We can learn at least few things form Indians. Be outraged, very outraged. Light candles, plead to the world, and threaten every little Madrassah or mosque that could have been the source of such attacks.
Indians used to commit massive killings and riots. Lately they have become better at that. I hope they remain so.
Coming back to attacks on Marriot, and Wah factory, we can see that the rage is absent. One of them of the symbol of our defense industry, and the other a symbol of hospitality. Both were attacked. One was completely ruined, while other other sustained huge casualties among our defense industry workers.
The same thing is true when Militants create massive damage to our infrastructure. Wide scale areas in FATA and Punjab have been taken over by anti-state elements and they continue to dare us with their cruel, inhumane, and barbarous methods.
They have burned our girls schools, kidnapped our officials, and murdered our army jawans. The process that was started by Sufi Mohammad in the 1990s is still going on. And yet any kind of concern about terrorism is totally absent.
Why there is no rage against terrorist outfits at public level. Why we are not demanding from our government to dismantle mosques and madrassah that may have even a small part in the terror activities.
And if terrorists are coming from other countries such as Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, or the Middle East, why we are not sending strong signals to their governments?
Simply coz our government dont have the balls to stand up! I swear if i was in Zardari place than i wouldve made a huge difference!!!
Yeah that is a valid point. Government do what they want to do.
However the main thrust of this thread is the "public outrage". If there is a public outrage about these terrorists then our government may be pressured to do something about it.
One possibility is that we lack public outrage and that's why the government doesn't act. Indians have shown public (and so far peaceful) outrage at Mumbai carnage. Where is its equivalent in Pakistan. And let's not get into excuses about democracy etc.
As it is Pakistanis can potentially show a lot of public outrage.
Our borders and our writ of the law has been challenged since 1990s by uncouth tribals such as Sufi Mohammad. So where is our emotional outbursts against him?
Yeah that is a valid point. Government do what they want to do.
However the main thrust of this thread is the "public outrage". If there is a public outrage about these terrorists then our government may be pressured to do something about it.
One possibility is that we lack public outrage and that's why the government doesn't act. Indians have shown public (and so far peaceful) outrage at Mumbai carnage. Where is its equivalent in Pakistan. And let's not get into excuses about democracy etc.
As it is Pakistanis can potentially show a lot of public outrage.
Our borders and our writ of the law has been challenged since 1990s by uncouth tribals such as Sufi Mohammad. So where is our emotional outbursts against him?
The people of Pakistan are outraged. Talk to the people and hear their views. Everyone hates the foreigners(be it the americans or the tribals) encroaching on our country. I am kind of mystified by why the outrage has not spilled over to the streets.
hmmmm
interesting. I think I THINK, its because we think "terrorist" as our own ppl?
where inda looks at them as pakis coming and hitting them.
Even if we think of terrorists as our own people, still if they start killing us, don't think we will not be mad at them. A terrorist is a terrorist, just like a killer is a killer.
Wrong,we are not standing up, our Gov only did this coz we came under intense pressure! We are doing this to please US, Our awaam needs to stand up and show some courage, only than we will make a difference!
Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - What we can learn from Indians
We can learn how to let 10 men hold off the police force, military, special units and other such intelligence apparatus for 60 hours. That was truly brilliant.
Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - What we can learn from Indians
Mamaof3, do not assume things just by reading the news... :) our government can't do crap because they have their own pockets to worry about. They will bring Pakistan to war, no matter what happens. insh'Allah this won't happen. We should learn something from "jihadis" too, the courage that they have we should instill!
We can learn how to let 10 men hold off the police force, military, special units and other such intelligence apparatus for 60 hours. That was truly brilliant.
We can learn how to let 10 men hold off the police force, military, special units and other such intelligence apparatus for 60 hours. That was truly brilliant.
You are right, but i still get a feeling that it was a set up game, India knew it was coming but yet they didnt do anything about it so that later on they can blame pakistan and ask US & the rest of the world to pressure Paksitan to strike against Jihadis,
You are right, but i still get a feeling that it was a set up game, India knew it was coming but yet they didnt do anything about it so that later on they can blame pakistan and ask US & the rest of the world to pressure Paksitan to strike against Jihadis,
It's bigger than that. How can some fishermen (cuz they came in a fishing trawler) how can they, cross the patrolled waters without being noticed. It's all setup and Indians have been used by the Zionists. Indians in their blind hatred obviously will not understand this, and the zionists knew that, which is why they have done this, so they can setup Pakistan, and continue with their evil plans. Insh'Allah this won't happen!!!
It's bigger than that. How can some fishermen (cuz they came in a fishing trawler) how can they, cross the patrolled waters without being noticed. It's all setup and Indians have been used by the Zionists. Indians in their blind hatred obviously will not understand this, and the zionists knew that, which is why they have done this, so they can setup Pakistan, and continue with their evil plans. Insh'Allah this won't happen!!!
Exactly! And India cant even make up a proper story, simple idiots will believe them...
"poor fishermen get caught every day, but these armed terrorist floated along the water and no one noticed it"??? Truly Pathetic! It is a big setup but InshAllah they wont succeed in their evil plan!
Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - What we can learn from Indians
Our country cannot be outraged because most of our people do not WANT to believe that fellow Muslims can kill them. That is why we spend our efforts cooking up connections to Mossad/RAW/CIA when it is clear that it is Pakistan jihadis who are doing most of the mayhem. We have a national Stockholm Syndrome and we would rather surrender to jihadis than to confront them. This is why we saw 300 soldiers surrender to 20 jihadis when the same soldiers would have fought to their last drop of blood if it were Indians attacking them. We are country in denial.
...........we are not standing up, .....Our awaam needs to stand up and show some courage, only than we will make a difference!
Thank you. This is exactly the point of this thread.
...........our Gov only did this coz we came under intense pressure!.....!
Right on again!
Our Government doesn't have support from us the awaam to take stern action against terrorists.
BTW government inaction is pretty typical and common among almost all the governments. They move when people get outraged on an issue. Politicians / leaders all over the world want the same routine day in and day out. So they sit around.
However the power of people forces these politicians to change their attitude and their policies.
And as you said
....Our awaam needs to stand up and show some courage, only than we will make a difference!.
Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - What we can learn from Indians
Parda Ji
Let India fire a missile in Pakistan and see how much the public is outraged. Indians are outraged coz terror activity its linked to a traditional enemy.
How much were Indians outraged when their own people killed thousands of fellow Indians in Gujrat? They made the prime killer chief minister in the very next elections.
Our country cannot be outraged because most of our people do not WANT to believe that fellow Muslims can kill them. That is why we spend our efforts cooking up connections to Mossad/RAW/CIA when it is clear that it is Pakistan jihadis who are doing most of the mayhem. We have a national Stockholm Syndrome and we would rather surrender to jihadis than to confront them. This is why we saw 300 soldiers surrender to 20 jihadis when the same soldiers would have fought to their last drop of blood if it were Indians attacking them. We are country in denial.
Makes you think.