Re: Terror attack in Mumbai, Hotel Oberoi under siege
I am closing the thread for people to calm down. If you guys can't control your fingers and emotions then you are no different than un-parh jahil who throw stones at their fellow people while demonstrating against something.
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**Thread re-opened.
Any suggestions to point fingers at any religion (or Pakistan) will not be tolerated, let the terrorists be caught and investigation come to conclusion. You guys are falling in hands of terrorists, they want you to disrupt any harmony/peace and thats exactly what you all are doing here.
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Hope it stands true for all relegions.
BTW Taj hotel cleared all terrorists DEAD
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Thank you Captain1. You are absolutely right here. I think discussions can go on without finger pointing and abusive language. Please stay around because it takes just one loose comment to lose our dignity and self respect :D
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Right! We ought to make a collective effort to be able to understand each other, and have the strength in us to listen to fair criticism. Constructive criticism is not a bad thing, it’s a sort of reflection, not an insult.
May the perpetrators of this mayhem be brought to justice and an example made out of them. Whoever they happen to be.
We, the GS Pakistanis, share in this sorrow with you India! 
My condolences to the victims, their families and loved ones. May the injured recover soon, inshaAllah.
BTW Taj hotel cleared all terrorists DEAD
shucks! I wish they had used some gas to catch them unconscious, a dead terrorist is good for the people but not for the country (as it will be hard to get to the root).
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Totally agree .... let things settle down and the facts emerge, we can all talk in a civilized manner. After all whatever we do here is not going to change anything on ground. But a good exchange can generate a better understanding. Let us pray for the people who have suffered.
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There have been some live captures as well. The focus has now shifted to Oberoi hotel. There are also transcripts of their mobile calls.
I am monitoring developments. Very unfortunate indeed.
Just reported one injured terrorist still left at TAJ, security forces after him.
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There have been some live captures as well. The focus has now shifted to Oberoi hotel. There are also transcripts of their mobile calls.
I am monitoring developments. Very unfortunate indeed.
From what I gathered only Oberoi Hotel and Taj Hotel were under seige, correct? So Oberoi hotel is the last one under seige? Hopefully all hostages come out alive and well.
The live captures of terrorists were from where? Train, hospital or Taj Hotel?
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Correcto, it's often and more than likely the ideology that leads to killing or hurting an innocent.
A little tangent here, but look at Hitler, his war was ideology driven yet he was christian but no one says that he led a Christian war because people understand it's the ideology that was at work.
Lets us do the same here. Consider the reality of the matter and not make statements that further widen the divide between us all.
I'll refrain from say anything that is inappropriate, i request all of you to do the same please. Hate begets hate. And what we need is more peace and harmony.
You forgot to take out the above thing on previous page.
Besides i guess these scenarios have nothing to do with religion, but are related to an ideology of destruction.
Let the mods clean up the trash on this page ..... however if they feel my post is the "only one" that they find offensive i will gladly remove it
Let the mods clean up the trash on this page ..... however if they feel my post is the "only one" that they find offensive i will gladly remove it
I've cleaned up last few posts only, I am going to let everything sit here. Once things are cooled off we can comeback here and see how we fared in testing times, hopefully that will correct our behavior in future under all circumstances. Hopefully it will help us all grow.
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Hostages had been taken at 4 places. Nariman point and Cama hospital were other locations.
Update: NSG commandos start freeing people at Nariman Point.
7 terrorists killed at TAJ.
Hostages had been taken at 4 places. **Nariman point **and Cama hospital were other locations.
Update: NSG commandos start freeing people at Nariman Point.
What is Nariman point? Is it a tourist spot? Sorry for the ignorance.
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Manmohan Singh is already saying that the attackers were base outside India, within 24 hours, before and investigation takes place, and while the incident is still going on.
While I would ordinarily "female dog" about this a lot, I have to concede that it's probably the right thing to say for now to avoid unleashing religious tension within India.
Nonetheless, this brings to mind how the Spanish PM immediately blamed ETA for the Madrid bombings before an investigation began.
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ISLAMABAD, Pakistan – Pakistan warned India against accusing of it links to the Mumbai terror attacks Thursday, saying doing so would “destroy all the goodwill” between the two nuclear-armed rivals.
The remarks by Pakistan’s defense minister came hours after Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said militants based outside his country carried them out.
