There are several kinds of Taweezes. Those which contain Qurani Ayas in right order and which are worn with the intention that such Ayas will protect one from a particular danger (to which these ayas refer to) can not be termed as Shirk.
Well all depends on the intentions and thats all. No messing up please!
well i agree that the way we ppl use taweez can b considered shirk ( minor onr ) but i think u ppl not gettign my point that we should not give fatwas on any issue regarding islam specially on senstive issues
hi sadia i would seriously like to clear ur misconception abt the taweez thingi but unfortunately my exams are starting tomorrow and it would take a lot of time in explaining the whole thing and i have to study.... iwon't be coming here for atleast 12 days and i am only writing this to tell u that i am not running away but will answer u in detail when i come back...but i would like to say one thing in the end** if one believes that medicine or taweez has the power to heal, and one doesnot have to read Quran or pray now to ward off evil then that is shirk....but on the other hand if one has firm belief in the powers of Allah and takes medicine or taweez as simply a way thru which Allah heals then that is not shirk'**
shirk means ** belief that any other being or thing shares the powers of Allah** it can be a simple tablet or a taweez, it only depends on the intention with which a man uses these things.
ButtJee: I've read a lot of fatawa and other material on 'taweez'. I've also discussed it with several people a while ago. I don't think I saved the emails/info else I would've posted it over here. I'm not issuing any personal fatawa.
You still have to provide us with ahadith or wahtever your source maybe stating that the Sahaba used to do taweez!
enchanted: It would be nice if you can also backup yourself with Quran & Sunnah. I understand your point, but it isn't sufficient enough for me to believe that 'taweez' and other 'amulets' do not fall under the category of 'minor shirk'.
Thanks!
i agre with u enchated
well i will try to get some hadeeth INSHALLAH
OK? SADIA
*waiting!
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“I put my trust in Allah, my Lord and your Lord! There is not a moving creature, but He has a grasp of its forelock. Verily, my Lord is on the straight path. (The truth)”
(11:55-56)
“…Indeed my prayer, my sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allaah, the Lord of the worlds” (6:162)
well ye intazaar lamba hi hoga kion k i dont get time ........ for that but i will try ok ? y u have choosen this topic
In Islamic history, we are told that Prophet PBUH was under a majic spell, and later he was informed to read Surah Kafiroon, Ikhlaas, Falaq, Naas to counter that majic. The intention should be that Allah SWT will help you/benefit when you read these surahs.
But for any other surahs, I don't know what the source is and I don't know why a form of "taweez", why not person read 4 Qul surahs continuously or occasionally or when encountered with majic.
Where does the tricky form 'taweez' comes in? what source?
May Allah SWT guide us all towards right and help us follow the right
buttJee: I didn't start this thread. I only wrote what I believe in. Then you came bashing me of not knowing anything and that sahaba used to practice/use taweez. Now that I've asked you to provide me with the references in Quran & Sunnah stating that taweez isn't a form of shirk, you started making excuses (could be genuine).
No offence, but please stay out until you can come up with refrences supporting your point of view.
Changez_like: Jazakallah khair for sharing that bit! I totally agree with you! I don't remember Prophet (SAW) using any taweez when he was under a spell rather he used to recite the 4 quls and not taweez.
"I put my trust in Allah, my Lord and your Lord! There is not a moving creature, but He has a grasp of its forelock. Verily, my Lord is on the straight path. (The truth)"
(11:55-56)
"...Indeed my prayer, my sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allaah, the Lord of the worlds" (6:162)
Taweez is a cultural (though un-Islamic) phenomenon practiced in certain countries.
I am surprised our resident Pir jee hasn't commented on this yet. It's a good way to make money too. :)
p.s: Changez_like, AnHazoor (saw) was never under a spell. Though the disbelievers tried to do their Paganistic practices of spell bringing and Allah informed AnHazoor (saw) of it and taught him to recite the Surahs. Due to this false belief, Jews mock that (Naozobillah) our beloved AnHazoor (saw) was a lesser of a prophet as he was influenced by the spell while Hazrat Musa (as) didn't.
ahmadjee: Thanks for the clarification. I thought Prophet (SAW) was under a spell. Nevertheless, fact remains that he didn't do no taweez stuff, but he recited the quls.
These peer guys give out free taweez to people first and once they know their customers are totally convinced and believe in them, then they start charging'em money.
Besides Quran isn't something to be hung on walls or around ones neck. You gotta recite it to earn reward and also to make it work for you.
For the all those who believe in taweez... why not get the Quranic verses from your peers and recite'em yourself rather than having them do it for you.
"I put my trust in Allah, my Lord and your Lord! There is not a moving creature, but He has a grasp of its forelock. Verily, my Lord is on the straight path. (The truth)"
(11:55-56)
"...Indeed my prayer, my sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allaah, the Lord of the worlds" (6:162)
well MISS SADIA aap batain to bohat achi kartin hain would u plz tell me how much faitful u are ........ how much iman do u have ......... and how much namazes do u offer daily and how much suparas do u recite everyday
and how much time do u give to this site ???? compare these plz and tell me :S
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Originally posted by buttJee:
well MISS SADIA aap batain to bohat achi kartin hain would u plz tell me how much faitful u are ........ how much iman do u have ......... and how much namazes do u offer daily and how much suparas do u recite everyday
and how much time do u give to this site ???? compare these plz and tell me :S
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now how would that help in your cause? why do you have to get personal? its better to support your notion with Quran and Sunnah than attempting to pull others legs.
