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Now a days police is trying against Taliban and other gangs in many areas of Karachi . This is giving some hope for better Karachi .
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^ “Better Karachi”. Have you forgotten them Urdu speaking people? How can there be a better Karachi when baara mai is still fresh in memory and when Musharraf is still alive?
And how can there be a Better Karachi when action is taken against Taliban supporters of your beloved Lal Masjid brigade?
Here is fatwa of your beloved Mullah from Lal masjid in support of Taliban.
This issue was conflagrated when Maulana Abdul Aziz’s Fatwa came into limelight in which he stated that: “No Pakistani Army officer could be given an Islamic burial if died fighting the taliban.”
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No wonder how Few Ptians cursing MQM instead of consider TTP threats and presence in Karachi which is not actually a very big problem for MQM yet, Jamati never forget how MQM make them to leave karachi polticis and Jamati goons disappear from all Karachi universites and colleges, again dirty politics shown by Jamat and this time they bring TTP in action in Karachi with PTI ( in shape Electrocal Alliance ) also need some ground to hold. Amal give a great solution tho BRAVO. but MQM is not a Fitna like TTP, they can not kill inocient peoples like what happen in Abbas Town. Aww beardless Taliban are more dangerous its hard to find them like here in GS few of them openly defend but few clean shaved defender also can seen. Well, keep ranting to defame MQM but its never change the realities and the reality is that the Actual Monster is out there and may be thinking right now how to KILL hundreds at once.
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No wonder how Few Ptians cursing MQM instead of consider TTP threats and presence in Karachi which is not actually a very big problem for MQM yet, Jamati never forget how MQM make them to leave karachi polticis and Jamati goons disappear from all Karachi universites and colleges, again dirty politics shown by Jamat and this time they bring TTP in action in Karachi with PTI ( in shape Electrocal Alliance ) also need some ground to hold. Amal give a great solution tho BRAVO. but MQM is not a Fitna like TTP, they can not kill inocient peoples like what happen in Abbas Town. Aww beardless Taliban are more dangerous its hard to find them like here in GS few of them openly defend but few clean shaved defender also can seen. Well, keep ranting to defame MQM but its never change the realities and the reality is that the Actual Monster is out there and may be thinking right now how to KILL hundreds at once.
True, MQM does not kill like TTP, they only kill their political enemies (MQM Haqiqi) or their own ranks (Azeem Tariq, Imran Farooq etc.)
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Police should be given a free hand to seize any area, raid any area for search of militants, whoever is caught regardless of their political/religious affiliation they should be prosecuted.
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:nono: buri baat sirf monthly chanda he tou mangtay hain :emmy:
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Seriously, where is the difference between TTP and MQM, ANP, PPP, AmanC... OP, you speak as if Karachi was in the hands of angels before TTP stepped in. Extortion rackets, kidnappings, killings,, all happen under the umbrella of these political parties. Stop being so naive. There is no difference between them and ttp.
I do not support MQM (and their tactics). I blame the trio (PPP, MQM and ANP) which was ruling Sindh during the past five years. The infighting between the parties created an ideal atmosphere for TTP to establish themselves.
Now as far as the differences between MQM and TTP are concerned. MQM is confined to one city, where as TTP is killing people through out the country. MQM cannot destroy the country, TTP can. MQM is a political party with organized cadres, you can talk (and convince) to them. TTP does not have a centralized leadership with whom one could talk, and as far as reasoning is concerned the lesser said the better.
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Bus? Thunduk parr gai? It is as if you are coming straight from 5th grade. How old are you? 12?
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It appears that currently there is action against militants because PPP government is gone for now. If this is true then it shows that it isi political unwillingness that the militancy thrive in Karachi.
Combating terrorists, outlaws: Karachi police demoralised, admit officials | Pakistan | DAWN.COM
ISLAMABAD: Bosses of Karachi police admitted in the Supreme Court on Friday that their men lacked the ‘will’ to combat the growing number of militants and gangsters in the city because of sluggish follow-up of the cases of their colleagues who had been killed by criminals.
But he said the situation was now improving with the removal of the ‘political umbrella’.
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DIG Bukhari said when he was DIG Special Branch in 2011 he had informed the authorities concerned about the influx in Karachi of a large number of militants belonging to the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), but no-one had taken the threat seriously.
“Now the situation has come to a stage where we need time and resources to handle the TTP.”
SSP Central Amir Farooqi said that areas around Manghopir and Sohrab Goth were hideouts of criminals and about 150 to 200 militants, including those belonging to the TTP, were active there. Whenever police launched an operation the miscreants fled to adjoining areas, he said. He pointed out in guarded language about a few political connotations in some pockets. But he said there were now increased activities by police and the Rangers.
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If this is true then it shows that it isi political unwillingness that the militancy thrive in Karachi.
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you deliberately misspelled "is" to implicate ISI.. :)
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In Pakistan Underworld, a Cop Is Said to Be a King - ABC News
A corrupt, low-level cop with a healthy dose of street smarts rises to control hundreds of illegal gambling dens in Pakistan’s largest city. By doling out millions of dollars in illicit proceeds, he protects his empire and becomes one of the most powerful people in Karachi.
The allegations against Mohammed Waseem Ahmed — or Waseem “Beater” as he is more commonly known — emerged recently from surprise testimony by a top police commander before a crusading anti-crime Supreme Court judge. The story has given a rare and colorful glimpse into the vast underworld in Karachi, a chaotic metropolis of 18 million people on Pakistan’s southern coast.
The sprawling city has become notorious for violence, from gangland-style killings and kidnappings to militant bombings and sectarian slayings. Further worrying authorities have been signs that the Pakistani Taliban are using the chaos to gain a greater foothold in the city.
For months, the Supreme Court’s Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry has been leading special hearings on Karachi’s crime, berating the city’s top police officers for failing to act. This past week, he demanded they move in to clean up so-called “no-go” areas — entire neighborhoods where police fear to tread — according to local press reports.
Further fueling the problem is rampant police corruption, undermining efforts to combat the city’s violent gangs and extremists. Among the public, the police nationwide are seen as the country’s most crooked public sector organization, a high bar given claims of pervasive corruption throughout the government.
The allegations surrounding Ahmed further fuel questions about the overlap between Karachi’s underworld and its police forces. After the testimony to the Supreme Court earlier this year, police officials in Karachi provided The Associated Press with additional details over his reported rise.
The AP made repeated attempts to contact Ahmed, who has been removed from the force and fled to Dubai, but was not successful.
Ahmed came from a poor family in Karachi’s old city and joined the police force in the 1990s. He soon started working as a “beater,” a low-level thug who works for more senior cops to collect a cut from illegal activities in their area, such as gambling, prostitution and drug dealing, said half a dozen police officers who knew him personally at the time. They all spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution.
Ahmed, who sports a bushy black mustache and usually dresses in a simple, white shalwar kameez, earned a reputation for carrying out his illicit work efficiently, said two police officers who have known him ever since he joined the force. That reputation helped him forge relationships with more senior figures, and eventually he was collecting money for some of the top police officers and civilian security officials in Karachi, they said.
The heavyset 40-year-old also attracted the attention of a local boss who controlled the largest concentration of illegal gambling dens in Karachi, located in the city’s rough and tumble Ghas Mandi area, where Ahmed worked, said the policemen and a local journalist. The two teamed up to expand their gambling empire to other parts of Karachi and surrounding Sindh province.
Gambling was not always illegal in Pakistan, a nation of 180 million people that gained independence from Britain in 1947 as a sanctuary for Muslims who did not believe they could thrive as part of what is now India, a majority Hindu state. Despite the religious undertones of Pakistan’s founding, the country’s major cities, such as Karachi and Lahore, were relatively liberal places in the first few decades after independence. Alcohol flowed freely in nightclubs filled with dancing girls.
But in 1977, Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto banned gambling and alcohol for Muslims in an attempt to appease Islamic hard-liners. Drinking and gambling, which are forbidden in Islam, didn’t stop, but much of it was driven underground.
The gambling dens in Ghas Mandi are hidden behind nondescript facades down dark alleyways with tangled electrical wires hanging overhead in one of the oldest and densest populated parts of Karachi.
In one den, a dozen men dressed in shalwar kameez sat in a semicircle on the floor playing a local card game, mang patta, beneath bare bulbs hanging from the ceiling. The men sipped tea and tossed 100 rupee ($1) poker chips at the dealer.
In an adjacent room, a handful of men played chakka, a game that involved guessing the numbers that would appear when the dealer rolled three dice out of what looked like an old leather Yahtzee cup. Rupee notes were placed on a table as bets and held in place by a large metal washer. Everyone stopped their games when the Muslim call to prayer came over a loudspeaker from a nearby mosque — and they promptly resumed the dice and cards once the prayer ended.
Ahmed earned tens of thousands of dollars each day from hundreds of such gambling dens, said the policemen and journalist who knew him. He also collected extortion money from drug dealers and brothels and smuggled diesel fuel into Karachi from neighboring Iran, where it is much cheaper, they said.
