CJ has remarked that 30million people cannot be denied the right to vote. He directed the election comisoner to tell the President that these people cannot be denied their right to vote.
Re: Tell the President Voters cannot be denied their right;CJ
so nadra card is a prerequisite to be on the voter list. is there an issue with that? I dont get it.
Re: Tell the President Voters cannot be denied their right;CJ
CJ in action. Good to see.
Re: Tell the President Voters cannot be denied their right;CJ
peopel dont want to get NADRA cards? I thought the new cards were made so they were mor etamper proof and to deal with the issue of the many fake shanaqti cards out there.
so to me it makes sense that the new, more secure proof of id is used as a basis for voter list.
what am I missing here?
Re: Tell the President Voters cannot be denied their right;CJ
^ the voter lists and NADRA cards are two different thing Fraudz. To vote you need to be on the list and have a NADRA card.
The electoral rolls that have been prepared, have been botched very badly, some think it's pre poll rigging. I personally think it's just blatant incompetence which will backfire come election time.
Mind you it's not like the gov is not rigging it as we speak, what with the spooks interviewing/ screening potential winning candidates for the PML & MQM in Punjab.
Re: Tell the President Voters cannot be denied their right;CJ
so are people asking for voters without nadra cards to be on the list as well?
hey man scj is in da house... it'll be okay
Re: Tell the President Voters cannot be denied their right;CJ
Huge number of people in rural areas do not have Nadra cards, many of the poor people cannot be expected to take few days off their work and make a new Nadra card. Even if they do now, they won't find there name in the list.
Re: Tell the President Voters cannot be denied their right;CJ
Huge number of people in rural areas do not have Nadra cards, many of the poor people cannot be expected to take few days off their work and make a new Nadra card. Even if they do now, they won't find there name in the list.
yaar dekho...to become a registered voter in US, u ned some id too, and u need to show some id to go and vote too.
Now if people dont have cards, then that is their problem..they should not be voting then.
Re: Tell the President Voters cannot be denied their right;CJ
I think that there is a big mystery spin here on Pakistani population and voter list. There is something fishy and wrong. One need to think and the answer could be much different than missing voters, rather it is possible that we are seeing disappearing 'farishtas' :)
All these parties shouting foul play could be real culprits, shedding tears on those 'farishtas' that may be there voters and are now gone back to where they came from ;)
Re: Tell the President Voters cannot be denied their right;CJ
I think before making assumptions, CJ as well as Pakistan government and election commission should show some imagination, and come out with real (and probably true) explanation for all this missing voters in voter list.
When Bangladesh and West Pakistan was one country, Population of West Pakistan was around 80 percent of Bangladesh. Today (2007), population of Bangladesh is around 150 million and 80 percent of 150 million is around 120 million.
Similarly in 1970, West Pakistan population was less than 11 percent of India’s population. Today (2007) India’s population is shade under 1130 million. 11 percent would be 124 million.
Now it is mystery that Pakistan claims that there are 165 million people in Pakistan? How it is that? Well, Pakistan is a corrupt society where politicians are shrewd as well as dishonest. Some time I feel that it is possible Pakistan population after all is not 165 million but much less (maybe around 120 million).
Recorded population of Pakistan is comparatively very high today because probably political parties have lot of ‘farishtas’ of their own for voting purposes, and they only come out when election comes. They may have also made many old NIC for the purpose (as it was easy to get old non computerised NIC).
This is well known fact in Pakistan that many people made multiple NIC for various reasons. Now NIC is computerised and thus it is difficult to make mulitple NIC, hence we are seeing a much lower number of registered voters. I do not know how this would get sorted out.
It is also possible that provinces are showing population higher then it is, so that they can get more money in ‘provincial award’ (NFC award) from federal government that is mostly dependent on population of province. I think that many people living in Karachi and other big cities, migrated from interior areas, have record in census at their new residence as well as in their original place of residence.
I think that if there are 50 million voters now as compared to 70 million in 2002, it is understandable. Because duplicate NIC cards (or NIC for farishtas) for voting purposes must be adults and thus, those 35 to 40 million extra population are mostly voters population. Thus, it is possible that in 2002, instead of around 70 million registered voters in 2002, possibility is that, in reality there were around 40 to 45 million voters. Over last 5 years, their numbers have increased to around 50 million voters (It is also possible that even today, there are some farishtas in voter list).
Well, this is just an assumptive conclusion :).
Re: Tell the President Voters cannot be denied their right;CJ
that is some ridiculous bovine excrement, sa1eem pal. =)
Re: Tell the President Voters cannot be denied their right;CJ
The whole election thing is a waste of time. Push come to shove Isi is not going to sit idle and watch people get their way. I actually don't think if Musharaf is forced to contest in a election he doesn't have anything to worry about. Nor do people have anything worry abt from him.The real corruption to be feared is the unholy alliance between some ISI, armed services and certain religious mided so called leaders. This mafia has no interest but one - to blast Musharaf out regardless of price to pakistanis. Only way to keep them quiet is paying a lot of money
Re: Tell the President Voters cannot be denied their right;CJ
that is some ridiculous bovine excrement, sa1eem pal. =)
Why is that? give me some logical explanation? Is it not true that there were many people in past that had multiple non-computerised NIC?
Re: Tell the President Voters cannot be denied their right;CJ
yaar dekho...to become a registered voter in US, u ned some id too, and u need to show some id to go and vote too.
Now if people dont have cards, then that is their problem..they should not be voting then.
To vote one does need an ID card in Pakistan to prove that you are the person registered. The issue is over the Nadra cards that many people in rural areas do not have, they still have the old ID cards. These cards should be recognized for voting.
Re: Tell the President Voters cannot be denied their right;CJ
Not all the eligible voters have CNIC.