Thanks God! Yaser Hameed is Dropped......

I realize that Yaser Hammed played some good innings for Pakistan in last 15 months but to keep the discussion in its perspective we have to realize that most of his scores were against minnows like BD and all of them were on home ground. He was a total failure in NZ, England, and Holland. I never liked his technique to start with. It was pretty pathetic to see Indian left arm spinner murli kartik tying him completely by bowling on middle and leg early this year in fourth ODI in Lahore. It was a scene to watch. Yaseer could not score for almost 30 balls and all balls were bowled on middle and leg. He was so frustrated that he finally lost his wicket. It was pretty obvious that the guy has some serious problems playing on the onside. At international level, this attitude was not acceptable.

Outside Pakistan, on seaming wickets, like any other Pakistani player, he is always helpless against the swing. He is an opener and he has to face the new swinging ball. In my humble opinion, yasir hammed does not possess enough technique to serve as an opener. He will be a total failure on bouncy wickets of Australia. I am glad that he has been dropped. We should also realize that yaseer hammed was given enough chances.

I know that he will be back in the final squad for Aussie tour but would that be a right step in right direction from long term stand point? Remember, a true character of a player especially an opener should not be gauged by his performance in his own backyard against minnows but it should be based on his performance in unfamiliar conditions abroad. After all, every team has to play 60 percent of its cricket outside its home grounds.

Actualy yasir hameed has not performed as badly as some of the other openers in our squad including farhat, nazir, taufiq and afridi. He had the misfortune of being forced into an opener position by team management which was not his natural position. You will remember that he performed much better in tests when taufiq omar and imran farhat were opening. Our team management should have persisted with that opening pair with yasir coming at number three. In my opinion he is a pure gem of a talent but with some major (but removable) flaws in his game. His drives and pulls are always a treat to watch

I will agree with you that he should be given a rest from international cricket due to his recent poor performance. But instead of just discarding him away, the time away from the team should be used in removing his technical flaws and building temperment. We finaly have a cricket academy setup in our country and we are paying heavy sums for foreign coaches then why not use them where it is needed most. I think that lossing a player like yasir will be big setback for pak cricket at this current rebuilding stage.

yasir did not perform bad at all, in my opinion....
he is by far the best opener we've had since saeed anwar....
we have no good reason to drop him....

bad decision....
farhat shud have been dropped instead....

You mean Yasir has been dropped and Imran not? What are those selectors smoking? :smack:

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Yasir Hameed:
TESTS
(including 28/10/2004)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 12 23 3 877 170 43.85 58.15 2 4 7 0

                  O      M     R    W    Ave   BBI    5  10    SR  Econ

Bowling 1 0 5 0 - - 0 0 - 5.00

ONE-DAY INTERNATIONALS
(including 16/10/2004)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 44 44 1 1671 127* 38.86 68.28 3 9 9 0

                  O      M     R    W    Ave   BBI   4w  5w    SR  Econ

Bowling 3 0 26 0 - - 0 0 - 8.66


Imran Nazir:

TESTS
(including 11/10/2002)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 8 13 0 427 131 32.84 58.49 2 1 4 0

                  O      M     R    W    Ave   BBI    5  10    SR  Econ

Bowling - - - - - - - - - -

ONE-DAY INTERNATIONALS
(including 29/07/2004)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 61 61 2 1392 105* 23.59 75.24 1 8 19 0

                  O      M     R    W    Ave   BBI   4w  5w    SR  Econ

Bowling 8.1 0 48 1 48.00 1-3 0 0 49.0 5.87


Imran Farhat:

TESTS
(including 28/10/2004)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 13 24 0 797 128 33.20 51.51 2 4 17 0

                  O      M     R    W    Ave   BBI    5  10    SR  Econ

Bowling 19.1 1 100 3 33.33 2-69 0 0 38.3 5.21

ONE-DAY INTERNATIONALS
(including 19/09/2004)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 21 21 1 686 107 34.30 72.97 1 4 7 0

