Taliban Vs. Insar'ul Islam

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50 militants killed as Taliban and another group fight it out - World - DNA

Seems like many militant groups are working in tribal area on their own agenda . Pakistan government must be happy that they won’t have to fight taliban now .

Btw I never heard of this Insar’ul Islam group . Seems like its something new .

Anyways , lets see where this leads to .

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It seems like there is a war going on between CIA sponsored terrorists and local militia that are loyal to Pakistan.

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Ansar-ul-Islam (AI) (Pakistan) - Jane’s World Insurgency and Terrorism

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lol... now your just being childish.

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I think that you are being childish by making statements like above. You are saying that my claim is ridiculous or unbelievable without actually providing reasons why you disagree with me or putting forward alternative views. Why is my claim unbeliveable?

Only a stupid person ridicules someones claims without actually knowing why they are doing it and without providing any reasons.

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May be Arshad right if we change the word As ISI.

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Call me stupid then...

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If you say so then I will....although I didn't want to fall to your and some others level.

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So which is one is pro and which is anti- Pakistan, if I dare ask?

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Thanks for sharing. Never knew that barelvis also had militant groups, in this case ansar ul Islam is headed by an afghan who is fighting for influence in khyber agency. Wonderful.

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Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

Dozens killed in Taliban-lashkar clash in Tirah
PESHAWAR: Fighting between two militant groups has left dozens of rebels dead in part of restive Khyber tribal belt along the Afghan border, officials said on Sunday.

The violence began in Tirah valley in the Khyber tribal region three days ago after members of the Tariq faction of the Pakistani Taliban, who operate in Khyber, captured a building belonging to the pro-government group Ansar-ul-Islam.

“The Ansar-ul-Islam group re-took their centre after intense fighting, which according to our information has so far killed 30-40 militants on both sides,” a senior local administration official told AFP. A senior security official confirmed the approximate death toll and said fighting was ongoing. The area is cut off to journalists and aid workers so it was not possible to confirm the death toll independently. The administration official said Ansar-ul-Islam are led by local commander Munsif Khan and oppose the home grown Islamist militia Lashkar-e-Islam, who frequently clash with Pakistani troops. A media report says the TTP militants are looking for safe hideouts in the area but the Ansarul Islam, which is a local organisation, does not want to give space to the former’s members.

The remote valley, tucked in mountainous terrain, is highly valued by militant groups as a base of operations. It’s difficult for the Pakistani military to enter the area, which allows militants easy access to Afghanistan and other tribal areas of Pakistan. agencies

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It just keeps getting messier.

so when PTI said that there are more than one militant groups in tribal areas fighting for various agendas, people made fun of IK.. right?

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I think Pir Saif Ur Rahaman was caught and killed by Laskhar-e-Islam and hanged in a historical way! I am not sure?

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But he naively believes that everything has to do with drone strikes. I mean lashkar-e-jhangvi was created by drone strikes?!

I knew that he was hopeless when he said in quetta after the killings that some terrorists would have to be dealt with guns while others need to be negotiated with. Seriously, you tell that to a group that has just lost close to a 100 people? IK needs to get a clue up in his akhrot and stop flaunting his fake tribal area concerns like the tribal areas are more patriotic than the rest of Pakistan. I don't want to dwell too much in the past but it was the tribals uncouth attitudes that lost us kashmir in the 1st place and many conspired against Pakistan with afghanistan in 1947 and later. PAF couldn't be deployed fully to kashmir since there were troubles in the khyber agency.

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dude you are generalizing a bit too much here. I have friends hailing from that part of the country and you will be surprised at their patriotism. Yeah dont dwell in the past but there are good and bad people in every part of the country. Why single tribal areas out?

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The tribals are generally more patriotic than people like Altaf Hussain and Zardari and their followers. If it wasn't for tribals there would not be any Azad Kashmir and Northern Areas would be in India. We can never repay them enough.

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One is a Brit while another is a president of a party and Pakistan. If we are talking politics then I can also bring in ANP and fazlu etc. If it is about sindhis and mahajirs, then remember it was them that weere literate enough to run the government and manned PAF along with bengalis that kept the skies of Pakistan safe when army was pathetic like having no troops to defend Lahore since ISI was asleep about Indian troop movements.

I remember that there were revolts in northern areas and an Irish officer was even honored by Pakistan because he led led the local scouts to end dogra rule of the area. You can read about how much land was lost when the ceasefire was called when Pakistan had an early start. I'd say 65 years is more than enough where the tribal areas get subsidies and don't pay any taxes when we should be taxing their arm markets.

Fair is fair

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History is not that simple. You can praise tribal as much as you want but don't distort the history. These tribal when reached Sirinagar, instead of capturing the airport, started in loot maar and forgot their mission. Nehru who was about to lose Kashmir, advised by Britishers to drop para troopers at airport. Tons of troops were moved on airplanes from India, and para trooper were dropped. These paratroopers unleashed hell on these so called tribal or mujahiden and they were forced to pushed back to useless area what is now called Azad Kashmir. Had these tribal not indulged in loot maar, Kashmir would have been part of Pakistan.

It would have made no difference if Azad Kashmir remained part of India. Pakistan did not need these useless areas.

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I thought his intent was to basically differentiate between taleban, TTP, and el-kayda :)