Re: Terrorists storm Peshawar school, Scores of students killed
Not suits to a PM , This is general public view like me وزیر اعظم کو دہشتگردوں کو چن چن کر نشانہ بنانے کا حکم‘ فضائیہ کے ہواباز دہشتگردوں کو نشانہ بناتے وقت سانحہ پشاور کو سامنے رکھیں‘نواز شریف
**19 دسمبر 2014
اسلام آباد(قدرت نیوز)وزیر اعظم نواز شریف نے دہشتگردوں کو چن چن کر نشانہ بنانے کی ہدایت کی ہے ، انہوں نے کہا کہ اپنے بچوں کے قاتلوں کو اب اس سرزمین پر ٹکنے نہیں دینگے،وزیر اعظم نواز شریف سے ایئرچیف مارشل طاہر رفیق بٹ نے اسلام آباد میں ملاقات کی اور دہشتگردوں کیخلاف فضائی حملوں کے حوالے سے بریفنگ دی، پاک فضائیہ کے سربراہ نے گزشتہ روز وادی تیراہ میں کی گئی کارروائیوں سے متعلق بھی وزیر اعظم کو آگاہ کیا۔ ذرائع کے مطابق وزیر اعظم نواز شریف نے ایئرچیف کو ہدایت کی کہ دہشتگردوں کو چن چن کر نشانہ بنایا جائے، وزیر اعظم نے کہا کہ اپنے بچوں کے قاتلوں کو اب اس سرزمین پر ٹکنے نہیں دینگے، معصوم بچوں کے قاتلوں سے خون کے ایک ایک قطرے کا حساب لیا جائے گا۔ انہوں نے کہا کہ پاک فضائیہ ملکی دفاع میں ریڑھ کی ہڈی کی حیثیت رکھتی ہے، پاک فضائیہ کے ہواباز دہشتگردوں کو نشانہ بناتے وقت سانحہ پشاور کو سامنے رکھیں۔
Re: Terrorists storm Peshawar school, Scores of students killed
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Pakistan Massacre Organizer Vows More KillingsTaliban Chief Says Deaths Are in Response to Military Offensive in the North
By SYED SHOAIB HASAN
KARACHI, Pakistan—The self-proclaimed organizer of the siege that killed 132 schoolchildren this week in the Pakistani city of Peshawar vowed in a video message Thursday that his fighters would attack more schools and hit other civilian targets.
Khalifa Omar Mansoor, named by the Pakistani Taliban as the man who organized the attack, appeared in a short video that was uploaded to a site used by the militants for distributing…
Re: Terrorists storm Peshawar school, Scores of students killed
so genius tell me some thing.
Russia had like 10 state he had taken by force , he took over afghanistan, what was jee eem sayed’s plan
if russia had decided to take over balochistan ???
Re: Terrorists storm Peshawar school, Scores of students killed
The war is ongoing for 14 years already and without any results. Its time that we should start using brain and not over react. Hosh say kaam lena hay Josh say nahi. I am very sure that this conflict has no military solution. The more pressure Pakistan army exerts, the more spring back action from TTP is expected.
The only way forward is that both groups should drop down their weapons or at least agree on some rules of engagement that they will not target each other families and kids.
TTP have said umpteen times that they will not give up weapons/fighting till their sharia version is implemented, now if you still believe they will be peaceful once we "drop" our weapons then you can tell us how many times a human needs to let himself bitten by snake to believe snake will always bite? The only snake that will "listen" to you is the one whose poison has been removed. Our country has tried "negotiations" "peace" with these snakes way too many times but they have proven all those times that they are not trust worthy.
A Conflict is a conflict and reasons could be social, ethnic or religious. It is best if the conflicts are solved without going to wars. Pakistan at the moment has disturbances in both KPK and in Baluchistan. The Population of Baluchs is approximately 7 million and that of the tribal area in KPK is about 3,341,070 people, or roughly 2% of Pakistan's population, its not advisable to wage war on a population of millions. I think we need to change strategy and** win hearts and minds of the people instead of using the hard military solution.
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The population of 3.3 million is not against Pakistan, mind you.
Re: Terrorists storm Peshawar school, Scores of students killed
Mere aanso jo ruk gayee theee. In pics ko dekh kar phir jari ho gayee hain. I feel these pics are needed to remind our nation what we have gone through. What we can go through ( God forbid ) in future if these dogs of hell remain intact.
Our Ulema hw are very famous of kicking out people from daera e islam on a minutest of issues why not stragiht away announce them and any of their even moral supporter to be Murted and Wajib ul qatl.... It is clear that they are not following the preaching of Muhammad ( PBUH )
My thoughts initially, but then...I suggest for a more direct approach with history firmly in my mind.
The Khawarij, for example. They were muslim. They were given proper funerals, their inheritance distributed in the proper manner. But the point is, it was incumbent upon those Muslims who obeyed the Caliph, and did not fall astray, to kill the deviants. All. Without question and with only one condition: FALL IN LINE. Come back to the fold. Or else.
