risk starvation” across Pakistan.

Many Pakistani press accounts—and numerous Pakistani politicians—depict the Thar tragedy as a catastrophic case of negligence by Sindh’s provincial government. They fault local officials for taking too long to get food assistance to those in need late last year when drought conditions first began to set in. And they single out authorities for failing to transfer sick children in remote areas to better hospitals.

Yet the Thar famine also reflects another type of failure: that of democracy.

In recent years, Pakistan—a country ruled by the military for about half its existence— has made remarkable democratic progress. With successive free elections, civilian rule is firmly in place. Pakistan’s mighty military has mellowed. Constitutional amendments have decentralized power. The Supreme Court is increasingly targeting powerful people and institutions. And private media outlets have rapidly proliferated.

However, there are limits to this progress.

The most commonly cited obstacles to deeper democratization are the military, which continues to exert heavy influence over politics; a lack of pluralism and tolerance, which contributes to the deplorable plight of religious minorities; and the country’s abysmal law enforcement, which enables militants to operate with impunity.

Yet the tragedy in Thar underscores a more insidious and underreported threat to democracy: Astounding manifestations of land inequality.

In Sindh, a paltry 0.05 percent of households hold more than five acres of land (the figure is similar in Punjab, Pakistan’s most populous province). In the nation as a whole, 2 percent of households own nearly 50 percent of land, while 5 percent of agricultural households own nearly two thirds of Pakistan’s farmland.
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This means that the majority of the population holds little to no land. Without land, it’s difficult to access food and water (and it’s also difficult to earn a livelihood; landless Pakistanis make up 70 percent of the country’s rural poor). Most Pakistanis must depend on a tiny, wealthy landowning minority for access to these natural resources.**

**These resources, and the land that holds them, are becoming increasingly precious. According to one alarming estimate, Pakistan loses three acres of good agricultural land every 20 minutes. In Thar, land and natural resources are further imperiled by Islamabad’s plan to tap into the region’s vast coalfields to ease the country’s severe energy crisis. Officials insist there will be no deleterious impacts on local communities, but there’s good reason to fear that such exploitation could cause environmental distress and displacement, and deprive an impoverished region of a critical natural resource. These are very real problems in equally dry and poor Baluchistan, a province long subjected to intensive natural resource extractions by Islamabad and large corporations. Such conditions have helped fuel a long-running separatist insurgency.

In effect, millions of Pakistanis have neither the land to grow food nor the money to buy it. And yet little is done to help them. Landed rural elites—the essence of vested interests in Pakistan—seemingly spend more time blocking critical agricultural reforms (including those that would increase the tax base) than addressing the plight of the landless. They have also been accused of siphoning off irrigation water flows from poor farmers, and of diverting floodwaters away from their crops and into more vulnerable communities. What’s particularly troubling about all this is that these wealthy landowners are often politically connected, or politicians themselves (Sindh’s landed rural elite is a strong base of support for the Pakistan People’s Party, or PPP, which runs the Sindh government).**

Consider the strikingly blasé reactions of local officials to current conditions in Thar. Apparently unmoved by (or oblivious to) UNICEF’s warnings of a massive crisis, PPP leaders have described events of recent days as “normal” and “nothing new.” Sindh’s advocate general, speaking Monday at a hearing convened by Pakistan’s Supreme Court, expressed regret, but also appeared to lay the blame on parents for not taking their kids to the hospital.

Perhaps most egregious of all, after federal officials toured affected areas this week, Sindh’s government hosted a lavish buffet lunch featuring fried fish and biryani —“an act of such monumental stupidity and insensitivity,” according to one Pakistani editorial, “that it beggars belief.”

Call this heartlessness, or call it apathy. Many Pakistanis call it feudalism—the embodiment of a system in which imperious landed elites lord over their hapless subjects. One thing you can’t call it, however, is democracy. Yes, it’s an imperfect institution—but surely it doesn’t sanction such vast disparities in land ownership, or the type of leadership that seems unmoved by the humanitarian crises spawned by those disparities.

The takeaway here is that in Thar, people are dying because of deeply entrenched inequalities that make them profoundly food insecure and hyper-vulnerable to calamities—like drought and disease—that more fortunate people elsewhere can withstand and survive.

Ultimately, the dead and dying of Thar—just like slaughtered Shia Muslims, the military’s large political footprint, and state sponsorship of militancy—underscore the fact that despite considerable achievements in recent years, democracy in Pakistan remains a work in progress."

(Source: Pakistan)

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A very recent article .

