Taliban tricked me into wearing bomb, boy says

FORWARD OPERATING BASE THUNDER, Afghanistan - The story of a 6-year-old Afghan boy who says he thwarted an effort by Taliban militants to trick him into being a suicide bomber provoked tears and anger at a meeting of tribal leaders.
The account from Juma Gul, a dirt-caked child who collects scrap metal for money, left American soldiers dumbfounded that a youngster could be sent on such a mission. Afghan troops crowded around the boy to call him a hero.
Though the Taliban dismissed the story as propaganda, at a time when U.S. and NATO forces are under increasing criticism over civilian casualties, both Afghan tribal elders and U.S. military officers said they were convinced by his dramatic account.

Juma said that sometime last month Taliban fighters forced him to wear a vest they said would spray out flowers when he touched a button. He said they told him that when he saw American soldiers, “throw your body at them.”
The militants allegedly cornered Juma in a Taliban-controlled district in southern Afghanistan’s Ghazni province. Their target was an impoverished youngster being raised by an older sister — but also one who proved too street-smart for their plan.
“When they first put the vest on my body I didn’t know what to think, but then I felt the bomb,” Juma told The Associated Press as he ate lamb and rice after being introduced to the elders at this joint U.S.-Afghan base in Ghazni. “After I figured out it was a bomb, I went to the Afghan soldiers for help.”
While Juma’s story could not be independently verified, local government leaders backed his account and the U.S. and NATO military missions said they believed his story.
Abdul Rahim Deciwal, the chief administrator for Juma’s village of Athul, brought the boy and an older brother, Dad Gul, to a weekend meeting between Afghan elders and U.S. Army Col. Martin P. Schweitzer.
Schweitzer called the Taliban’s attempt “a cowardly act.”
****Several elders wept
****As Deciwal told Juma’s story, 20 Afghan elders repeatedly clicked their tongues in sadness and disapproval. When the boy and his brother were brought in, several of the turban-wearing men welled up, wiping their eyes with handkerchiefs.
“If anybody has a heart, then how can you control yourself (before) these kids?” Deciwal said in broken English.

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Juma Gul was provided a drink and lunch Saturday at the Kabul military center.
Wallets quickly opened, and the boys were handed $60 in American and Afghan currency — a good chunk of money in a country where teachers and police earn $70 a month.
Afghan officials described the boys as extremely poor, and Juma said he is being raised by his sister because his father works in a bakery in Pakistan and his mother lives and does domestic work in another village.
“I think the boy is intelligent,” Deciwal said. “When he comes from the enemy he found a checkpoint of the ANA (Afghan National Army), and he asked the ANA: ‘Hey, can you help me? Somebody gave me this jacket and I don’t know what’s inside but maybe something bad.’”
Lt. Col. George Graff, a father of five who attended the meeting, also teared up.
“Relating to them as a father and trying to fathom somebody using one of my children for that kind of a purpose, jeez, it just tore me up,” said Graff, a National Guard soldier from St. George, Utah. “The depths that these people will go to get what they want, which is power for themselves — it’s just disgusting.”

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No doubt talibans are the biggest **** h o l es on planet earth.

Re: Taliban tricked me into wearing bomb, boy says

lap it up sheeple, gloss over lines such as these within the article

** While Juma's story could not be independently verified,

*Plus, where exactly is the vest now? I wonder if the local Afghan soldiers needed some publicity so they can show the world that they are pleasing their masters. No Proof...all propoganda
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Re: Taliban tricked me into wearing bomb, boy says

media propoganda......yes may be.

Re: Taliban tricked me into wearing bomb, boy says

If you cannot argue wisely about what you've posted then you should avoid creating such threads instead of blaming others for being taliban supporter.

Re: Taliban tricked me into wearing bomb, boy says

^^ well if you don't have anything gud to say then shut your mouth.
whats the deal if i am a hindu??? i am proud of my heritage .

Re: Taliban tricked me into wearing bomb, boy says

What do you want us to say?

And I don't care if you're a muslim or a hindu or a satanist. Where did I mention anything about your religion?

Re: Taliban tricked me into wearing bomb, boy says

^^ i was refering to kaleem's post and not yours.

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Wait a minute! You have stated that you are a staunch conservative who follows the moral code of Islam and hates everything liberal. The taliban should right up your alley.

BTW, the references to others displaying childish behavior and enjoying getting whooped are rather ironic coming from you.

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Seminole, do you really want to get in between this? Just because I am conservative does not mean I support taliban. Nice stereotyping... you so called liberal ...Is that how liberals generalize people? You show your true colors and every time you do, it becomes apparent that your hatred for Islam and muslims is hidden only for political correctness. You my friend is an Islamophobe.

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ok…:mad2: …I thought you said all that to me.:slight_smile:

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How convenient for you to sit on your self righteous soap box and generalize and demean those loonie liberals all day long who you have stated you despise and not expect to be called out on your previous statements and hypocrisy. You can generalize all day long but I point out that the Taliban expressly represent the conservative movement in Islam, I now show my true colors and hatred? For that I'm an Islamaphobe? If you want to dish out hatred, generalizations and insults for a whole section of society, expect to be called out on it.

Now is the Taliban a conservative Islamic movement? Are you not a conservative Muslim that hates liberalism? Tell us then, what's the difference?

Re: Taliban tricked me into wearing bomb, boy says

sounds like something spineless money-worshipping bush-lovers would do, not the taliban.

Re: Taliban tricked me into wearing bomb, boy says

Seminole, the fact that you ask me those questions shows that you know very little about islam. Why do you think that taleban represent conservative Islam? Why do you think that a conservative muslim will be a taliban follower or supporter? Ask yourself those questions and than come back here.

Conservative Islam has nothing to do with what Taleban did or do. It is about following the laws laid out by Allah and his prophet. One of the principles of conservative Islam is "Haqqoq-il- Ibaad". Go research on it... than tell me how does it fit with the taleban version.

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Taliban are human excriment... Im doubt this is propaganda.
Hopefuly it will inspire people to give the Taliban the finger.

Re: Taliban tricked me into wearing bomb, boy says

I don't pretend to know how the taliban interpret their brand of Islam or how it assumes to promote the rights of man. But they are following a very literal and conservative interpretation that they believe strictly follows the rules of Allah as laid out by his prophet. They obviously believe that very strongly. Not that their movment is the only conservative school of thought in Islam. So do the Ikhwan movement or Salafists any many, many other conservative schools of thought.

My point to you is that you love to label all liberals as evil which implies all conservative thoughts are righteous. If you are going to wrap yoursefl in a righteous conservative blanket, you can't ignore all the conservative Islamic movements around the globe and say they don't represent what they are - conservative. Maybe you aren't so conservative after all? In many conservative Muslims' view you are a liberal, west-loving kafir.

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msnbc!
If you read US media or the local Paki Jihadi media, they publish equally disgusting and fabricated stories about each other.

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Saying that Taliban is a conservative Islamic movement is like saying KKK was a conservative Christian movement.

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^ I agree

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I do not agree with you,
KKK was into totally into fooling around with non whites, Taliban had nothing to do with the color of the skin !!!!

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^its about the nature of sweeping statement rather than the ideaology supported by both groups.
if its true, its inhumane. if its false i am not surprised in the least. Taliban might be all that and much more but i would love to see while american forces were throwing bombs right left and centre on this very land how much regard they showed for civic areas and 1 to 6 years old children.