My first post in this place in a long time.
I started off gupshup posting here!
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Anyway so who it be?
For me:
openers i have no clue.
Saeed i think should be let out to pasture.
Now let the flames begin!
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Ours is not to reason why;
Ours is but to do and die
openers....
taufiq and afridi....
or maybe naveed....
i dont think azhar will be playing....
maybe sami or who kows mohammad zahid might be staging a comeback....
The squad announced for the series is as follows:
Waqar Younis (capt), Inzamamul Haq (v-capt), Shahid Afridi, Taufiq Umar, Yousaf Youhana, Younis Khan, Faisal Iqbal, Naveed Latif, Rashid Latif, Shoaib Akhtar, Muhammad Zahid, Muhammad Sami, Saqlain Mushtaq, Danish Kaneria and Abdul Razzak.
As you can see there is no Azhar Mahmood in the squad. Two fast bowlers will be playing. so it will be Waqar and one other, with Razzaq as the third seamer. The openers could well be Afridi and Taufiq
What happened to Imran Nazir?
Ours is not to reason why;
Ours is but to do and die
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Originally posted by CM:
**What happened to Imran Nazir?
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he needs some time to get back to the team....
he was dropped after showing some very poor form and he still continues to be playing poorly in the local matches too....
i think we shud count him out of the next years WC as well....
he's a great player - but just not in form these days....
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Originally posted by armughal:
** he needs some time to get back to the team....
he was dropped after showing some very poor form and he still continues to be playing poorly in the local matches too....
i think we shud count him out of the next years WC as well....
he's a great player - but just not in form these days....**
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I still think that Imran Nazir is a good attaching player, far better than Navid Latif, Taufeeq Omer or Imran Farhat. These are one match players and only score against teams like Bangladesh and Kenya. But Imran Nazir is real quality player.
I agree..IMran is a better player ..he needs to be groomed and opersisted with.
Jiyo Aur Jeene Do!!!
Not only he is a great batsman but his fielding is the best in pakistan.
I think he is more of a one day player than a test match player.
Shahid Afridi should be given a chance to play test matches. He hasn't played a test match in a long time, you never know, plus he is a great bowler.
Afridi
Taufeeq Umar
Younis Khan
Inzimam Ul Haq
Yousuf Youhana
Abdur Razzaq
Rashid Latif
Waqar Younis
Saqlain Mushtaq
Danesh Kaneria
Shoaib Akhtar
Mohd. Zahid (12th man)
Thank you, come again
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Originally posted by UMAIR316:
**Not only he is a great batsman but his fielding is the best in pakistan.
I think he is more of a one day player than a test match player.
Shahid Afridi should be given a chance to play test matches. He hasn't played a test match in a long time, you never know, plus he is a great bowler.
Afridi
Taufeeq Umar
Younis Khan
Inzimam Ul Haq
Yousuf Youhana
Abdur Razzaq
Rashid Latif
Waqar Younis
Saqlain Mushtaq
Danesh Kaneria
Shoaib Akhtar
Mohd. Zahid (12th man)
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Umair, just a slight change in the team you mentioned. Since Mohd. Zahid didnt get the visa for UAE, he cant be 12th man. So Sami might replace him.
Also I think that, looking at the pitch conditions, we could replace Danish Kaneria with Sami. Or later on with Zahid, when he gets his visa.
Yes…Shahid has grea Talent…I wish he had more pateince too..if he gets some pateince he will be great Bowler..
lekin ALLAH GANJE KO NAKHUN NAHI DETA !!!
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Jiyo Aur Jeene Do!!!
Not exactly a great bowling line up in terms of speed.
One fast bowler and a couple of medium pacers - Waqar and Razzaq.
I think we need not play Saqlain and boost up the bowling with Sami or Zahid. We have Danesh and he's been performing better than Saqi anyway.
Too many spinners on a Sharjah track - not a good idea.
Afridi is just a bad risk. Why do we stick with him ? And guys like Taufiq and Younis are no match winners. The wins over Bangladesh mean nothing.
I dunno. Our team just does not have the auora like that of Australia or that matter India - with names like the Waugh brothers, Ponting, Hayden, Warne, McGrath.
We all witnessed the 48/4 debacle of our openers against Bangladesh. All with these same openers. I wouldn't underestimate the WI. One man shows that save the team do not cut it in the long run.