                  O      M     R    W    Ave   BBI   4w  5w    SR  Econ

Bowling 13.5 2 85 5 17.00 3-10 0 0 16.6 6.14


Taufeeq Umar

TESTS
(including 13/04/2004)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 22 40 2 1610 135 42.36 45.53 4 9 32 0

                  O      M     R    W    Ave   BBI    5  10    SR  Econ

Bowling 11 2 36 0 - - 0 0 - 3.27

ONE-DAY INTERNATIONALS
(including 24/03/2004)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 18 18 1 444 81* 26.11 57.96 0 3 9 0

                  O      M     R    W    Ave   BBI   4w  5w    SR  Econ

Bowling 11 0 77 1 77.00 1-49 0 0 66.0 7.00

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Yasir:
Test Avg: 43.85
ODI Avg: 38.86

Imran Farhat:
Test Avg: 33.20
ODI Avg: 34.30

Taufeeq:
Test Avg: 42.36
ODI Avg: 26.11

Imran Nazir:
Test Avg: 32.84
ODI Avg: 23.59

Looking at the stats, i think Yasir has the best performance.. Taufeeq has good avg in Tests but NOT good enough in other form of the game.

I think Yasir is a well balanced player.. he is a future star of Pakistan and he will continue to perform..

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actually its not his stats, but his recent performance that got him axed....

what i was saying is that he's still better than the rest and shud not be dropped....

i mean farhat has had an equally bad time as well, so why not drop him instead....

and i thought taufiq was only good for tests....

farhat has been out longer n each n ever member fo the team should be axed once every few matches to remind htat he can be dropped at any time....

even uhana should go through this no matter he the vc..

inzi ever since being a captain is playing ood yes he has his bad days but who doesnt.. n yes he chokes at times speacially iun teh finals. .but he is learting as a captain.. wont be as good as Wasim or Imran.. but chalo they aint ehre we all gota do something... shoaib ko banay to woh to apnae over porae kar dae ga...

Re: Thanks God! Yaser Hameed is Dropped......

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*Originally posted by phoenixdesi: *
He was a total failure in NZ, England, and Holland.

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Sir jee, are you forgetting his match winning 80 odd in second test against NZL? tsk tsk :-p

He will be back and he will be back with a bang against Australia. He IS the find of so called rebuilding process and will be backto his best. He is going through a bad patch andi am sure he will emerge as a better and more restrained player after that.

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I agree with you on the most of the points. Watching Yasir is a terrible experience. Yesterday when he was playing, it was like he couldn’t even understand the ball coming to him. So many times there were thick edges on swinging balls and lots of use of pad due to missing. Thats a gali ka larka standard not an international player standard by all means. I don’t know why he is so panic on the wicket, never looks comfortable.

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inzi ever since being a captain is playing ood yes he has his bad days but who doesnt.. n yes he chokes at times speacially iun teh finals. .but he is learting as a captain..
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Inzi, choking...hmm i dont think so. Ever since the beginning he has always, performed in crucial situations. Pressure always brings out the best in him. Be it WC92 or that one test match against Bangladesh, he saved single handedly, or the Karachi match against Australia, in which he put up a record partnership with Mushtaq Ahmad to win the match. Pressure is what Inzamam lives on, he is far from being a choker. One of the coolest batsman of recent times.

Sharaabi: The test match Inzi saved against Bangladesh was not as a CAPTAIN, Rashid Latif was the captain then. So far he has shown choking signs in crucial ODIs i.e. semis (ASIA cup, ICCCT), finals (Video Con).

i thought this was supposed to be about yasir hameed. inzi and wasim bari have conflicting statements as mentioned by cricinfo . but i think he was dropped but this gives him to rest and get back into his old form. he'll definetly be back for the australian tour because he is probably the best opener we have right now.

