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Nvm
Indian source off course!
One cannot even hear what Mr. Choudhary is saying and her voice is so clear and loud. Another way of muffling the voice?
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^^ Another dodgy explanation by a guy in denial.
I kind of don't have much motivation to debate point by point after what I've seen here. After so many proofs if you still come up explanations like you have I don't think there is any point of me throwing some more facts at yo
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^Facts? Ok buddy you keep yourself in illusion of telling 'facts'.
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I must say that I have been very impressed with what Marvi Memon had to say about this issue on GEO TV. Kudos to her!
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BTW, Even the US Investigation team has said their own results are that there is definitive Pakistani involvement which is why the US officials have told Pakstan to get on with it.
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^I thought you were not going to bring old stuff!
Have been warned by the mods … so will try to keep it civil
Your own Pakistani media and the message is LOUD & CLEAR …
Rice tells Pakistan to act ‘or US will’
The US Secretary of State, Dr Condoleezza Rice, is reported to have told Pakistan that there is ‘irrefutable evidence’ of involvement of elements in the country in the Mumbai attacks and that it needs to act urgently and effectively to avert a strong international response.
Rice tells Pakistan to act ‘or US will’ -DAWN - Top Stories; December 06, 2008
I do hope that the “irrefutable evidence” referred in the news article above is shared with Pakistan and that Pakisan takes stern action against perpetrators.
The news says she is reported to say that. Its a second hand report.
No acknowledgement from Pakistani officials.
Everyone has admitted as in the case of Marriott hotel sad event there are elements which are working hard to defame Pakistan and it is evident from this report that India is playing in the hands of these perpetrators by holding the bilateral talks and peace process.
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Mumbai terrorist came from Pakistan, local villagers confirm | World news | The Observer
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Posting links has no value.
Why not bring the person in to media?
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I don’t know if this article has already been posted, I think it is interesting :
British Intelligence is Behind Mumbai Massacre
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Lyndon LaRouche
November 28, 2008*
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Mumbai comes during the last days of the Bush Administration, Lyndon LaRouche said today, in which we are expecting the very worst to strike globally. And the British are also in heat right now. Therefore, you are looking for the very worst at this time. And, because of the Pakistan ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence)/British MI-6 involvement, Mumbai could not have happened at this time, unless the British were involved in it.**
“It would be British intelligence,” he said. “They’re the only ones who would do this. Someone says they’re Pakistani? Yeah, so what! It’s British intelligence.”
“Don’t look at it as coming from a propaganda line, to an action,” LaRouche warned. **“The propaganda line may have nothing to do with the action. Don’t look for a propaganda algebra that will give you the key to who’s behind it. In a situation like this, propaganda algebra doesn’t work. The EFFECT does. What is the EFFECT? Who wants the effect?
In a situation like this, ask whether British intelligence and their assets are active around this thing. If they are active at all, you don’t have to know what their line is. If they’re active, they’re guilty.
Now ask: Are they active, for example,– are they active in the region? Are they targetting Iran? Are they targetting a destabilization in Iraq, from the present situation? That’s what you look for. Or another attack on Syria. Why did Ehud Olmert reverse himself when he returned to Israel from the US, to turn around and deny that Washington had warned him against attacking Iran? You aren’t looking for a propaganda line; you are looking for simply an involvement.**
Cheney is the bellwether in this. Cheney’s involvement, or his group’s involvement in it. And remember, they’re the same thing as the British.
Turning now to East Asia, first of all, in Thailand, the situation there has been chaotic for some time; it’s coming to a ripening now. You’ve got extreme instability in China because the Chinese don’t know how to deal with this crisis they’re facing. So that’s another little part of the problem.
So you’ve got, also, a tremendous instability in trade, economy and so forth throughout the world, especially in Eurasia and Africa. And also now, in the United States.
So you’ve got all these factors going, so you have a combination of a willful malice on one hand, but also you’ve got circumstances which are ignitable. So the friction between malice and ignitables, is something which is hard to sort out here. All you can do is look for these factors. Just get some degree of temperature reading of what’s going on, from the two kinds of things. That is, the ignitable character of the situation, and the factor of the malicious operations underway.
Alex Jones’ Infowars.com: Because there is a war on for your mind!
What do you think about that ?