I don't believe that we will whitewash the WI. Usually we lose to the team that the world considers whipping boys.
Let's see.
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[This message has been edited by a1shah (edited January 29, 2002).]
Well the best team would have been -
Saeed Anwar
Imran Nazir
Younis Khan
Inzamam Ul Haq
Yousef Youhana
Moin Khan
Saqlain Mushtaq
Waqar Younis
Danish Kaneria
Shoaib Akhter
Mohammad Zahid
3 fast bowlers - 2 spinners. No allrounders. Thats the way to go.
But unfortunately thats not what the selectors think so this probably what we will see..
Taufeeq Umar
Shahid Afridi
Younis Khan
Inzamam Ul Haq
Yousef Youhana
Abdur Razzaq
Rashid Latif
Waqar Younis
Danish Kaneria
Saqlain Mushtaq
Shoaib Akhter
Both these openers will never be able to handle top quality bowling attacks on tough pitches. They are good young players but they are limited in both their talent and their potential. Afridi can never click when we need him to and Umar is just not good enough. Imran Nazir is the future of this team and he should be in the playing 11 in every game. Waqar seems to have something against him because he has rarely played Nazir since he became the captain. Saeed Anwar is unfit so he is unfortunately out and that is a big blow. Razzaq shouldnt play in test cricket. You need to go with 5 specialist batsmen and 5 bowlers with Moin Khan as the keeper.
Like I have mentioned before, moin khan is a much better test player than latif.
I think he should atleast get a chance to play in test matches, his performance in test matches have quite been impressive.
Latif is a player who plays better under pressure, so one day cricket is suitable for him.
One reason I think our batsman did poorly against Bangladesh because they never really got into the game, like a typical pakistani team, they take alot of teams really lightly and that gave way for bangali bowlers to bowl well.
Sharjah is always a great place for Pakistan, i don't believe there will be a whitewash, then again Lara is not playing, so westindian batsman are going to find it hard on batting out the whole 2 innings against pakistan, but they will give them hard time specially in the bowling department.
The biggest problem involves two openers, and so far we haven't seen any decent openers in pakistan since amir sohail and saeed anwar.
I still think Imran Nazir is not a test material, he is only good for one days. but his fielding is awesome, so he can be a certain 12th man.
Thank you, come again
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Originally posted by UMAIR316:
** so westindian batsman are going to find it hard on batting out the whole 2 innings against pakistan,
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I just don't see it.
There's nothing in the Pakistani bowling line up, besides Danesh, that would give the WI team any serious problem.
Shoaib will probably give runs away freely or break down.
The rest will depend on either WI getting out to poor shots or Waqar cleaning up the rear end.
Ofcourse, the same applies to us. But I have a strong feeling this series will consist of the top Pakistani order collasping and being saved with the likes of YY and Latif now and again.
Its not a strong side in my opinion. In addition, Razzaq has been pretty expensive with the ball.
Not much penetration. WI have seen better attacks.
Pakistan's bowling record in sharjah has been quite impressive, specially waqar. often their bowlers rescued the team when pakistan's batting order collapsed.
but then again, that was one days, so we don't exactly know whats going to happen in test matches.
danesh kaneria doesn't have a good record on sharjah pitches, i would rather give him some more time on developing his bowling technique and in couple years he will likely to match up with saqlain.
I agree that shoaib is going to be the most expensive but waqar will be the one taking the most wickets in the series.
westindies does not have a decent bowling attack, with the exception of mervyn dillon.
they have no special spinner in their team. its not like walsh and ambrose. but then again the only way our batting is going to collapse if our batsmanthrow away their wickets.
Thank you, come again
Saqi should be dropped???
NEVER!!!
That is the problem with the pakistani team.
You in the rut you kicked out.
That is not how you foster team spirit and confidence in the management.
The Pakistan philiosphy for winning must be changed.
It should not depend on one person, either batsman, bolwer or fielder.
But all of them together.
That is why AUS kicks butt.
If batting fails, the bowlers will pick up the slack, but the fielders will work twice as hard to do better as they messed up with the batting.
I don't like fasties all that much.
2 speeds is good for an opening pair, but you need variety these days.
The days of 4 fasts is gone.
They have been gone for some time.
1 or 2 spinners is good.
Mix a or 2 medium pacers you got a good mix to confuse the batsman and not let them get their groove in.
Ours is not to reason why;
Ours is but to do and die