Tamil Tigers claim second air raid

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merely because the name contains Allah? perhaps your unaware that "atallah" is a pretty common Christian name in Lebanon, I personally know one, in arabic Allah means God. So while you may be able to prove it if you try a little harder they're not an exclusively shia/islamic group just by their name.

whether or not every terrorist in the world is an Islamic terrorist or Muslim terrorist is a divergence from the thread topic though, so I wont take you up on that list. but just to serve a counter example, how would you characterize Kurdish militants? Muslim or Islamic?

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What, then, is the            difference between followers of a religious cult who indulge in mass            suicide and the Tigers of LTTE?
         LTTE is also known            for its suicide attacks. Known as Black Tigers, the suicide bombers            are a glorified lot. The glorification of Black Tigers is part of the            process of indoctrination and manipulation of their minds. A variety            of subterfuges are used to manipulate their minds. LTTE considers Prabhakaran            to be a demi-god and to meet him in person is considered a rare honour.            Prabhakaran has very carefully cultivated this image. Before the mission,            a Black Tiger eats his or her "Last Supper" with the leader,            which is considered the greatest honour. But for most independent observers            a sense of abhorrence to this whole drama is inescapable.
        The choice of targets            for the suicide bomber reveals the mind of Prabhakaran. One of the first            targets of an LTTE human bomb using the suicide belt was Rajiv Gandhi,            who was assassinated by LTTE suicide bomber Dhanu, flowers in her hair            and all decked up, at Sriperumbudur on 21 May 1991. Rajiv Gandhi more            than any Indian leader, was sympathetic to the legitimate demands of            Sri Lankan Tamils and helped them in their fight to win a place of equality.            And yet, he was assassinated on the eve of Lok Sabha elections in 1991,            because Prabhakaran feared that Rajiv would not be favourably disposed            towards him and the cause of an independent Eelam. Similarly, on the            eve of the 1994 Sri Lankan election, the LTTE assassinated UNP presidential            candidate, Gamini Dissanayake, for fear that a government under him            would receive Indian assistance. Prabhakaran did not hesitate to order            the elimination of Premadasa, with whom he had collaborated to force            the withdrawal of IPKF from Sri Lanka. The incumbent Sri Lankan President,            Chandrika Kumaratunga had the good fortune to have survived an attempt            on her life in another perfidious act by an LTTE suicide bomber. Ironically,            Chandrika, amongst the Sri Lankan politicians has shown the greatest            sensitivity to Tamil aspirations. 
        The LTTE suicide bomber            is motivated by many factors. It will be too simplistic to assume that            motivation comes primarily from commitment to the cause and loyalty            to Prabhakaran. In the last two decades, death and destruction have            ravaged Tamil society. A whole generation of young Tamils have been            scarred by the brutalities of the Sri Lankan security forces on the            one hand, and the fascism of Prabhakaran on the other. Caught as they            are between the devil and the deep sea, many young Tamils see self-destruction            as a form of revenge and martyrdom. 
        It is not that Prabhakaran            is intolerant of political opponents only; he is equally intolerant            and suspicious of his own comrades. Anyone whose loyalty to him is even            remotely suspect is instantaneously eliminated. The killing of Mahatya,            for long his second-in-command, is an example. 
        It has been argued that            Prabhakaran is the sole representative of Sri Lankan Tamils. All major            Tamil parties and groups under the banner of Tamil National Alliance            (TNA) openly backed candidates approved by the Tigers in the parliamentary            elections held in December 2001. But the University Teachers Human Right            (UTHR), a respected and independent group of Tamil academics, formerly            of Jaffna University had this to say:7
        "The taming of TULF            (Tamil Eelam Liberation Front) has an abject lesson in terror tactics            of LTTE. One cannot play safe with the LTTE. The TULF Members of Parliament            killed by the LTTE thought themselves to be playing safe. They all but            acknowledged its totalitarian claim, never criticised it publicly and            remained obligingly silent when LTTE killers one by one picked off their            own colleagues.8            People are thus driven to be cautious to the point of not risking doing            anything that may be taken amiss by the LTTE. It is a degree of terror            the State cannot match."
        The terrorist attack            in the USA on 11 September 2001 by the Al Qaida network of Osama bin            Laden that killed nearly 3,900 people and the consequent international            campaign against terrorism has compelled Prabhakaran to moderate his            style and rhetoric. His recent assertion that the Tamil struggle is            "neither separatism nor terrorism" is only a clever ploy to            gain international sympathy. The hardening of world opinion has forced            Prabhakaran to revise his strategy. The present truce between the LTTE            and the Sri Lankan government has been forced on him by the countries            like the US, the UK, Canada and Australia turning the financial screws            on the LTTE. That the LTTE would be unable to continue its terror in            Sri Lanka without the financial support collected via transnational            regions is quite obvious.
        While killings by LTTE            are presently finely targeted to kill or paralyse by fear any person            or group showing signs of independence, it has found newer ways to consolidate            and expand the gains made by terror. Dr Rajini Thiranegama, a senior            lecturer in Jaffna University and a founder member of UTHR, later believed            to be murdered by the LTTE, had this to say about the LTTE:
        "The LTTE religion            is hierarchical. The common man counted for little except as devotees.            Militants from other groups, whatever their contribution, were counted            as animals or anti-social elements. Only the LTTE could make sacrifices,            be counted as martyrs and become gods. One should not underestimate            such a religion which has a semblance to the official religion of the            Third Reich."
        There is optimism in            the Sri Lankan government circles over the latest truce and the Memorandum            of Understanding the Tigers signed with it in February 2002 as a part            of the peace process brokered by Norway. In the backdrop of past experience            of negotiating with the Tigers, Wickremasinghe is taking a huge risk            in trusting Prabhakaran. Prabhakaran had no faith in the Indo-Sri Lanka            Accord of 1987 and he had made up his mind to sabotage it even before            the negotiations were concluded. The rest is history. The LTTE entered            into negotiations with Premadasa with the sole purpose of getting the            IPKF out of Sri Lanka but the honeymoon between the two lasted only            till the IPKF was pulled out from the island. Premadasa was assassinated            by the LTTE after he had served its purpose. Chandrika Kumaratunga would            have met the same fate except that she survived the assassination attempt.            
        Many analysts have cited            the example of the Oslo peace process between the Israelis and the Palestinians            as a way ahead in resolving the Sri Lankan crisis. But where is the            Oslo peace plan today? Writing in an article, "The J&K Peace            Process: Chasing the Chimera" KPS Gill and Ajai Sahni observe,            "Despite popular contemporary rhetoric, unfortunately a sentiment            in favour of peace is insufficient foundation for an effective process            to secure peace. In a context where even a single player considers violence            a legitimate instrument of policy, the resolution of disputes demands            for firmer grounding in facts and the Oslo peace process was as divorced            from such a foundation as could be conceivable.9"            In the context of ethnic war in Sri Lanka, Prabhakaran has not given            up violence as a legitimate means to achieve his goal of an independent            Eelam. The past record of negotiations between the LTTE and the Government            of Sri Lanka leads one to conclude that the Memorandum of Understanding            signed in February this year is only a clever ploy by Prabhakaran to            bid for time and gain international recognition. He also knows that            public memory is short and hopes that the indignation of the Western            countries over the 11 September terrorist attack would peter out sooner            than later. 

