Taliban's are running - Army Chief Speak up !

At last some good news from motherland,.. and looks like we found a “man” in Pakistan. The one and only Chief of Army: General Ashfaz Pervaiz Kiyani

Taliban Begins Pullout of Seized District in Pakistan
Source: Taliban Begins Pullout of Seized District in Pakistan - WSJ.com

The Taliban began withdrawing Friday from a district it seized this week near Pakistan’s capital after the country’s military chief warned the militants would not be allowed to “impose their way of life” on the nation.

Gen. Ashfaq Kayani’s statement was widely seen as a sign that military action against the insurgents was imminent, and the Taliban’s retreat from the Buner district appeared to head off a possible military showdown and salvage a peace deal between the government and militants.

But the fundamental challenge to Pakistan remained. The militants are firmly in control of the Swat Valley, north of Buner, and the government and military are struggling to find a cohesive strategy to halt their advance and reassert authority over areas already under insurgent control, say Pakistan officials and foreign diplomats.

**The military’s initial silence on the Taliban’s advance into Buner also reinforced U.S. and European doubts about the armed forces" commitment to battling the militants, who have deep ties to al Qaeda and the insurgents battling American soldiers in Afghanistan.

“We’re still trying to sort exactly what’s happened – or what is happening – up in Buner,” said a Western diplomat, adding that it wasn’t clear if even Pakistan’s leaders had a clear read out on the situation.**

But “I don’t think this is over. These guys aren’t going to disappear. They’ve got Swat,” the diplomat said. “I’m afraid Pakistan doesn’t recognize the threat.”

Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani sought to assuage such fears Friday, saying in a speech to the National Assembly that Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal was safe and urging lawmakers to show the “moral courage” to stop the Taliban.

But he didn’t call for scrapping the peace deal with the Taliban faction in Swat, the same one that invaded Buner.

The country’s military chief, meanwhile, had strong words from Taliban. In a rare public statement, Gen. Kayani said the army “will not allow the militants to dictate terms to the government or impose their way of life on the civil society of Pakistan.”

The military agreed to the peace deal “to give the reconciliatory forces a chance” and not as a concession to the militants, he said.

A security official said there was a growing sense in the military that it will sooner or later have to renew its fight with the Taliban in Swat, where the government agreed to let the militants impose Islamic law under a February peace deal.

Details of the accord remain murky, but officials said the Taliban’s push this week from Swat was a clear violation of the deal.

“I think we have very different ideas of what a peace deal is,” said the security official. Such a move would be welcomed by U.S. officials alarmed at Pakistan’s tepid initial reaction to the Taliban’s incursion into Buner.

The government dispatched a few hundred Frontier Corps paramilitary police to the district Thursday, only to see them pull out after coming under fire from Taliban fighters.

The Taliban invaded Buner on Tuesday and Wednesday from Swat. There, thousands of Islamist militants from other parts of Pakistan have poured in and set up training camps since the Taliban and government first agreed to a truce in mid-February.

On Friday, Pakistan television news stations broadcast video of dozens of militants–most of them masked with black scarves and b*****shing assault rifles and rocket-propelled grenades – leaving a villa that served as their headquarters in Buner.

They clambered into pickup trucks and minibuses and drove away. The men were convinced to pull back to Swat by a radical cleric who helped broker the initial peace deal, said Syed Mohammed Javed, the top government official in the region.

“We told them that we have a deal, we have a peace agreement. We told them not to become a tool in the hands of someone aiming at sabotaging the peace in the region,” Mr. Javed said according to the Associated Press.

Are they seeking 'permission' from Kayani or PM or President? What happened in Swat Mr Kayani? Actions speak louder than words.

And how many times exactly are we going to give them a chance?

What do you know about Sufi Muhammad & his tehreek? :)

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Now everything is under the hands of Civilian Government, you forget it already?

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President, PM, COAS, Asfandyar discuss Swat situation,4/24/2009 11:43:15 PM

High-level meeting over Swat situation underway at Presidency - GEO.tv

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I still don't understand it. You don't want them in Buner, and yet you're ok with them in Swat?

Absolutely astonishing.

The only thing I can think of is that the army doesn't want to start bombarding the valley or sending in full military force in because the Pakistani people might rebel and protest as they did with Lal Masjid. Maybe they're tryign to let the situation get aggravated so that the Pakistani people can be convinced that these guys are not people to be negotiated with and that there is nothing unIslamic about shedding some of their blood to get them out of the region.