Thar famine — a crisis of national security*History is witness to the fact that nations do not fail because of natural calamities, war, famine, pandemics or even climatic changes. Rather, failure is directly linked to the collapse of institutions*

Tharparkar has come under natural stress many times before, but never was there a collapse of local sustenance systems like what is going on today. Thar means desert and Parkar means the other side, a geographical oxymoron of sort. The other side by the way is very green — alluvial in fact. Minds and hands have converted Rajasthan into a green man-made area, thanks to the Indira Canal, water harvesting, research on xerophytes desert crops and Israeli help to India in desert husbandry.
Where are our friends? Do we have any? A man must be his own friend before calling to others. The same geography on both sides of the border, no rains there as well, yet in Indian Rajasthan, not even a gadfly died of famine. That is because it is apathy that is killing infants. Amartya Sen, the Nobel laureate from India, has proved in his research that no functional democracy can suffer a famine. According to him famines are man-made; it is apathy towards the affected area that creates the stresses leading to famine.
Nothing can be truer than this assertion that won him the Nobel Prize. Hold on, we have had a ‘functional’ democracy for at least the last six years. The previous dictator is in the dock, we have a cultural revival movement in Sindh, and we have had food surpluses for the last three years straight. With all these positive developments, why are the Thari people paying the price?There is a folk story that says present day Tharparkar was a sea and there was a saintly king of the area named Rishi; he worshipped for 10,000 years but after achieving moral and spiritual nirvana, he lost his spiritual invocations by touching a young girl while travelling on a boat. He prayed to God that the sea be turned to desert so that he could wander and ask for redemption. Then the sea was converted into desert and the Thari people are from his race (actually the desert is the result of massive tectonic movement of the Indian and Eurasian plates thousands of years ago but it’s a nice story anyway). This story was a piece of fiction till a couple of months ago when for the first time news of a pandemic amongst the flora and fauna emerged. The famed peacocks of Thar were dying, the natural springs and streams of Nagarparker were drying up, the snakes being prudent were reported to be migrating towards the Indian side. The fictional story of King Rishi came to life, the Thari people were once again abandoned to the forces of nature.
During the 17th century the Netherlands was the first country to eliminate famine by adopting smart agriculture, and the Americas were found in the search for new areas to forestall the failures of (potato) crops due to natural calamities. After that no European country has faced natural famine, the man-made potato-famine in Ireland notwithstanding. They have learnt to shift resources to eliminate the effects of food stresses. Ethiopia and Sudan suffered famines due to the absence of any type of institutions, not the shortage of food. In 1943, when Bengal faced famine, it was due to mismanagement at institutional levels. Botswana and Zimbabwe also came close to similar situations but averted them by creating short-term employment for the affected peoples.
Famine is actually caused by mismanagement in food distribution and not addressing poverty.
The story of 60,000 wheat bags for the Thari people is a vivid example. The local political economy of Tharparkar is based on herding, range land, and shrub forests of plants from the xerophytes family. Without understanding this, the problem cannot be addressed. The wheat will probably remain lying in warehouses and the children will continue to suffer. This represents a collapse of institutions, which cannot be undone by visits from high-profile political leaders, or by scolding public relations managers who could not control the spread of news about the famine. It will become a zero-sum game.
According to one estimate there were 241,326 housing units in the area in 1980. With a growth rate of 2.4 percent, this figure will be 383,297 housing units today. This is a catastrophe in the making on three accounts. First, food security is a cardinal principle of security for any nation or group of people. Societies don’t disintegrate when they are militarily attacked but when their food security is gone. History is witness to the fact that nations do not fail because of natural calamities, war, famine, pandemics or even climatic changes. Rather, failure is directly linked to the collapse of institutions.
Secondly Thar is at the cultural crossroads of the Sindhi, Rajasthani and Gujarati cultures. It is also rich in untapped minerals and natural resources. Indian offshore exploration is just across the Rann of Kutch. The religious site of Saroharo in Nagarparkar is one of the main religious sites of Hindus.
Thirdly, in modern concepts of security, human security is of paramount importance. Every catastrophe involving humans is now a security issue. Modern military strategy and the overall strategy of a country revolve around the concept of protecting people first, territory second. Those who invest in humans, reap rewards in hope and prosperity. Democracy is also a concept that focuses more on human agency rather than mere territory. The state cannot abandon, one by one, its own people — first those of Chilas and now the Tharis.

The visit of the prime minister is a good omen but the focus should have been on improving the local political economy of the Thari people rather than providing succour for the time being. The Thar Canal, Nara Canal and Mithi Canal, etc, all peter out in the desert. Canal command has to be improved with more spreading out towards the deep desert. But from where will the water come, when already big brother India is playing water games with us? If you need proof, gaze across the border and see the other Parkar (Indian Rajasthan) shining and lush green. If the Thari people are left to survive on their own after this famine, then nature will not spare the bystanders. Functional democracies have to function. They cannot abandon their functions if they hope to survive, and the primary function is to preserve and expand the quality of human life.

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^ that article is against your party… :hmmm: