Tampa Islamic Center set on fire....

Islamic Center Set Afire
By KEITH MORELLI The Tampa Tribune

Published: Apr 13, 2007

TOWN - 'N COUNTRY - Local, state and federal investigators sifted through the ashes of a deliberately set fire at the Islamic Education Center of Florida on Thursday morning and tried to allay fears the arson was a crime of hate. They couldn’t say for sure, however.

Initial reports said there was an explosion, but responding firefighters said were unaware of any blast.

Area Muslims feared the torching of the building, which serves as a mosque and educational center for children, was a hate crime, the next progressive step from a burglary nine months ago in which the culprits set fire to several religious artifacts inside.

“It is a concern that this is a hate crime,” said Ahmed Bedier, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations in Tampa, a Muslim advocacy group. Fueling the supposition was the fact that the FBI was at the scene collecting evidence.

FBI spokesman Al Rivera would not say for sure, though, that the arson was a hate crime.

“At this point, this is just an arson investigation,” he said Thursday evening

He said the FBI would be investigating any arson attempt at any house of worship, because of the civil rights issues.

Single Room Damaged
The fire, the damage of which was limited to one room, was caused by someone who splashed a flammable liquid through a broken window and down the outside of the building, fire officials said.

The alarm came in shortly before 10 a.m. Thursday in this working-class community made up of older townhouses. A neighbor reported hearing an explosion and seeing smoke and fire coming from the L-shaped building at 6450 Rockpointe Drive, west of George Road between Hillsborough Avenue and Memorial Highway.

Both gates along the 6-foot-high, chain-link fence were locked, said Hillsborough Fire Rescue Battalion Chief Ernie Wargo. They had to be cut to allow firefighters onto the property. No one was inside the center at the time, and no one was injured, he said.

Fire damage was limited to a room on the east side of the building, he said.

“There’s a lot of smoke damage and broken windows,” he said. "There doesn’t appear to be any structural damage.

“We put it out pretty quick,” Wargo said.

It took 20 minutes to extinguish the blaze. During that time, firefighters recovered a plastic gallon jug on the ground outside the building that reeked of a flammable liquid, investigators said.

The center has been the target of vandalism in the past, neighbors said, but mostly by juveniles who broke windows or damaged property outside.

Bedier said the center has been there for 15 years and Thursday morning’s arson was the fourth time over the past 18 months the building had been vandalized or broken into. The most recent occasion was nine months ago, when burglars set fire to the religious artifacts inside.

He said he hoped law enforcement officers would catch the arsonists, as area Muslims fear the next time will be worse.

“Obviously,” he said, “when ever a house of worship, particularly a Muslim house of worship, is attacked, our concern is that it is a hate crime.”

Federal authorities told him they are not ruling out hate as a motive, he said.

“This was not an accident,” he said. “This was arson.”

No Problem With Neighbors
Jabbar Al-Mashahdani, a center caretaker, said during the week, people are seldom there. Weekends are different. Muslims attend religious services and children, up to 30, ages 6 to 14, attend classes.

Never, he said, have people had a problem with the neighbors. “It’s a good relationship. When we’re not here, they take care of the building. And we appreciate that,” he said.

Bruce Tokarski, who lives adjacent the center, said he moved into his home a year and a half ago and had heard some flippant remarks about a terrorist camp behind the fence.

He watched as children ran around the playground and adults mingled under the trees and played soccer. His fears disappeared.

“This is a really quiet neighborhood,” he said.

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I just found out about this news, very sad and heart breaking. We used to visit this mosque in ramzan or on eid couple years back. Later we found other mosques that were close to our home and were in somewhat safe areas therefore we stopped visiting this one. Still this is very sad…but this is a lesson for those who go out killing non believers and burning churches and synagogues. When your own people are killed and a mosque you used to pray in is set on fire, make you understand what other people go through when their people are killed and their religious places are burnt or attacked. So this is a lesson for everyone who spreads hatred for other religions and communities.

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very sad...

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Tolerance eh?

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This happened in Florida; its the state that help elect Bush against Gore and also has another Bush as a state governor.

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Blah blah blah. Whine whine whine. Do you zealots wonder why nonmuslims and muslims alike hate you?

