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Taliban-chopped idols in Kabul Museum

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Kabul, Dec.8 (ANI): A collection of pre-Islamic wooden idols chopped up by the Taliban in 2001 in their drive for a pure Muslim state is back on display in Afghanistan after being restored in a project financed by the Austrian government.

The near life-sized idols, some bearing at least a passing resemblance to the mysterious stone statues of Easter Island, went on display this week at the Kabul Museum, which was badly ravaged in Afghanistan’s civil war and Taliban rule until 2001.

The idols come from Kafiristan-literally “Land of the Infidels”-a near legendary region of the majestic Hindu Kush mountain range straddling the borders of eastern Afghanistan and northwestern Pakistan.

They date back to a period of ancestor worship before the region’s tribes people were forced to follow Islam in the late 19th century and the area became known as Afghanistan’s Nuristan province and Pakistan’s Chitral district.

"I consider this to be a most important collection.

It goes back to the time when that population of Nuristan was not yet Islamised and had their own very traditional beliefs in different gods, ghosts and deities, and this of course was very different to the Islamic culture surrounding the so-called Kafirista Hindu Kush," Professor Mak Klimburg, a retired University of Vienna, told a foreign news agency.

The collection is made up of more than a dozen statues brought back as trophies by the Afghan army from its brutal Islamisation drive in the 1890s. It also includes artifacts collected by Klimburg and returned to Afghanistan in 1978 as a gift from the German government, which had purchased his collection.

The Taliban attempted to destroy the idols because they considered such images an affront to their purist concepts of Islam.

In early 2001, the fundamentalists shocked the world with the extent of their intolerance by blowing up two giant stone Buddhas that had overlooked the central town of Bamiyan for some 1,600 years.

Restoration work on 11 of the wooden figures in the museum’s collection was carried out in May by an Italian-Austrian specialist, Giovanni Rindler. Experts at the Kabul Museum estored three others. (ANI)

oh my oh my, my pansy little heart bleeds for the poor statues.. :teary1: :flower1:

Seriously what good are such gods what can’t defend themselves?

You know, big bad evil hindus and kafirs curse Allah every day, nothing happens.

In the Quran it says, "do not curse others god, they will curse yours".

Wah…:k:

Mahmood Ghaznavi, before his last attempt to break the idol of Somnath, was approached by the Rajas and Maharajas of India and told that if he spared the Somnath mandir, they would reward him with anything and everything he asked for…

Mahmood Ghaznavi then replied with one of the most greatest statements in Islamic history, he replied, “I am an idol breaker, not an idol seller…”

This strength of determination and power of belief was what launched an era in Islam considered its golden era…A time when Islam flourished and civilizations prospered…

Today, those idol breakers and carriers of the Islamic emblem have been replaced by lotus eating Muslims who are now engaged in repairing and reestablishing the idols which were once worshipped as gods other than Allah :swt:…

Allah :swt: will InshAllah call to account all those Muslims who aided and helped in reconstructing the idols and will question them on why they helped build other gods and involve themselves in Shirk…

Lajo.. what are your views about Ayodhia? It appears that you are an RSS Shiv Sehna and Sein Fain sympathizer. The religion that promotes and sanctions destroying other religious symbols and places of worship is a dog popo religion. Mahmood of Ghazni was a dog and an sob.

:jhanda:

Firstly, Mahmood Ghaznavi was a noble, respected and just warrior of Allah :swt: and killed many of your ancestors who rose up against him and rightly so…Being of the Dalit caste and being made to serve their Kshatriya masters, he did them favour by putting them out of their misery for which you should be thankful to him…

Secondly, there is a difference between religious symbols and places of worship…That is why it’s not wise to listen with your eyes and see with your ears…Being ignorant and stupid makes you use the wrong orifices for the wrong purposes…:flower1:

So Lajo you are saying that Barbari masjid was rightfully demolished? And Adhwani is a just warrior of Allah?

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So Lajo you are saying that Barbari masjid was rightfully demolished? And Adhwani is a just warrior of Allah?
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Beta Jaan
Start studying hard for history classes.

So you are saying that demolition was majsid was not ok since it was place of worship but demolision of statue is ok since it is symbol of kuffar.

Where did you drive this logic from?

So..Advani and it goons can obviously go and demolish all that is symbol of Muslim rule or religion India as long as it is not a place of worship and it will be ok with you. Like Ajmer, TajMahal and other monuments

Start respecting others faith and God if you want others to respect yours.

Dunn look like majority of indians have an issue with the destruction of the mosque, otherwise would they have not stood up against it en masse?

No one can change the past, so as much as one may think ghaznavi was wrong, what happened can not be changed, but the babri masjid issue is present here and now, why dont we all stop that injustice and others like the destruction of the ignored bamiyan buddhas etc.

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So you are saying that demolition was majsid was not ok since it was place of worship but demolision of statue is ok since it is symbol of kuffar.