He distributed cash to senior officials, and the pay-outs made him one of the most powerful people in Karachi’s police force, said his acquaintances. He won significant influence over who was posted to senior positions, thus providing him with protection, they said. Known as a man of few words who rarely loses his cool, Ahmed also handed out money to Karachi’s powerful criminal gangs and traveled with roughly a dozen armed guards as an insurance policy.
He was sailing smoothly through the underworld until one of the Supreme Court sessions in January.
A petitioner outlined to the court allegations of Ahmed’s illicit activities and his power in the police force. Chief Justice Chaudhry then asked senior police officers and civilian officials who were present about the allegations. They all expressed ignorance.
But Deputy Inspector General Bashir Memon spoke up and backed the petitioner’s claims.
“I said yes, Waseem ‘Beater’ is present among the ranks of the Karachi police. He controls the gambling business in Karachi,” Memon told The Associated Press. “I also confirmed that he is involved in the transfer and posting of junior and senior police officers.”
Another senior police officer in Sindh province, Sanaullah Abbasi, also testified that he knew Ahmed and that he controlled gambling dens in Karachi.
Chaudhry lambasted the senior officials for not going after Ahmed and asked Memon whether he was concerned about contradicting his colleagues.
“I replied, ‘I only told you the truth,’” Memon told the AP.
As a sign of Ahmed’s power, Memon said he was told the same day he would be transferred out of Karachi, but the Supreme Court canceled the transfer order.
Ahmed was dismissed from the police force after the Supreme Court hearing, according to two senior police officers, and government records indicate he flew to Dubai and has not returned.
Hassan Abbas, an expert on the Pakistani police at the New York-based Asia Society, said Ahmed’s case provides a stark illustration of the level of corruption in the Karachi police force, which he described as the worst in any of Pakistan’s major cities. Criminal cases are currently pending against 400 police officers serving in Karachi, said Abbas.
Civilian officials, who also benefit from corruption, have shown no willingness to reform the system, making the force relatively ineffective in cracking down on criminal gangs and Islamist militants in the city, said Abbas.
“The chaos in Karachi provides criminal gangs with the cover they need to operate,” said Abbas. “Corruption provides an incentive to continue that chaos.”
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you deliberately misspelled "is" to implicate ISI.. :)
Well, if I want to blame ISI then I would say it directly.
But actually I don't think ISI has anything to do with Taliban militancy in Karachi. It is mainly political unwillingness which is responsible for it. ISI is not stopping rangers/police taking action against them.
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A cracker attack on a school in Baldia Town Karachi by alleged Taliban . Owner of School , a ANP leader died , many seriously injured .
Yesterday ANP leader told that they have vacated 30 offices in Karachi due to different type of threats .
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A cracker attack on a school in Baldia Town Karachi by alleged Taliban . Owner of School , a ANP leader died , many seriously injured . Yesterday ANP leader told that they have vacated 30 offices in Karachi due to different type of threats .
So who do you think ws actually behind this attack? MQM or Musharraf?
Lal masjid brigade is only being implicated by one of them. Right?
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But he said the situation was now improving with the removal of the ‘political umbrella’.
The people should decide in the next elections, what they want...continuation of the mis governance of the past five years or a new beginning. The situation of Karachi is reaching a point where very painful decisions might be required to take the city back to its past glory. Without depoliticized Police force and action against criminal elements of all hues and colors I don't see the situation of the city improving.
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Karachi is fast converting into FATA.
School in Karachi targeted on result day, principal killed – The Express Tribune
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ANP flags could be seen in all Pashtun dominated areas earlier. But now ANP has almost been routed by Taliban and their affiliates. The flags we see now are those of JUI, and ASWJ.
Here is what Shahi Syed used to say about Taliban threat in 2009.
http://www.himalmag.com/component/content/article/553-capturing-karachi.html
Currently, the MQM is the only major group that professes to believe that the Taliban is intent on taking over Karachi. Other political and religious parties, including the ruling Pakistan People’s Party, the Awami National Party (ANP) and the Jamaat-i-Islami, which also have large followings in the city, have not taken the MQM’s concern – nor the Taliban ‘threat’ – seriously. The head of the ANP’s Sindh chapter, Shahi Syed, has a simple term to describe the MQM’s warnings: “rubbish”.
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With MQM leading the figures itself in target killing, there is not much desire to caucus with them. When MQM starts to behave like adults, then the sane part of karachi (mahajirs included) might start to take them seriously.
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Well, this is nothing new. MQM has been doing just that since long and still has been sweeping every election.
And who do you consider 'muhajir'?
besides, the topic is not about prospects of MQM but about Taliban mufsideen gaining ground in the city. So why not comment on that?