Tell me Quick

How many rakats are there in Isha ki Namaaz.

Asalaam ualikum;

You can pray any number of Nafl Prayers, followed by four Fardh(obligatory) Rakaa't, 2 Rakaa't Sunnat-e-Maukada, Then as many Nafl prayers as you wish, followed by Three Rakaa'ts witr.

Great, Now I am even more confused.

Tell me in order like for instance for maghrib its 3 farz, 3 sunnat and 2 nafil.

Any number of Nafl (depends on you)
4 Fardh
2 Sunnat-e-Muakada
Any number of Nafl (depends on you)
3 Witr

Oh, and for Maghrib it is:
2 Nafl
3 fardh
2 Sunnat-e-Muakada

Reference url for next time: http://www.iad.org/Pillars/time.html

Mahiwal (not to be disrespectful) BUT what are you talking bout.

All my life i've done nafil at the very end. And what is Sunnat e Muakada?

You arent being very helpful here. Anybody else I need help. Akif

Oh, yes after the Maghrib prayer you can pray as many Nafl as you want so it is like this:

2 Nafl(if you wish)
3 Fardh
2 Sunnat-e-Maukadda
Nafl (Any Number of nafls that you wish)

It would be less confusing if you actually visited the provided link, but since you wont, I'll cut and paste for you:

Sunnat Muakkadah (compulsory). That is those which are emphasized by the holy Prophet (pbuh) and offered regularly by him before or after the Fard prayer.

sunnat Ghair Muakkadah (optional). That is those offered only occasionally by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

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Originally posted by Anchal:
*How many rakats are there in Isha ki Namaaz. *
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According to what I have been told, and have witnessed most of the time
There are 17 Rakats in Isha, and this is the way they are performed.

4 Sunnat
4 Fard
2 Sunnat
2 Nafal
3 Witr
2 Nafal


TusaaN kooN maaN WatanaaN da, AsaaN haaN yaar Pardesi.

Don that made a lot of sense, Now if you could also please post the orders of all namazain that would help.

Fajar

2 sunnat (highly recommended to pray them under all ciscumstances according to a hadith)
2 farz

Zuhr

4 sunnat
4 farz
2 sunnat
2 nafal

asar

4 sunnat (ghair muakkida)
4 farz

maghrib

3 farz
2 sunnat
2 nafal

Isha

4 sunnat (gheir muakkida)
4 farz
2 sunnat
2 nafal
3 witar
2 nafal

Your prayer will still be valid if you offer farz and witar only, however, there is a great reward for those sunnat which are not ghair muakkida.

There is no such thing are you can offer as many nafal in a prayer as you want. Ofcourse you can, but those nafal would not be included in the namaaz and would be considered a nafli ibaadat only.

nafal prayers r something that is entirely ur wish to pray or not to pray....
there is no fixed amount of nafal prayer before or after any prayer....
pray as much as u find easy for u, and if u dont pry any (of the nafal prayers) u wont be questioned....


"Our Lord! forgive us our sins and anything we may have done that transgressed our duty; establish our feet firmly and help us against those that resist faith." **Quran(3:147)

I always thought Asr was just the four farz. I didn't realise their was Sunnat...what is Ghair Muakkida?

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Originally posted by s_H_e_I_k_H:
I always thought Asr was just the four farz. I didn't realise their was Sunnat...what is Ghair Muakkida?
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Sunnat Muakkadah (compulsory). That is those which are emphasized by the holy Prophet (pbuh) and offered regularly by him before or after the Fard prayer.

Sunnat Ghair Muakkadah (optional). That is those offered only occasionally by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

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Originally posted by sallu123:
** Sunnat Muakkadah (compulsory). That is those which are emphasized by the holy Prophet (pbuh) and offered regularly by him before or after the Fard prayer.

Sunnat Ghair Muakkadah (optional). That is those offered only occasionally by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).**
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Oh Allah, you took over twenty years to deliver the Qur'an and it's so long .. why oh why did you not tell us all about these sunnat-e-muakkada thingies?

Why, for the same reason as the following, dear PakistaniAbroad:

002.143 : Thus, have We made of you an Ummat justly balanced, that ye might be witnesses over the nations, and the Messenger a witness over yourselves; and We appointed the Qibla to which thou wast used, only to test those who followed the Messenger from those who would turn on their heels (From the Faith). Indeed it was (A change) momentous, except to those guided by Allah. And never would Allah Make your faith of no effect. For Allah is to all people Most surely full of kindness, Most Merciful.

sallu123, thanks for explaining, however I think it needs some eleboration.

Sunnat Muakkida is not compulsary in the true sense of the word. Your namaz will be valid even if you pray only the Farz and Taraweeh. However, Hazrat Muhammad (saw) regularly offered them and there is a great reward for those Muslims who include them in their prayers.

So, just as I mentioned in my last post, the prayer is still valid if you only offer Farz and Witar, however, the reward (sawaab) might not be as high.

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Originally posted by sallu123:
** Sunnat Muakkadah (compulsory). That is those which are emphasized by the holy Prophet (pbuh) and offered regularly by him before or after the Fard prayer.

Sunnat Ghair Muakkadah (optional). That is those offered only occasionally by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).**
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2 nafl before fard

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. I heard that it is a sin to offer any kind of nafl or other prayers before maghrib prayers except kaza namaz. Kindly correct me if im wrong.

Sharjeel, I think what Mahiwal did was shuffling the order of the rakaas, which ofcourse is also incorrect.

Regarding offering a nafal or other prayers before maghrib being a sin, I cant recall any references to this offhand. I will do some research. However, I do know that the time for Maghrib is very short and it is recommended to offer the prayers as soon as possible. For the same reason, there is no 20 minutes gap between the call for the prayer and the start of the Ba-Jamaat prayer in the Maghrib prayer, in contrast to other prayers. Also, the Maqghrib prayer follows the “Zawaal” time in which any ibaadat that involves a sajda is prohibited. That might be the reason why there are such peculiar conditions for this particular prayer. However, I will look around and post any references if I find them.

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Sorry for the confusion, I've always been taught to pray the 2 nafl after maghrib fard and sunnat-e-maukadah but I recently came across two ahadiths, one about offering two nafl whenever you enter a mosque and another about the Prophet(PBUH) saying pray before maghrib. When I took those to my local Imaam, he told me that it is advisable to pray two Rak'aats nafl before maghrib.

For those who say it is a sin, that is really not so since the Hanafi school of thought which does not recommend this bases its view on the fact that the Prophet(PBUH) had said that Maghrib prayer should be prayed in the earliest possible time.

Wallahu'Alim.
Maybe someone who knows more can help me out here.

Brother Mahiwal, can you please quote the reference?

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Originally posted by Mahiwal:
**Sorry for the confusion, I've always been taught to pray the 2 nafl after maghrib fard and sunnat-e-maukadah but I recently came across two ahadiths, one about offering two nafl whenever you enter a mosque and another about the Prophet(PBUH) saying pray before maghrib. When I took those to my local Imaam, he told me that it is advisable to pray two Rak'aats nafl before maghrib.

For those who say it is a sin, that is really not so since the Hanafi school of thought which does not recommend this bases its view on the fact that the Prophet(PBUH) had said that Maghrib prayer should be prayed in the earliest possible time.

Wallahu'Alim.
Maybe someone who knows more can help me out here.**
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