Talking Vagina's

It would be interesting to see how our righteous and virtuous MMA reacts to this (my comment(s) in italics):

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The Vagina Monologues takes message to Pakistan
Writer calls play’s debut ‘profound’ in a society not known for women’s rights
VICTORIA BURNETT

Monday, March 17, 2003

ISLAMABAD – From Manhattan to Mexico City, it has raised eyebrows and challenged perceptions of a part of the female anatomy that in most societies remains taboo. But The Vagina Monologues opened a new frontier over the weekend in its mission to spread its message of sexual liberation and women’s rights.

In a discreet hotel conference room in the Pakistani capital, an audience wept, gasped and screamed with laughter as a cast of eight women, clad in scarlet saris, salwar kameez (loose shirts and baggy pants) and red-painted toenails, performed Eve Ensler’s award-winning play.

“I cried like mad,” said Sheherbano Burki, a management consultant in Islamabad who was seeing the play for the first time. “It was very emotionally exhausting.”

The play, which explores the issues of sexuality, repression and rape through a series of explicit monologues that are touching, funny and sickening by turn, would be deemed risqué in almost any society. But in a country where a deep-rooted tribal culture and strict interpretation of Islam means limited liberties for most women, the play breaks every taboo in the book.

The majority of Pakistani women do not show the tops of their heads in public, let alone discuss what is underneath their loose-fitting clothes.

“In Pakistan, the flesh of your arm is a controversial place,” said Nadia Jamil, a well-known actress from the ancient Mogul city of Lahore, who volunteered to perform. “Vaginas are a place [that] you just don’t go there.”

Ms. Jamil and the other cast members, including Ms. Ensler, were brought together by Nighat Risvi, co-founder of AMAL, a local non-governmental organization that promotes human development. The audience of 150 was by invitation only – **it was considered too risky to open the performance to the general public **-- and mostly female, with the exception of a few male relatives. Hotel security guards hovered outside the door.

The performance formed part of a circuit of events sponsored by V-Day, an organization Ms. Ensler set up as an offshoot of the play. The non-profit group donates funds to organizations that work to stop violence against women and girls. Hibaaq Osman, a Somali Muslim who is the special representative for V-Day, said she had been keen to put on the play in an Islamic country.

“I know if it can happen here, it can happen anywhere,” said Ms. Osman, **who rechristened the Pakistani capital “Vaginabad.”

“Having these Pakistani women talking about vibrators – that’s what it’s all about.” ** (* Hasn’t it always been?*)

It wasn’t just the shock factor that lent the Pakistani performance of the famous play its intensity. The play’s darker monologues – that of an abused child, of a Serbian woman who is raped by a group of soldiers, or of an Afghan woman whose world is reduced to a living death under her burqa – have a keen resonance in a country where the concept of rape is tenuous and so-called honour killings claim hundreds of lives every year. Honour killings are intended to punish behaviour deemed to be immoral, such as extramarital sex.

Given women’s treatment in Pakistani society, the performance itself was an audacious one, Ms. Ensler said.

“The fact that women were prepared to get up this evening and do this was so brave and so profound. It’s about breaking down walls,” she said. “It was very difficult doing this in the U.S. at first. It wasn’t like ‘Yeah! The vaginas are here!’ There is no place in the world where there aren’t walls to be broken down.”

While the audience was enrapt, the performers recognized that the play was not to everybody’s taste. Bilquis Tahira, an activist and cast member, said one friend told her it was “vulgar.”

interesting :hoonh:

Seriously, women have far better rights in PK than that article stated. I really hate these narrow-minded, 5th hand details westerners have of pakistan...not the point of the thread, but it got me annoyed

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"In Pakistan, the flesh of your arm is a controversial place," said Nadia Jamil, a well-known actress from the ancient Mogul city of Lahore, who volunteered to perform. "Vaginas are a place [that] you just don't go there."

People seem to find their way ok judging by the 9 or 10 kids in every household.

they had something going on at the univ about the vagina monologues...ok, well now i know what it is.

I think that's pretty cool they had this show. And Pakistan is not as backwards as they make it...at least in the cities...in village areas, it is pretty bad, but then again its a village !

braather Gamma, if your vagina could talk what would it say? who would it help? how would it take the injust and tyranny so very rampant in this world?

*if your vagina could talk what would it say? *
sishter Seeker it would ask for clean cotten panties and world peace

** who would it help?**
only the pure and the chaste .. if u know what i am coming at

** how would it take the injust and tyranny so very rampant in this world? **
by giving ugly people a chance too

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Originally posted by Gamma Dilation: *
**if your vagina could talk what would it say? *

sishter Seeker it would ask for clean cotten panties and world peace

** who would it help?**
only the pure and the chaste .. if u know what i am coming at

** how would it take the injust and tyranny so very rampant in this world? **
by giving ugly people a chance too
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braather Gamma, your vagina is very profound. It commands the astuteness of thousand intellectuals. Braather Gamma, your vagina is the chosen one. I am sure it would give much needed relief to this gloomy world and alleviate its trials and tribulations.

hmmm....chatterbox.....the movie that is....

seen the play.... was performed on ma campus!

Interesting.

Have you guys seen it? Its actually really interesting. The vagina is just symbolic of the women. She talks about important issues such as FGM (female genital mutation) and she talks about things like birth. Its really funny at points and serious at others-but its not really about the vagina like you all think..

:)

vagina or the monologues? in the case of former :blush:

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*Originally posted by 50Cent: *
Seriously, women have far better rights in PK than that article stated. I really hate these narrow-minded, 5th hand details westerners have of pakistan...not the point of the thread, but it got me annoyed

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ryte on
get real peepz pk isn't da same as we used to think everything goes on der 2 as u wud c in other european countries only its matter of time until u wil c it in public 2 n den it wil da end of da world

Yeah, Kashmiri Angel is right, it's obvious that pakiland has become very advanced, people even act and talk like they are niggaz from da hood, aight!!! wuuurd.

*Moderator * please note the use of "N" word in the above post and take the appropriate action

Thanks
an active and concerned guppie

:rolleyes:

it was interesting play, i was sort of part of it! some of the stories are just so funny, can't believe those are real!