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"Taliban are on the run"....told you so! :)

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He's what they're doing. They're strategically backing out because they swallowed more than they can handle. Or possibly, they are regrouping because of change of plans. This is just one step in a prolonged confusing chess game. You watch, they'll pouce somewhere else.

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I know one thing. Nothing is possible wothout public support and you can not think of public support without giving them justice

Finally PCG you got it, that's the only hurdle in using full force against miscreants. The good news is, the time for Taliban's are finished, they are loosing moral/financial support from the people of Pakistan. I'd say give Swat deal 2 more weeks, .. and the last nail in the coffin of Taliban will be added by people of Pakistan..

Now just watch the cat & mouse show... this is just the beginning !

What do you know about Mullah Fazlullah & Taliban? :)

Doesn't matter, it was army all along 'fighting' the Taliban, failure resulted in "give them a chance", "truce", etc.

There is actual opposition to them in Buner. Apparently 20 Taliban were killed by locals last week. In Swat, its a totally different story.

uote=PyariCgudia;6469927]I still don't understand it. You don't want them in Buner, and yet you're ok with them in Swat?

Absolutely astonishing.

The only thing I can think of is that the army doesn't want to start bombarding the valley or sending in full military force in because the Pakistani people might rebel and protest as they did with Lal Masjid. Maybe they're tryign to let the situation get aggravated so that the Pakistani people can be convinced that these guys are not people to be negotiated with and that there is nothing unIslamic about shedding some of their blood to get them out of the region.
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Ubiquitous foreign propaganda cannot hide the truth. US and their Allies want to convince us to begin fighting the Taiban in Afghanistan so that they can get off the hook.That is why the TTP was nurtured by them, armed by them and named by them as “Taliban”. This is to obfuscater the difference between the the Anti Taliban in Afghanistan and the anti-Pakistan militants in Swat.

The secular vs Islam discussion is typical of the defeatist attitude. These are not the real issues. These are distractions. The REAL and ONLY issue is the occupation of Afghanistan—The US occupation of Afghanistan is the root of all evil. Everything else derives from it. Once that ends, we can solve our issues. Mark my word on it.

They sow the seeds of dissension, and we are dumb enough to go marching for Democracy, Restoration and the rest.
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"The best way to get out of Afghanistan fast is (for) people to think we’re staying*.” Sen. John McCain of Arizona.

Mullah Fazlu is "son in law" of Sufi. Taliban is our creation - now they are enemy... local people of NWFP support them. Enough, eh ??

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Doesn't matter, it was army all along 'fighting' the Taliban, failure resulted in "give them a chance", "truce", etc.
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hahaha.. hahah.. army started operation twice, and halted twice by government, today a strong statement from General Kiyani is enough !

Yes, TTP are enemy agents and we must slaughter all of them wherever we find them. Lead on brother, we are behind you! Mehsud's neck will not be safe for long.

Sure: http://www.paklinks.com/gs/world-affairs/319333-question-who-created-taliban.html

Someone forgot Waziristan operation, numerous “accords” in Musharraf’s regime I guess.

great point brother! very well point i 100% agree with u

:)

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^Indeed,we should drag every talib by the neck and hang him!

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something big is coming, Malakan commissioner is transferred he was known to be having good terms with taliban.

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Maybe army chief needs to wake up and smell the coffee. Taliban are indeed running-running his army out of frontiers.

DAWN.COM | Pakistan | Taliban halt military convoy from entering Swat

     Taliban halt military convoy from entering Swat       

Saturday, 25 Apr, 2009 | 02:59 PM PST |

**MINGORA: As the peace deal with militants in Swat garners criticism, the local Taliban in the restive valley stopped a military convoy from entering Mingora city in the south of the district on Saturday, sources said. **
‘The local Taliban stopped the convoy of security forces from entering Mingora by surrounding it from all sides,’ a source told DawnNews, on condition of anonymity.
Hours later, the convoy was forced to turn back.
***Later, in reaction, military authorities issued a statement condemning the incident. ***
They warned that if such a situation developed again, the armed forces would not hesitate to use force.

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Amry soliders have repeatedly refuse to fight the talibans. General Kiyani knows it....and this is just a lip service ...nobody will fight now