Ten minutes with Tina

Just had to get my quota in.


Ten minutes with Tina

Were you expecting to get the Pride of Performance award this year?

“No. Not at all. And it was one of the most beautiful surprises. All these years I’ve worked for myself and simply shared it with people. I mean, four albums in 22 years. I’ve really been low-key. This is such a healthy signal for people like us. It’s encouraging to know that there is a consciousness for quality, not just commercial viability. This was absolutely a gift from God.”

Your pop phase may be your highest point of recognition, but which era do you consider your best?

“Undoubtedly Khari Neem Key Neechay for Karavan was the point for me. And of course there was the work I did with Faiz’s poetry.”

And worst?

“Initially, I had problems because Karachi had a modern, pop music scene. I had a tough time convincing composers I wanted to do serious music. I wanted to sing ghazals, but the composers wanted me to do all sorts of songs. I did some things which I hated, but had to do so to prove myself. That was really a low phase.”

What kind of problems did you face?

“I always had a tone problem. My voice was very heavy and husky, as opposed to the high-pitched, chirpy voices that were popular in those days. I had to be diplomatic with the composers, careful not to offend them as I had to make them adjust their melodies to my voice. I remember working with Bazmi Sahib, who was used to working with Runa Laila. That was such a problem. But he worked very hard with me and it was great for my career.”

What is your most memorable performance?

“My first performance in Lahore. It was Faiz’s first death anniversary and emotions were running really high. I had no idea. I was so new to it all. But people got to know me better and with my first piece, the tears started streaming. The effect was amazing.”

What do you have to say about the current pop scene in Pakistan?

“Some performers are very, very good. Quite frankly, I think music has really taken off in the last two years. I mean, there will always be weak stuff, but there is also a lot of good music coming along. I love it, as long as it’s not off key. Some people try to pass bad music off as modern. I really feel insulted by that. That’s not pop music, that’s just wrong.”

Your future priorities?

“I will be singing from October onwards, but my son is my No. 1 priority. My work schedule revolves around his vacations.”

So you’ve never been a victim of your work?

“Absolutely not, though I do want to add that I only feel victimized by TV recordings. **I am victim to Sahira Kazmi (laughs) who makes me work three days in a row up to 5am in the morning.” **

Your message to newcomers?

“Stay away from conspiracy theories. I feel we’re not doing as much because we think people are conspiring against us. A lot of these youngsters are in a hurry, as we once were. But growth has its own pace and they should stop listening to everything they hear. They should just do their work. Good work will always show.”

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Physically, he is huge, and so is his quest for undertaking seemingly titanic projects, which he has carried out, at times, successfully. Nevertheless, running a network of television channels that is geared towards entertainment as well as information is no mean task.

I was somewhat apprehensive of meeting him in his office, anticipating a constant onslaught of the intercom and telephone bells. Ghazanfar Ali, Chief Executive, Indus Television Network, puts me at ease instantly by instructing his secretary not to give him any calls. However, his own lack of concentration is noticeable, perhaps due to the timing of this interview, which takes place just a day before he is due to fly off to England. The cable operators' strike is also on everyone's mind, about which much has already been written.

He came down hard on the strike, saying, "What kind of people (viewers) are we? This is utter blackmail. If there is a problem with the banning of the Indian channels, Pemra should be approached and asked questions. Why are we, the Pakistani channels, being victimized?"

Since the channels are being beamed across many other countries, besides Pakistan, it is relevant to ask if he thinks that the quality of programmes on the Indus Network is good enough.

"Television is a medium of mediocrity, not a medium of excellence," Ghazanfar Ali opines and continues saying that "90 per cent of us do not want to be bombarded in the evenings with serious issues on television. We want to relax. We want to watch programmes that entertain."

He reiterates this by saying that some people get so involved with certain issues and plays projected on their TV screens, they even start to cry on the phone when they call a channel with their feedback.

Calling his secretary to bring in some figures of a ratings agency, he delights in quoting an astronomical figure of 67,809 calls received at the Indus Network during just 19 days.

"So far, the calls are free. We don't make any money on them. The transmission that has been started exclusively for women on one of our channels is becoming increasingly popular. Hence the excessive number of calls." Ghazanfar Ali seems pleased with the positive response for Hum Aur Aap Barahay Raast, and we discuss some aspects about the women's programmes before moving on to talk about Indus Vision's Manto plays and film festival, which, according to Ghazanfar Ali, are non-commercial projects. Later, there is discussion on the exclusive channel for music - Indus Music, which has also set a trend for music channels on other networks.

Ghazanfar says he has done music-based programmes in the past when he was offered to produce Music Channel Charts for NTM - as a test. The MCC proved to be immensely popular. Nonetheless, he is nonchalant about the fact that Indus Music seems to cater to a single genre of music, even while offering present-day facsimiles of the great tunes of the 1960s and '70s. Other genres of our rich musical heritage are not given an equal opportunity on the channel: classical (vocal and instrumental), folk, qawwali, film songs and music, children's songs, as well as music from other cultures. What does he have to say about it?

"You must remember that 65 per cent of the viewers of this channel are young people. We must, therefore, cater to their needs and demands," he justifies the time allotted to pop music groups.

Indus Vision was started towards the end of the year 2000. Before this happened, Ghazanfar Ali was heading Tele-world - a PTV World channel, for which he says he worked free of cost for nine months.

"There was manipulation as well as nepotism at PTV," (not new to the way things seem to work here) "and I thought of establishing my own channel. The offer made from abroad for a partnership made it possible."

Asked if he feels he has a good hold on the way things are going in his own network, and whether or not he misses being a director, Ghazanfar Ali admits that one might begin with a particular idea, but it can evolve and change into something quite different.

"I am less of a driver, and feel that I am more driven. I am caught up in my circumstances. I may have struggled, but now this work has been consolidated. From a single channel we are now a network. There should be a global network - an alternative viewpoint from the East. I hope this can be achieved."

The way things are looking up for Indus TV, this will perhaps not remain just wishful thinking.

nice to see Indus media network doing well.

Hi Samby. Long time no see. I thought u were on about Tina Turner. I would love to hear your comments on Dream Saturday :D