May Allah SWT guide us all towards right and help us follow the right
May be you are right, but I got my info from this (as well as from what I learnt at school)
Book 026, Number 5428:
Here:
A’isha reported that a Jew from among the Jews of Banu Zuraiq who was called Labid b. al-A’sam cast spell upon Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) with the result that he (under the influence of the spell) felt that he had been doing something whereas in fact he had not been doing that. (This state of affairs lasted) until one day or during one night Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) made supplication (to dispel its effects). He again made a supplication and he again did this and said to 'A’isha: Do you know that Allah has told me what I had asked Him? There came to me two men and one amongst them sat near my head and the other one near my feet and he who sat near my head said to one who sat near my feet or one who sat near my feet said to one who sat near my head: What is the trouble with the man? He said: The spell has affected him. He said: Who has cast that? He (the other one) said: It was Labid b. A’sam (who has done it). He said: What is the thing by which he transmitted its effect? He said: By the comb and by the hair stuck to the comb and the spathe of the date-palm. He said: Where is tbap He replied: In the well of Dhi Arwan. She said: Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent some of the persons from among his Companions there and then said: 'A’isha. by Allah, its water was yellow like henna and its trees were like heads of the devils. She said that she asked Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as to why he did not burn that. He said: No, Allah has cured me and I do not like that I should induce people to commit any high-handedness in regard (to one another), but I only commanded that it should be buried.
May Allah SWT guide us all towards right and help us follow the right
[This message has been edited by Changez_like (edited May 31, 2002).]
Only Allah (SWT) knows how strong my deen and eeman is. I really can’t tell myself.
I pray 5 times a day on time Alhamdulillah!
I have not been reciting Quran in Arabic for quite some time now because I’ve been reading the translation in English so that I can better understand the Quran and I’m on the 26th para. Once I’m done inshAllah, then I’m gonna start reading in Arabic again and at the same time I’m going to read the tafseer as well inshAllah. But I do occasionally read it in Arabic.
I’m usually online after school either doing my homework (research, projects, typing homework, etc.) or reading material related to Islam or on MSN. I keep refreshing this page (GS) while doing my hw, emails, msn.
Besides, you shouldn’t be concerned about my prayers at all! Only Allah (SWT) knows if my prayers and recitation of Quran is being accepted or going in vain.
Btw…I’m still waiting for your explanation on taweez! Don’t try to change the topic here please.
Thanks!
You worry about your deeds and lemme worry about mine. You won’t be held accountable for my prayers and I won’t be held accountable for yours.
Changez_like: Jazakallah khair for sharing the hadith. I kinda skimmed through it because I’ve read something similar before.
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“I put my trust in Allah, my Lord and your Lord! There is not a moving creature, but He has a grasp of its forelock. Verily, my Lord is on the straight path. (The truth)”
(11:55-56)
“…Indeed my prayer, my sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allaah, the Lord of the worlds” (6:162)
Jazak’Allahu Khairun brother, i was looking for a similar hadiths
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‘Rabbee zidnee`ilmaa’
My Lord! Increase me in knowledge.[20:114]
The Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) said:
“Whoever sets out on a path to seek knowledge, Allaah will make easy his path to Paradise.”
[Saheeh Muslim]
This isn’t something new. He probably couldn’t find anything supporting ‘taweez’ in the light of Quran and Sunnah so he had to change the topic.
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“I put my trust in Allah, my Lord and your Lord! There is not a moving creature, but He has a grasp of its forelock. Verily, my Lord is on the straight path. (The truth)”
(11:55-56)
“…Indeed my prayer, my sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allaah, the Lord of the worlds” (6:162)
As-Salaamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakaatuhu my brothers and sisters in Islam,
This discussion is getting no where, as we all can see, no one has really brought anything 'saheeh' from the Quran or Sunnah, and even if you did, do you think it'll make a difference to him?? The one who has been guided by Allah, none can misguide him, and the one who had been lead astray by Allah, non can guide him. So just some 'naasiha' DROP IT!
Allaah, the Most High says: "None dispute about the signs of Allaah, except those who disbelieve." (Soorah Ghaafir 40:4)
At-Tirmidhee reports a hasan hadeeth from Abu Umaamah, who said: "Allaah's Messenger (saws) said, "A people never went astray after being upon guidance except through disputation." Then Allaah's Messenger (saws) recited this Ayah : "This they set forth to you, only by way of argument. Nay, but they are a contentious people." (Soorah az-Zukhruf 43:58)
Al-Aajurree reports in ash-Sharee'ah (p.57) that a man came to al-Hasan (al-Basree) and said, "O Abu Sa'eed! Let me debate with you about the Religion." Al-Hasan replied, "As for me, I know my religion, If you have lost your Religion then go and look for it."
'Umar ibn 'Abdul-'Azeez, rahimahullaah, said, "He who allows his Religion to be open to disputing will frequently change over." See Jaami' Bayaanil 'Ilm (2/113)
Allahu Alim
'Rabbee zidnee`ilmaa'
My Lord! Increase me in knowledge.[20:114]
The Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) said:
"Whoever sets out on a path to seek knowledge, Allaah will make easy his path to Paradise."
[Saheeh Muslim]
aapki: Jazakallah khair, but I really want an answer from him now. He has said that the Sahaba used to practice and believe in taweez. I really wanna see him quote ahadith or quotes from some other source.
"I put my trust in Allah, my Lord and your Lord! There is not a moving creature, but He has a grasp of its forelock. Verily, my Lord is on the straight path. (The truth)"
(11:55-56)
"...Indeed my prayer, my sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allaah, the Lord of the worlds" (6:162)
Sister have fun waiting :)
'Rabbee zidnee`ilmaa'
My Lord! Increase me in knowledge.[20:114]
The Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) said:
"Whoever sets out on a path to seek knowledge, Allaah will make easy his path to Paradise."
[Saheeh Muslim]