Re: Terror attack stopped in London; Bomb found, defused.
There are some who still don't believe that muslims are involved in any violent act. How do you solve a problem that some don't even want to acknowledge exits? Not an easy question to answer.
Re: Terror attack stopped in London; Bomb found, defused.
first of all, musharraf came into play recently, there were plenty of ppl in leadership before him who did not do anything.
I am not quite sure which 'foriegn' forces urged Pakistan to wage a proxy war in Indian occupied kashmir, nor did anyone force Pakistan to install and support Taleban.
Nor do I know of any foriegh forces that forced Pakistan to let groups liek sipah e sahaba and sipah e muhammad go unchecked for decades.
I also dont know of any foriegn forces that are forcing pakistani govt to allow MMA folks to preside over militant madrassa graduations..even to this day.
Pir ji, Musharaff came into play recently. Do you think that Bibi or Nawaz were elected without the blessings of US?
Proxy wars in Indian Kashmir can be linked to Sindhu Desh movement (of course sponsored by our lovely neighbor), Baluchi uprising (again our neighbor).
Really so you think those groups were not used to recruit and supply so called "mujahedeens" and taleban later on. Remember taleban only fell out of favor after 9/11.
I agree with your last point, Pakistan can and should do a better job of shutting these madrassas down.
Re: Terror attack stopped in London; Bomb found, defused.
right so if India was launching its proxy wars as baloch and sindhi nationalism, this did not mean Pakistan had to use the militant former afghan mujahideen network. but it did and it has no one to blame for that but itself, when that moron babar helped prop up Taleban, again it was what the govt thought they wanted to do. no one was forcing them, they oicked that option.
anyways thats a whole diff topic, the trash pakistanis who somehow made it to UK needed to do a better job of containing their kids and actually helping them rather than making them social outcasts, and as I have written somewhere the groups like HT,. mohajroun and ghuraba have been brainwashing outcast kids for decades, and all calls by ppl including muslims most of all, to ban these groups have fallen on deaf ears.
so UK has a huge blame to shoulder as well.
the kids families, UK and then last Pakistan to me that is the order of blame. not including things like militant groups like HT, shortsighted mosques that took their time before bannign Ht types from theri premises etc etc. they can be sprinkled in the middle somwhere
Re: Terror attack stopped in London; Bomb found, defused.
**UK terror plot: Indian doctor arrested **
July 3, 2007
Melbourne: An Indian doctor has been arrested and another physician is being questioned by police in connection with the foiled terror attacks in London and Glasgow, Australian Prime Minister John Howard said today.
“The first person taken into custody is an Indian national who came to Australia sponsored by the Queensland (state) health department,” Howard told reporters in Canberra.
“The 27-year-old doctor, who was a registrar at the Gold Coast hospital in eastern Queensland state, was arrested by counter-terrorism police at Brisbane International Airport last night, where he was trying to board a flight with one-way ticket,” Attorney General Philip Ruddock earlier said.
It is understood the doctor was headed for India via the Malaysian capital Kuala Lumpur, on a one-way air ticket, but had not resigned from his job at the Gold Coast Hospital.
“No charges have been filed yet,” he said, adding “the man was now assisting police with their inquiries.”
The arrest takes the number of suspects detained in the UK terror plot to eight - including five doctors or other medical personnel and all appear to be aged in their late 20s.
“There were suggestions from the UK that in the context of their investigations there was some interest in (a) person abroad,” Ruddock said.
Police executed a number of search warrants in south-east Queensland, including at the hospital in Southport, after the man’s arrest, Ruddock said.
Queensland Premier Beater Beattie said the man began working at the Gold Coast Hospital in September 2006 after seeing a job advertisement in the British Medical Journal. Before coming to Queensland, the man had been working in Liverpool, England.
The second doctor being questioned also came from Liverpool, Beattie said.
Queensland Police Commissioner Bob Atkinson said no explosive material had been found.
But it is understood their emails have been seized. Ruddock said no change had been made to Australia’s terror alert level, which remained at medium.