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Another link : Lyndon LaRouche, Concluding Remarks: The “Islamic Problem” Is a British Creation | LaRouche Political Action Committee
**ISLAMABAD: Pakistani authorities during the course of their own investigations into the Mumbai carnage have established the identity of the only surviving terrorist Ajmal Kasaab as a Pakistani national. **
A high ranking government official while confirming the report told Dawnnews that because of the nature of his crime the government has still not taken any decision on whether to provide him with counselor access.
**The top official said the investigations had started soon after the initial reports had suggested that Ajmal Kasaab may possibly be a Pakistani national. **
**However the authorities wanted to be doubly sure of his identity as there existed no record of Kasaab and his family in the National Data Base which is maintained by NADRA. Details of the preliminary investigations submitted to the government have still not been made public. **
The official said Kasaab is the son of Amir Kasaab and Mrs Noor Illahi. But the identity of others militants killed in Mumbai carnage is yet to be established but senior security officials told Dawnnews that preliminary investigations have established that these militants were operating on their own and had absolutely no link with any section of the country’s security apparatus. A formal announcement in this regard is expected in the next few days.
DAWN.COM | Pakistan | Surviving-gunmans-identity-established-as-Pakistani-ss
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*ISLAMABAD: Pakistani authorities during the course of their own investigations into the Mumbai carnage have established the identity of the only surviving terrorist Ajmal Kasaab as a Pakistani national. *
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Wait and watch there is again going to be a La Kargil U turn. US will want justice for its citizens killed only then will suddenly they will be declared terrorist similar to what Pak did with the Taliban in Afghanistan.
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BBC NEWS | South Asia | Pakistan sacks security advisor
How many still believe in crazy conspiracy theories and still deny that there was pakistani involvement in these attacks?
I do hope that the "irrefutable evidence" referred in the news article above is shared with Pakistan and that Pakisan takes stern action against perpetrators.
interesting post. do you not trust your own miinister for information? Now what stern action would you propose? a nice house arrest with govt provided cook and security guard?
Govt of Pakistan should pay compensation to the families of the innocents slaughtered in Mumbai, completely destroy the terron camps where the training took place and ensure that ISI is completely cleansed of the terrorist supporters.
A few months back I believe Gilani or Zardari sponsored a decision to move ISI out of the military and under civilian control, but it was withdrawn. That change should be tried since the Pakistan government seems to live in fear of the military and ISI is therefore out of control.
just what I think based on observing events, open lies and shameless statements by members of government in Pakistan contradicting each other.
I also remember seeing videos by a guy called Zaid or Zain or something claiming the Mubai attackers were Indians! Now what does he have to say? Is he going to claim Ajmal's dad and Pakistan's own minister of Information are on Indian RAW payroll?
Subinspector Oomble who gallantly took six shots into his body while he single handedly tried to snatch the firing gun from the hand of terrorist leaves two young children who look at his photograph everyday and miss their dad. And you fellows are trying to evade open clear evidence!
interesting post. do you not trust your own miinister for information? Now what stern action would you propose? a nice house arrest with govt provided cook and security guard?
Govt of Pakistan should pay compensation to the families of the innocents slaughtered in Mumbai, completely destroy the terron camps where the training took place and ensure that ISI is completely cleansed of the terrorist supporters.
A few months back I believe Gilani or Zardari sponsored a decision to move ISI out of the military and under civilian control, but it was withdrawn. That change should be tried since the Pakistan government seems to live in fear of the military and ISI is therefore out of control.
just what I think based on observing events, open lies and shameless statements by members of government in Pakistan contradicting each other.
I also remember seeing videos by a guy called Zaid or Zain or something claiming the Mubai attackers were Indians! Now what does he have to say? Is he going to claim Ajmal's dad and Pakistan's own minister of Information are on Indian RAW payroll?
Subinspector Oomble who gallantly took six shots into his body while he single handedly tried to snatch the firing gun from the hand of terrorist leaves two young children who look at his photograph everyday and miss their dad. And you fellows are trying to evade open clear evidence!
Pakistan has responded to the evidence provided, and returned a response to India. So chillax.
As far as compensation goes, India should compensate Pakistan for all the lives lost due to its sponspored terrorism as well. Pakistan too has a list of some very influential Indian Terrorists including Advani who are wanted.
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The difference is, Pakistan's claims of Indian attacks are cooked up whereas the Indians have provided irrefutable proof that was compelling enough that your own minister has had to admit guilt.
Pragmatically speaking, not openly and fully prosecuting LeT JuD and ISI free radicals will further tarnish your govt's own credibility even further. Can you imagine, if after your own minister's admission, if these guys are not duly punished?