Where did you drive this logic from?

So..Advani and it goons can obviously go and demolish all that is symbol of Muslim rule or religion India as long as it is not a place of worship and it will be ok with you. Like Ajmer, TajMahal and other monuments

Start respecting others faith and God if you want others to respect yours.
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Sure...With my blessings...

But before you do that, differentiate between religious symbols, places of worship and mausoleums...But without the contribution of Islamic "symbols" to Indian culture that you so proudly boast of, and if you were to destroy them, what would India be left with?

And by Allâh, I shall plot a plan (to destroy) your idols after you have gone away and turned your backs." (Al-Anbiya 21:57)
So he broke them to pieces, (all) except the biggest of them, that they might turn to it. (Al-Anbiya 21:58)

Indeed there has been an excellent example for you in Ibrâhim (Abraham) and those with him, when they said to their people: “Verily, we are free from you and whatever you worship besides Allâh, we have rejected you, and there has started between us and you, hostility and hatred for ever, until you believe in Allâh Alone,” except the saying of Ibrâhim (Abraham) to his father: “Verily, I will ask for forgiveness (from Allâh) for you, but I have no power to do anything for you before Allâh.” Our Lord! In You (Alone) we put our trust, and to You (Alone) we turn in repentance, and to You (Alone) is (our) final Return, (Al-Mumtahinah 60:4)

so breaking idols is the sunnah of ibrahim :saw: and we are commanded to follow him, may allah guide us all to break the idols of Taghut, any one who is worshipped besides Allah. (unless the kuffar pay jizyah and do not display their false gods in front of us)

they were monuments. Those idols were part of afganistan's heritage. They represented Afghan's rich cultural history. Dont take quranic verses out of context to support something distructive like that. Even in an islamic country other religions are allowed to practice their own faith. Besides those idols werent even used for active worship.

I pray to God for guiding light. We , muslims, on the whole have completely gone blind. Have we all lost our comman sense. I thought something so pure so unique such as the Holy book was supposed to elighten you, Set you free but all i see is blindness, bigotry, intolerance. I hope we change our ways before its too late.

How about the idols in Kaaba at the time of Mecca’s victory? Those idols would not be used either becuase the whole city converted to Islam but still prophet :saw: entered into kaaba and broke those idols. Heritage gaee bharr main. Islam should be first and then this heritage crap.

kabaa is the house of God… no idols were permitted there. Muhammad :saw: had to make a point to the new converts that they were only permitted to obey and worship one entity now.

Heritage crap?!! islam puts so much emphasis on perserving your past and learning from it.

^islam puts so much emphasis on preserving Islamic past not kuffar bamiyan buddhas past.

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they were monuments. Those idols were part of afganistan's heritage. They represented Afghan's rich cultural history. Dont take quranic verses out of context to support something distructive like that. Even in an islamic country other religions are allowed to practice their own faith. Besides those idols werent even used for active worship.

I pray to God for guiding light. We , muslims, on the whole have completely gone blind. Have we all lost our comman sense. I thought something so pure so unique such as the Holy book was supposed to elighten you, Set you free but all i see is blindness, bigotry, intolerance. I hope we change our ways before its too late.
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What has happened to your common sense brotha?

When the Kuffar are ripping the Hijab from the heads of our living breathing sisters, you are worried that some stone statue's hair being eroded?

When the Kuffar are spending billions of dollars to repair, fix and brighten idols and statues all the while Muslim kids around are dying of hunger and disease? Is this the value of Muslim children? To be second fiddle to a bunch of hand shaped rocks?

All the idols and all tye statues of the universe are not worth a single life of an animal let alone a human being, and you argue about intolerance?

It's better to have intolerance for hand made rocks being crushed and lost than to be indifferent to lives that can be saved were the effort not wasted on stones...

Yes...I do hope we change our ways...

When the Kuffar are ripping the Hijab from the heads of our living breathing sisters, you are worried that some stone statue's hair being eroded?

** overly dramatic? **

When the Kuffar are spending billions of dollars to repair, fix and brighten idols and statues all the while Muslim kids around are dying of hunger and disease? Is this the value of Muslim children? To be second fiddle to a bunch of hand shaped rocks?

** the "kuffar" re-building the statues are multi million dollar corporations. They are making money by the construction. sadly, there is no money to be made in feeding children **

All the idols and all tye statues of the universe are not worth a single life of an animal let alone a human being, and you argue about intolerance?
** i agree ... if only you could make money by saving some one's life **

It's better to have intolerance for hand made rocks being crushed and lost than to be indifferent to lives that can be saved were the effort not wasted on stones...

** philosphical **

Yes...I do hope we change our ways...
** me too... but we dont live in a utopia. Either you climb to the top by educating yourself or get ready to be crushed under someone's foot. Education is the only true power. It is the only thing that can set you free. **