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Can you give some examples of muslims terrorist and an Islamic terrorist organisations. Ur egs of turkey doesnt validate your argument. Nobody considers them as a muslim terrorist force.
I give you my take on this,
religious terrorist organization and religious terrorist are hardcore followers of a religion and justify their terror activities and recruits people based on some religious principle.
While PLO is not a muslim terrorist group, Hamas is.
LTTE does not belong to this classification. They are tamil terrorist. They fight for their ethnicity and language, not for their religious belief system or for the establishment of a religious state, neither do they justify their act based on a religious principle or recruit people based on a religious obligation.
Even the Sinhalese dont address the LTTE as a Hindu organization.

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Not only Sinhalese...even European Union and USA, who have declared LTTE as terrorist organization never considered them as religious radicals.

I am still wondering how this idea of LTTE being a Hindu radical terrorist group popped up in few peoples mind here.

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Im not sure who doesnt classify PLO as a muslim militancy, but anyway Im done making the same point over and over. i'll respond if theres anything new that hasnt been said.

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not merely because of the name...it's just the most obvious indicator. given that there is no dearth of evidence to support the fact that infusion of islamic ideology into the movement has taken place, i figured my comment would go uncontested. religion is blatantly intertwined with the political agenda of hezbollah.

i don't know if i'd call hezbollah militants "islamic terrorists"....but if they are only "muslim terrorists", then the tamil tigers are "terrorists that incidentally happen to be hindu or nominally hindu"...not "hindu terrorists".

obviously nobody will claim that the tamil tigers fight in the name of hinduism. however, they are even further detached from a religious tint. they don't call themselves the "bhagwan tigers" nor do they invoke religious commandments in their televised broadcasts, etc....no hindu flavor to the movement whatsoever.

in such a case, i don't think anything more than "terrorist" is warranted in a description.

purely ideological = "islamist" terrorist
clear religious intertwining= "muslim" terrorist
incidental affiliation with islam = terrorist

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whether or not every terrorist in the world is an Islamic terrorist or Muslim terrorist is a divergence from the thread topic though, so I wont take you up on that list. but just to serve a counter example, how would you characterize Kurdish militants? Muslim or Islamic?
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neither. i'm not an expert on kurdish militancy, but from what i'm aware of...a group like the PKK would fall in a category similar to the tamil tigers..."terrorists that incidentally happen to be muslim or nominally muslim".

but i've never heard anybody refer to such groups as "muslim terrorists" let alone "islamic terrorists"...so this is not a relevant group.

if we are honest with ourselves, i think it's pretty obvious that the tamil tigers are being termed "hindu terrorists" simply because some people are desperate to attribute terrorism to other religious groups for a change, not because it actually makes any sense to call them that.