Singh did not single out Pakistan, which New Delhi has accused of complicity in terror attacks on its soil before, but his remarks are likely to be taken as a sign here that India suspects Pakistani links somewhere in the plot.
A serious deterioration in relations between Pakistan and India, which have fought three wars since 1947, would greatly complicate U.S. foreign policy in South Asia as it tries to get Islamabad to focus less on its southern neighbor and more on tackling al-Qaida and Taliban militants along the Afghan border.
In 2001, militants fighting Indian-rule in the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir attacked the parliament in New Delhi, helping push the countries to the brink of war a year later.
The attack late Wednesday saw teams of gunmen attack at least 10 sites, including two luxury hotels, a railway station and a Jewish center, in the financial capital of Mumbai. More than 100 people were killed.
In an address to the nation, Prime Minister Singh said the group that carried out the attacks “was based outside the country” and warned its neighbors “that the use of their territory for launching attacks on us will not be tolerated.”
Pakistan Defense Minister Ahmed Mukhtar condemned the attack, but said "we should not be blamed like in the past,“This will destroy all the goodwill we created together after years of bitterness,” he told The Associated Press. “I will say in very categoric terms that Pakistan is not involved in these gory incidents.”
Earlier, Indian navy spokesman Capt. Manohar Nambiar said navy officers had boarded a cargo vessel it suspected of ties to the attacks that had come to Mumbai from Karachi, Pakistan. He later said the ship was not linked in any way to the strikes.
Many analysts said Wednesday’s attacks were more likely to have been carried out by indigenous, Indian extremist groups blamed for a series of bombings this year than Pakistani-linked ones.
They also noted that India’s government stood to benefit politically for hinting at the involvement of its old rival — rather than admitting some of its own 145 million Muslims had become radicalized.
“It will always want to label this militancy as foreign rather than to accept it has its own problem,” said Shaun Gregory, an expert on South Asian terrorism at the University of Bradford in Britain. “That sells much more easily to the Indian public than admitting serious grievances within its Muslims.”
Relations between India and Pakistan have improved in recent years, helped by a reduction in the flow of militants into Kashmir, the divided and violence-torn territory at the core of their dispute.
Pakistan’s new president, Asif Ali Zardari, declared over the weekend that India posed no threat to Pakistan and called for the heavily militarized border to be opened for trade.
Earlier, Pakistan’s foreign minister said his country would cooperate in any investigation. He too warned against early speculation about the perpetrators.
“Let us not go in for knee-jerk reactions,” said Shah Mehmood Qureshi, who was in India for talks on a slow-moving South Asian peace process.
An Indian media report said a previously unknown group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen claimed responsibility for the attacks in e-mails to several media outlets. There was no way to verify that claim.
Rohan Gunaratna, a terrorism expert at the International Center for Political Violence and Terrorism Research in Singapore, said he believed the terrorists were from India. “The earlier generation of terrorist groups in India were mostly linked to Pakistan,” he said. “But today we are seeing a dramatic change. They are almost all homegrown groups.”
Manmohan Singh is already saying that the attackers were base outside India, within 24 hours, before and investigation takes place, and while the incident is still going on.
While I would ordinarily "female dog" about this a lot, I have to concede that it's probably the right thing to say for now to avoid unleashing religious tension within India.
Nonetheless, this brings to mind how the Spanish PM immediately blamed ETA for the Madrid bombings before an investigation began.
Well hopefully the investigation will not be tainted with any assumptions and will be unbiased. We'll just have to wait and see.
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What is Nariman point? Is it a tourist spot? Sorry for the ignorance
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Sorry! Nariman point is location having high concentration of multi national offices. Exact traget is Nariman House.
Nariman point is a business / tourist place … but they are actually refering to Nariman House which is like a hostel for jews … Mumbai Chabad House - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Coming back to the topic… there will be as many stories as there are media people … here is view from the arab world … though they have picked up the story from reuters
Mumbai gunmen battle army, some hostages freed
Indian commandos freed hostages from Mumbai’s Taj Mahal hotel on Thursday but battled on with Islamist militants who launched an audacious attack across India’s financial capital, killing more than 100 people.
The gunmen arrived by boats in Mumbai on Wednesday, before fanning out and attacking luxury hotels, a landmark cafe, hospitals and a railway station, firing indiscriminately.