I do propose this same zero sum binary with the TTP. It is the Islamic way. It is our history. We need no Ulema to proclaim this or vet this thought any more than we need them to approve of us saying fatiha in our salat. We all need to fall in line. The TTP is opting for the "or else" option. So be it.
Their blood is Halal. Why is this not apparent or clear to everybody? I do not know.
Re: Terrorists storm Peshawar school, Scores of students killed
But the problem I am focusing on is how we are ignoring the killing of ALL innocents and in addition after this attack by them we are ready to do the same to them and their families ... I see no difference in mindset - the Pakistanis on the whole are no different to the TTP.
These are appropriate sentiments and I have no idea why you were browbeaten for them.
To be oblivious, or even clueless, to such moral nuances is not at all being akin to the TTP. They plotted to kill children...a line was crossed. I could wager that ONLY the TTP and their ilk think this way, and it sets them apart from the rest of Pakistan. Which makes proclamations such as I made in my previous post all too easy, and to my mind, obvious...one cannot be a member of TTP and be innocent. To reclaim innocence, it must mean the renunciation of the TTP.
We get into the larger discussion of strategy and the human cost of conducting war, but that is at this juncture a side point. It does not eliminate the necessity of war, or the clarity of the goal.
But to be clear, though I take it for granted that every member of TTP and their sympathizers must be killed, I have no clear idea how this can be done without the loss of innocent lives. I will NOT sweep that under the rug...and it is *of paramount importance to conduct ourselves in thought and deed that distinguishes us from the animals we fight. But for now, we need to be clear on what the *goals are.
Re: Terrorists storm Peshawar school, Scores of students killed
What does this term "khwarij" refer to ? What does it mean? Never heard of it till recently.
During a conflict on the Issue of Qisas of 3rd Caliph of Islam, A war broke out between Syedna Ali (RZA) and Syedna Ameer Moaviya (RZA), Long story short, the two sat on negotiation table and then finalized the agreement, few Muslims who were there didn't agreed to it and decided to teach lesson to both, they attacked Both leaders and managed to Kill Syedna Ali (RZA)..
after that they regrouped and unleashed hell on Islamic world, it took decades to defeat them. Their major believes were that they are the muslims and rest have left the path of Islam hence are Wajib-ul-Qatal, they were finally defeated By a general of Hajaj Bin Yousaf.
but that was not the end. Soon after another movement started, it was known as Qaramta Movement their believes are more closer to what we see in DAASH of Syria and Iraq. It is ok for them to have s e x with any women and it is ok to kill anyone not from their religiion.. Lasts of Qaramta Movement were erased by Mehmood of Ghanzi in Multan.
Talibans and DAASH are just an advanced version of these movements. they are to eliminated, their sympathizers should be made an example for others... if we don't do that, we'll never be able to eliminate the menace.
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Govt seem to be taking swift actions against them in their area, but what is more important is to locate their handlers in the settled area of Pakistan and kill them as well..
Start with the Mullas of Hate Speech... they are well known
and we, as a nation can refuse to go to Juma Prayer and contribute to their charity and listen to their sermon...
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Expecting justice or GOVT REACTION on PESHAWAR incident is recurring-delusion. What do you think?
**2 YEARS AGO Recalling QUETTA
**Hazara protesters refuse to bury dead bodies
QUETTA: The Hazara Shia protesters have refused to bury the dead bodies of the people killed in Saturday’s suicide attack, despite long negotiations with officials of the Balochistan Government.
The officials held a series of meetings but failed to convince the angry protesters to call off their strike.
“Until our demands are met, we will continue our protest,” said Syed Dawood Agha, the President Balochistan Shia Conference.
“We will not bury the 84 dead bodies and continue our protest,” Agha said.
He demanded that targeted operation by the Pakistan Army must be conducted against terrorists since civilian law enforcers have failed to provide protection to Shia Muslims.
In sub-zero temperature, Hazara women started their protest in Hazara Town area of Quetta to mourn the killings.
“We will continue the protest until the terrorist gang is busted,” one of the protesters said.
She said the ethnic Hazaras have decided in principle not to bury the dead, since the government was paying mere lip service to them.
Despite chilly weather, women and children on the road continued with their protest.
Re: Terrorists storm Peshawar school, Scores of students killed
I am remembering the atrocities on the Hazara population during this time as well, and also the 50K Pakistanis including minorities such as Christians and Hindus whose lives were lost because of these terrorists.
Until we muslims accept that this is NOT part of our deen, such indiscriminate killings, the world will not be at peace.
However, mullahs will not let change happen. Below shows evil mullahs of pakistan
don’t want their madrassas investigated or regulated, well, how much are they hiding?
advocate AGAINST death penalthy stating it is not Islamic. Last I checked, in Islam, penalty for a murderer is execution. Execution by the state, which sorry animals of Satan, Pakistan is a muslim state.
