Dear Child, right above my post is a thingy that says "profile". ^^
Attempt to read it.
I don’t belive in patriotism or any ism such as nationalism these are similar to instincts of animals. As a muslim i cannot accept such ideas.
People who are quote nationalistic or patriotic they become heated and they rally around a flag or piece of land or colour of skin or a tribe.
This leads to hatred of others who are not of the same flag, piece of land or skin colour. The nationalistic or patriotic bond is a very primative bond that should be avoided.
As for question of dissent if people are not happy with a system dissent will become natural. You have something close to 40 million americans living in poverty so i don’t think you should be surprised of dissent!
40 million americans live in poverty
ak47, yet rallying around a set of religious beliefs is somehow different? Rather hypercritical, unless you're calling that animalistic to.
The poverty level in the U.S. needs to attention, but I don’t think that’s where the dissent comes from, it comes from having the freedom of choice, the heart of democracy.
Freedom of Choice!
You missed one word 'controlled'. Freedom of Controlled Choice!
Getting back to the thread.
Everyone and anyone bar American, British and Israelis are labelled as terrorists and wait for it....................Islamists! ( Where the fcuk did that one come from).
The reality is, would a thief ever call himself a thief. No.
So how can the Disunited States of America and Isnotreal call themselves State Terrorists?
Funny you should ask,
Re: i see
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I'm going to assume you either did not read all of the posts I've left, (because if you had, you'd realise that I DO plan on leaving, and I do NOT hate democracy, I hate amerika and amerikans) or you're just a computer geek wo wants to pick a fight over the internet because you know you're safe in mommy's basement.
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I'll quit needling. Why are you here now? You never answered the question that pertained to the "USA unfortunately" part on your profile. Have you come from elsewhere? Or are you just looking for a change?
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ak47, yet rallying around a set of religious beliefs is somehow different? Rather hypercritical, unless you're calling that animalistic to.
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Yet again you have shown your weakness about the knowledge of islam.
Islam is based on the ideas not on the emotion like patriotism/ nationalism is.
Islam is a set of ideas that emenates from allah(swt) given to the people by messenger muhammad(saw) and it has a method. These ideas are based on the reality and are permanent they do not go up or down like nationalism bond which is totally emotional.
Nationalism is an emotional bond between individuals of specific ethnicity. It is a prejudice tribal bond that emanates from the instinct of survival and the drive for superiority. It is not fit to bind humans or unify them on any thought. Wh ile progress requires the elevation of thinking level in society, Nationalism is thoughtless. It does not have a system of live, thus it is invalid for progress.
what does nationalism say about the level of food harvests for the year 2004 as an example the answer is NOTHING it is an emotional bond with no thought behind it.
Capitalism is an ideology based on the idea of compromise and it has a methodology and thought behind it, this started in the days when the church and state where seperated and the compromise arose from this.
You should realise the difference and give a little thought before you make rushed comments.
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Dear Child, right above my post is a thingy that says "profile". ^^
Attempt to read it.
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what the hell? rhode island? that's not ohio
pardon my posting... I know that I shouldn't post outride of the subject area.
rhode island? that's not ohio
What a genius....
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This leads to hatred of others who are not of the same flag, piece of land or skin colour. The nationalistic or patriotic bond is a very primative bond that should be avoided.
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While some may claim superiority for their religion as 'reality' or 'God's Word', the truth is that many use it in the same way you describe nationalism with motives and consequences just as impure. Religion has been the cause of more violence than anything else.
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I don't belive in patriotism or any ism such as nationalism these are similar to instincts of animals. As a muslim i cannot accept such ideas.
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patriotism, nationalism..... hitlerism. you are correct, my friend, nationalism and patriotism is similar to animal instinct -- territorialism, etc.
And besides being ideas of subhuman, even subprimative intelligence, nationalism and patritotism are merely euphemisms for arrogance which I have always equated with ingorance.
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nationalism and patritotism are merely euphemisms for arrogance which I have always equated with ingorance.
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Always, huh. So, say from 15-19 you have equated patriotism a merely a euphemism for arrogance. Sage....tremedously sage.
Clean up your room!
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While some may claim superiority for their religion as 'reality' or 'God's Word', the truth is that many use it in the same way you describe nationalism with motives and consequences just as impure. Religion has been the cause of more violence than anything else.
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Islam is based on basis of thought and ideas not on bond of flag, color or emotion etc you should read what i typed not what you want to read.
Islam is a correct belief it does not belive in superiority over people or discriminate like the nationalistic or patriotic primative bonds do. For example as a muslim i don't have a problem with jews, xstians, chinese, etc even in time of war i cannot for example start persecuting these people because of there colour or belief.
as for the old false statement religion causes war or since you refering question to me i can relate to islam only.
World War 1 & 2 what religion was that about
Veitnam War what religion was that about
Gulf War what oil oops i mean religion was that about
dum bass
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Always, huh. So, say from 15-19 you have equated patriotism a merely a euphemism for arrogance. Sage....tremedously sage.
Clean up your room!
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I will not dignify your nescience with anymore of a reply than this: get bent.
exactly
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Islam is based on basis of thought and ideas not on bond of flag, color or emotion etc you should read what i typed not what you want to read.
Islam is a correct belief it does not belive in superiority over people or discriminate like the nationalistic or patriotic primative bonds do. For example as a muslim i don't have a problem with jews, xstians, chinese, etc even in time of war i cannot for example start persecuting these people because of there colour or belief.
as for the old false statement religion causes war or since you refering question to me i can relate to islam only.
World War 1 & 2 what religion was that about
Veitnam War what religion was that about
Gulf War what oil oops i mean religion was that about
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They only wars that I really relate islam to are the crusades, though those were essentially roman in origin.
WWI - not about religion, about expansion, revenge, nationalism.
WWII - not about religion, about expansion.
Vietnam - not about religion, about sovereignty, us-corporate imperialism.
Gulf War - not about religion, about sovereignty, us need to flex long-rested military muscle.
Iraq War - partially religion, partially oil, partially us-corporate imperialism, etc.