Because you've hijacked Islam. You've made people associate Islam with close minded ignorant idiots Muslims. The ones who drain social services only to piss on American soil. The ones who stay indoors and think their neighbors are satan worshippers. The ones who want Americans to become Muslims.

Middle class is justified in hating you. We dont blame them. We understand why they hate Muslims, and it's because of you threaten them.

Sadly, in the end, it's contributing members of society that have their mosques burned down.

P.S. Crist is the incumbent. Not Bush. Smarty pants.

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^ yeah, blame the victims.. :clap:

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^ You forgot something

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An Islamic center was burnt down and you're pretty much blaming the Muslims for it, hence, this "blame hte victim" mentality.

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I'm not a self hating Muslim. There is not one variation of Islam. My variation is what I'm proud of. I contribute to society, I mix with other people and I have my mosque burned down.I'm the collateral damage in a war against anything "not-you".

The variation of Islam I'm ashamed of is: the variation that supports martial law, oppression of women, vengefulness against the west, condemnation of anything nonmuslim. This arson case is an example of two radical outcasts colliding. Racist muslim vs. Racist. I blame radical muslims for it just as much as I blame radical nonmuslims. But I dont blame myself.I am the victim of their war.

Peace.

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hskhan, stop acting like a smartass, this is a unwarranted, and the last person to blame for this should be a Muslim! This should be condemned and pressure should be put on the US Government so that they make an example out of the people who did this, and no one dares do such a thing in future!

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If it would have been a church, they would have said that it is a hate crime, act of terrorism but since it is a mosque, they are ruling out the possibility of hate crime and think it is an accident. How can it be an accident?

In my initial post, I didn't blame muslims, just wanted to make a point that when our people go and attack churches, etc. The people from those communities go through the same trauma and there is no justification, nomatter who does it. At the end it is the participating community that suffers.

So yea, this not an accident, it is a hate crime. It should be condemed. Tampa has a very peaceful Muslim community, every year they are they sponsors of a main charity event in the city. So it is really heart breaking seeing a mosque set on fire and specially when that mosque doesn't spread hatred and is actively involved in the welfare of other communities.

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Hey Lusi, is that the Bearss Ave one that got built like few years ago? One thing I wanted to share, in Vancouver a mosque was torched and reduced to ashes - this happened before 9/11. They actually rebuilt the place and now it's 5 times bigger than before. It serves as the main Islamic center in Greater Vancouver.

Overall, Tampa is a great city in terms of tolerance.

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Blah blah blah. Whine whine whine. Do you self haters realize that democracy in America has been hijacked by new-cons who have infiltrated every level of the US govt. and labelled every muslim into a suspect or a terrorist sympathizer.

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We've had a few pig heads thrown in our Mosque plenty of times before now and foul language scratched on the door, I'm sure if they could they'd burn us down too..

Only Allaah can save us now, everybody hates us and it's only going to get worse with the increasing hate propoganda everyday...

These bloody Kuffaar , most of them hate us and want to annhilate us, I'm not being paranoid because no matter where we turn these days we're being hated on, just today I heard the vile Indian Rahul Gandhi say it is there goal to break up Pakistan..

This is nothing it's just the beginning, wait till we all get sent to concentration camp gitmo and you mod/munafiqs shant be spared.

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No it is close by Hillsborough Ave, on george st & rock point, after you pass the vetrans hwy.

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hskhan:

I can't believe you are defending and justifying what those people did to the Mosque... Going by your logic what the "Islamic" terrorists do to American civilians is justified because of what Western goverments have been doing to the Muslims...

Stay away from making personal remarks against guppies.

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there is no excuse for any sort of terrorism, whether it is some jackass attacking a mosque in US, or some moron blowing himself up and taking some innocent civilans with him in Jerusalem.

The sooner we can get that in our heads the better off we would be.

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Yep, some muslims must’ve threatened civilization, otherwise why wud anyone urn an Islamic centre.:bummer:

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The pressure to integrate...they will be only be happy when you are like them...no-one is tolerant of values that are alien to them...so either be like them or accept the consequences...
Its a pussy way to do things but it gets its message across...we dont like you so do as your told...

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Yeah, Rahul Gandhi took it as a feather in cap of his family and their leadership... One of their three great accomplishments apparently..
Its stuff like that, that makes me glad his family got what they deserved.