Taseer appointed on Musharraf's advice

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It is becoming clear as to who the enemies of this country are, from one drunkard to another.

LAHORE: Former President Pervez Musharraf has said the country is facing many challenges and conspiracies are being hatched against it. He said President Asif Ali Zardari appointed Salmaan Taseer as Governor Punjab in consultation with him.

Talking to journalists after condoling death of Pakistan Muslim League-Q Chief Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain’s mother here on Thursday, Musharraf said Pakistan is facing serious challenges, however, he hoped that these would be tackled.

As regards Lahore attack, former president strongly condemned Lahore attack and termed it a conspiracy to weaken the country.

“There should be no conjecture or statement without substantive evidence”, he added.

He said the government should improve training standard of law enforcing agencies so that they are prepared for any eventuality. Musharraf said he is in contact with Army Chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani and lauded his services for the country.

In the meeting, former federal minister Javed Ashraf Qazi and others were also present.

Zardari consulted me on Taseer’s appointment: Musharraf

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so what does it take to remove a president constitutionally?

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Musharraf has also begged Chaudhry Shujaat to join the PPP, but Shujaat has shown reservations. There appears to be a difference of opinion b/w Pervez Elahi (who is leaning to the PPP) and Shujaat, who seems to be leaning to the PML[N].

what does the word "RASAD-GAAH" [رصد گاہ] MEAN?
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so zardari removes musharraf, but after removing him is still taking advise from him and even looking for his help to further bolster PPP.

is anything surprising anymore

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^ Yes because Mushy had to comply, it was the wishes of the sufayd house he worships along with Jirdari. You are forgetting its been almost a year and a half since he took off his wardi and hes still sitting in the Army House. Ayaashi pat rahey hain yeh sab Pakistan key behest par.

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so is the rest of PPP leadership in on it or they got hoodwinked into it, as they used the bhutto name card to get elected, they knew this game was being played and just did nto care, or were they part of this from the get go.

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The rest of the PPP cant do jack. The one who can, Gillani is already getting into tussles with Zardari and just recently hes done a few things to irk Zardari off. I wont be surprised if he gets a thudda soon. The rest of the PPP was sidelined when the NRO came into being. The rest of the PPP knows if they try anything, the fool proof plan by that senile dictator will backfire, i.e. party loyalty act where thye get disqualified from the assembly if they switch sides. We are dealing with shrewd thugs who know what they are doing.

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sad to see that these people did not have the sense to go against zardari when they had the chance. had they bothered to oppose him claiming the party as something he got in jahaiz, maybe there would have been someone else in the president's position.

so how is a president removed in Pakistan? what is the process..

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^ I doubt the process would work, considering this presidential rule does not jibe with the 71 parliamentary constitution. A vote of no-confidence is the only way to get rid of him but with his lota parties its impossible. Secondly, even if it would, Zardari has already violated one of the rules, i.e. being a mentally sane person, seriously he is forgetting all the claims he made about losing his mind and reports by the British health agencies about his mental disorder.

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so basically majority of the elected folks are not going to pass a no confidence against him?

challo thats comforting :rolleyes:

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why would they, the moment anyone does, they are automatically kicked out of the parliament thanks to a bill Musharraf was so instrumental in passing. If you have qualms about that bill, you know who to thank for. Read about that ex-Mushy chamchi Kashmala, and how she was kicked out of her own party for saying stuff, let alone voting against her ex-masters. Again, we should know who we can thank for the irregularities in the present system.

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understood, and they also can not just change that bill right? just a bunch of haram khor stooges sitting on their hands...hmmm

so what it boils down to is that they would not sacrifice their seats to do the right thing.

They should have had more balls and opposed zardari taking over the party back when he showed up with that hand written rag.

oh well..

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Or we should rephrase that, 'he' should not tinkered the system for his own benefits. Laws exist to keep goons and criminals out of the parliament, if you get rid of, or manipulate those laws, you cannot expect democracy to work. This is why dictatorship has failed us, and has made sure democracy fails too.

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okay so he did stuff, now what is it going to take to change it? and why are elected people not changing it unless they dont give a rodents posterior.
are we going to be sitting here 10 years from nwo saying oh back in 2007 musharraf did this or that. yeah it was wrong, now what? how does it get changed.

the reasons are clear, but if the elected leadership is not going to do anything about it then it is no longer reasons but mere convenient excuses.

the only thing that can make sure that democracy fails right now is the democracy itself. Would the people do what is right, or what is convenient personally.

so far it looks like they are all doing what is convenient for them. There is nothing stopping them from changing the law, introducing a bill and overturning

or have we moved from a military dictatorship to a feudal dictatorship and the president is the emperor while the assembiles just serve as rubber stamps?

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Firstly, his admirers to admit what he did was wrong, so another such blunder of a leaders does not get showered the praise that Musharraf got. Dont blame the people, blame the rodent dictator.

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are we going to be sitting here 10 years from nwo saying oh back in 2007 musharraf did this or that. yeah it was wrong, now what? how does it get changed.

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The way things are going, and the repercussions of his failure in an important decade, perhaps yes.

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the reasons are clear, but if the elected leadership is not going to do anything about it then it is no longer reasons but mere convenient excuses.

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Doesnt help if the new leadership is following his league and offering sajdaz to the same place.

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the only thing that can make sure that democracy fails right now is the democracy itself. Would the people do what is right, or what is convenient personally.

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Nope, it will take a bloody mess because these scumbags, aka Zardari/Mushy have made sure that democracy does not succeed, i.e. giving president all the power, party changing bills etc.

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so far it looks like they are all doing what is convenient for them. There is nothing stopping them from changing the law, introducing a bill and overturning

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Why would they? lol man seriously, why do you think the PPP would throw away the golden spoon that they have in their hands right now? You cant expect all this from them, because the dictator before gave them this spoon illegally.

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or have we moved from a military dictatorship to a feudal dictatorship and the president is the emperor while the assembiles just serve as rubber stamps?
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I would call it a civilian dictatorship, whre the military dictator sold out and gave a criminal control after some assurances, for his continued lifetime supply of booze.

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agreed, lets call a spade a spade, and based on their kartoot neither musharraf, zardari, nawaz, altaf or qazi should be in a political party let alone lead it or hold public office. they should not be elected to the mohalla homeowners committee let alone anything else.

and no matter how PPP at large got the golden spoon, it is really in their power to do what is right or what is not right, and the fact that they are not doing what is right should be remembered by all next time they claim to be representing the people.

sadly their opposition may be talking principles right now but when they were in power, and when they will be in power again (it will happen) it will be the same old stuff from them too.

Real change is needed, But for that people need to stop giving their preferred goon a free pass on everything.

There were those who were..and are calling zardari some saviour, not bothering to look at his history, now there are those who are suporting nawaz, not looking at his history.

Until these personality based politics end, nothing is going to change. It is going to be up to people to demand change. if they can be out for dharnas and different marches and demonstrations for their fav idiot, they can do it for a chance at change.