“While these matters are obviously of concern, there is no information that suggests the terror alert at medium should be varied,” Ruddock said.
“When I use those words I use them very deliberately because what it means is that while a terrorist attack could certainly be possible in Australia, we have no specific information about any such planned action here.”
Beattie said there was no specific threat to Queensland, which is due to host high-level meetings of APEC trade and finance ministers this month.
Re: Terror attack stopped in London; Bomb found, defused.
Originally Posted by mercenary2k http://www.paklinks.com/gs/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
ever wonder why BNP only targets Pakistanis and not Indians
For some1 who calls himself a ‘mercenary’ you sure as hell don’t know anything about how organisations/gangs work. For one thing the bnp target muslims, they dont discriminate between pakistani, arab or somalian. Indians (sikhs/hindus) are not in the immediate picture for 2 reasons, firstly they do not have any greviances with western countries, & therefore don’t have a negative image in the eyes of the british people. Not that this would make the bnp fond of them rather than make it almost impossible to come up with negative propaganda to rally the troops.
Secondly, the bnp don’t find neither the hindus or the sikhs any threat to their ideology as both communities are more than willing to ASSIMILATE with the natives losing their culture & inevitably their identities…they share the same goal…wealth.
Don’t get me wrong, i’m totally for integration, but there’s a limit to what price i’m willing to pay to achieve it, as for those psycho’s carrying out the attacks, we all have to remember that there’s evil on all sides & their all to blame, they all need eradicating, & whats with this arab vs paki thing, again, both share some blame, the dodgy mullahs come from both pak & saudi, alot of funding of these madrassa’s comes from saudi aswell as does the ideology.. wahabbism etc… the worlds a mess.
Re: Terror attack stopped in London; Bomb found, defused.
Australian prosecutors have dropped terror charges against the Indian doctor. This is indeed good news for the innocent man.
Re: Terror attack stopped in London; Bomb found, defused.
Pir ji, Musharaff came into play recently. Do you think that Bibi or Nawaz were elected without the blessings of US? ** Proxy wars in Indian Kashmir can be linked to Sindhu Desh movement (of course sponsored by our lovely neighbor)**, Baluchi uprising (again our neighbor). Really so you think those groups were not used to recruit and supply so called "mujahedeens" and taleban later on. Remember taleban only fell out of favor after 9/11. I agree with your last point, Pakistan can and should do a better job of shutting these madrassas down.
Don't mean to get into this conversation midway between you and fraudiabhai but can I please have a legitimate and unbiased source for linking the Sindhu Desh movement to the proxy war in Indian Kashmir being sponsored by India. By "our lovely neighbor", i'm assuming you mean India ,if I misunderstood, sorry. Thanks.
Re: Terror attack stopped in London; Bomb found, defused.
Secondly, the bnp don't find neither the hindus or the sikhs any threat to their ideology as both communities are more than willing to ASSIMILATE with the natives losing their culture & inevitably their identities....they share the same goal....wealth. Don't get me wrong, i'm totally for integration, but there's a limit to what price i'm willing to pay to achieve it, as for those psycho's carrying out the attacks, we all have to remember that there's evil on all sides & their all to blame, they all need eradicating, & whats with this arab vs paki thing, again, both share some blame, the dodgy mullahs come from both pak & saudi, alot of funding of these madrassa's comes from saudi aswell as does the ideology.. wahabbism etc....... the worlds a mess.
I disagree with you opinion here.
It's true that the British don't find Hindus and Sikhs a threat to their values, but the reason is that the Hindus/Sikhs do not want to force their beliefs on others. We believe that there are more than one way to find the Truth and thats why we are not afraid of change. Hindus are not loosing their identities. Now more and more people are learning about Hindu way of thinking and are making it part of their lives. The best part is that they can do it without converting.
You say you are totally for integration. BUT it should be your way. This thinking is totally absurd and cannot lead to anywhere. "**There is a limit to what price you are willing to pay"? **Brother, they did not invite you come to their country. Think about this - If the westeners start flocking to your country in the same numbers how will they be treated. I can't imagine that they would be treated any better.