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*Originally posted by saby: *

He will be back and he will be back with a bang against Australia. He IS the find of so called rebuilding process and will be backto his best. He is going through a bad patch andi am sure he will emerge as a better and more restrained player after that.
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app kay munh may ghee shakkar if he performs well in aus but honestly speaking i dont see this happening....aussies gonna eat him like a breakfast donut especially if he keeps on playing as an opener......Aussies are known for doing a thorough homework....and all they need to do for yasir is to bowl him couple of balls outside off stump swinging away from him and he will be caught in slip.....

and how could you defend yasir's inability to play on Onside..did you watch that fourth ODI in lahore against India when murli kartik caught his leg ( in lahore we say, bowler nay uss kee tang pakar lee)........it was obvious that ganguly and john Wright did a good homework and they realized yaser's weakness on the onside....ganguly instructed murli kartik to bowl yaseer every thing on middle and leg stump...and yseer bahi was just choked.....and it has happened many times after that....i agree that he plays some wonderful cover drives and square cuts but as soon as you start bowling him on middle and leg, he simply chocks....

and yarr, it is not only yasir hameed who fails abroad.....we have not produced any world class player batsman after inzi (may be yoyo.)..all new players are pathetic outside Pakistan on seaming wickets....but lets stick to yasir in this thread....

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*Originally posted by saby: *

Sir jee, are you forgetting his match winning 80 odd in second test against NZL? tsk tsk :-p

He will be back and he will be back with a bang against Australia. He IS the find of so called rebuilding process and will be backto his best. He is going through a bad patch andi am sure he will emerge as a better and more restrained player after that.
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hell yea watch all these people who are cursing him now will be riding him when he is back Inshallahh!!!! and if he is not picked for aussie tour i will not watch that tour at all!!!

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I still believe that Yasir will be back when Pakistan team tour Down Under, there is no way they would flip/flop.

but in all honesty, he needs to improve.

P.S: Razzaq had a rough period but yet he delievered in the last game (2nd Test). Atleast Yasir was scoring 30-45 odd.

Yasir Hameed is very talented player and I am sure he wil lbe recalled for the Aussie tour. but I am disappointed that Yasir hasnt learnt from his mistake or hasnt improved as much as he should have since he came into the national side.. If you look at both Yasir and Shaoib Malik, I think Malik has improved tremendously and impressed everyone with his performances, whereas Yasir is still same as he was 1 year ago and keeps repeating same mistakes again and again and keeps throwing his wicket regularly. I hope dropping him will do him some good and he will learn and improve himself, cuz he is good.. Plus I think he is a good #3 batsman so we need to stop sending him as an opener and try him at #3.

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*Originally posted by Pakistanee: *
Yasir Hameed is very talented player and I am sure he wil lbe recalled for the Aussie tour. but I am disappointed that Yasir hasnt learnt from his mistake or hasnt improved as much as he should have since he came into the national side.. If you look at both Yasir and Shaoib Malik, I think Malik has improved tremendously and impressed everyone with his performances, whereas Yasir is still same as he was 1 year ago and keeps repeating same mistakes again and again and keeps throwing his wicket regularly. I hope dropping him will do him some good and he will learn and improve himself, cuz he is good.. Plus I think he is a good #3 batsman so we need to stop sending him as an opener and try him at #3.
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i agree with everything u said excpet sending him as an #3 batsman. shoaib malik has done really well in the 1 down position and he should be kept there. you don't wanna disturb his form. Also we r lacking openers and i think he is the best we have right now.

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i agree with everything u said excpet sending him as an #3 batsman. shoaib malik has done really well in the 1 down position and he should be kept there. you don't wanna disturb his form. Also we r lacking openers and i think he is the best we have right now.
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i'm talking about ODI that is. test matches are a whole different story. but they should also try malik at #3 in the test. it might work out for the better.

i hope this is not the end of yasir, he is very talented player :k:

it's a brave and bold decision that i totally agree with, yasir hasn't been flourishing with the bat, let's not kid ourselves we all know wat the stats' say... this will give him a chance to reflect on the flaws in hid batting technique and build his game again for the aussie tour...

i'm delighted to see taufs' back in contention a very good driver of the ball. where in god's name is shabeera??? he was apparently going to be fit for the sri lanka test series!!!!