This article is suggesting a link between Taliban and Tablighi Jamaat.
Taliban threatens Pakistani singers and actors with death - Telegraph
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The problem with some people is that they rely on western media to get "reliable" news related to Pakistan or India. If tomorrow any of the singer joins any other religious group (e.g. Ahmadiyat) than some people would try to link Ahmadiyat with Taliban as well. No wonder why these nations are always in trouble, because their are some people amongst them who are always ready to accept a news from western media that "suits" their purpose.
If tomorrow any of the singer joins any other religious group (e.g. Ahmadiyat) than some people would try to link Ahmadiyat with Taliban as well.
No they wont. Terrorism is always from non-Ahmadi groups particularly deobandis to which Talibans subscribe. Ahmadis are 'deniers of jihad' remember? :)
Ahmadis are 'deniers of jihad' remember? :)
And hence deniers of 'an order in the Quran'.
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You can only call Ahmadis terrorists or call them 'deniers of jihad' but not both. That is the point.
...and please continue your Jihad as per your interpretation of Quran and keep killing fellow "Muslim" men, women and children. Good luck with that.
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Pakistan has actors ? (not stateless actors)
...and please continue your Jihad as per your interpretation of Quran and keep killing fellow "Muslim" men, women and children. Good luck with that.
'Assumptions' at its best.
You can only call Ahmadis terrorists or call them 'deniers of jihad' but not both. That is the point.
...and please continue your Jihad as per your interpretation of Quran and keep killing fellow "Muslim" men, women and children. Good luck with that.
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You have constructed a false argument. In order for terrorism to be exclusive to anti-jihad is when the two terms jihad and terrorism are equivalent. Do you believe jihad is equivalent to terrorism?
terrorism is not jihad ... the acts that are being perpetrated are really 'radicalised reactionism' ... the definition for terrorism should really be restricted to when a state power instigates control over a people by extreme force or threat, (primarily as a result of its own unethical ends). In which case the 'reaction' that is created is also evil but not really terrorism. These reactionaries are themselves 'terrorised' which is why they do what they do.
jihad is purely the honorable forms of struggling against tyrrany and any loss of justice in the endeavour to replace that lost justice, in just means.
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Being an Ahmadi isn't like a certificate to heaven ..... even though some (anti-ahmadi) would paint it ...... it's the deeds that matter ......
I would urge my fellow Ahmadis not to bring Ahmadiyyat into any Islam related or Taliban related topic as it only helps to derail the thread into Ahmadiyyat bashing/defending which has been discussed to death
Now back to the topic: I wonder why it took them (Taliban) so long to take such actions ...... Many of us know that when Jamaat-e-Islami gained power in NWFP many CD/DVD dealers had to shut down or be ready to be shut down by authorities ...... Now i can tell u a thing or two about Satellite reception in peshawar ...... If u visit Boards/Forums related to Satellite Tech./TV u'll find hundreds of PPL asking on how to decode certain channels aired by EU Satellites ..... those related to the satellite thingie know what i mean
The very next day these PPL will took to the streets and demand Shariah ...... I know a few PPL from Peshawar very closely now living for a few years in germany ..... they do everything a muslim won't (Drink, Party, S*X just everything) but once u discuss with them about LAW they say Only Shahriah and Jamaat-e-Islami can peace and stability
Another prime example r a few PPL in Chiniot who run a Cable TV network (yet all indian channels and at nights some non-mentionable stuff too on regular basis) but when it comes to defend khatm-e-Nabuwat they r on the fore fronts of this Jihad
These Taliban crroks r no different ...... they'll enforce their socalled Shariah where they don't fear any resistance and if there is any they'll put up two faces
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Zero_one, you'll notice its RAW who brought up ahmadiyyat unnecessarily, others were merely replying to it. Problem is when non-Ahmadis don't have a point (which is often) they try to divert the issues by ahmadiyya bashing. Expect more of it. :)
I intended to point out that some people might like to make false judgment and generalization like:
If tomorrow any of the singer joins any other religious group (e.g. Ahmadiyat) than some people would try to link Ahmadiyat with Taliban as well.
in response to the false judgment and generalization like:
This article is suggesting a link between Taliban and Tablighi Jamaat.
That article didn't suggest any such link. It only described an incident of few people which can not be used to generalize against a whole group of people.
Ahmadi jamaat and Tableeghi jamaat in general are peace loving people who don't spread hatred against anyone (we all know that) that is why it is always good to not 'generalize' against any **whole group of people **only because of the acts of few people.
I hope the intention behind my previous post is clear now.
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That's all you need to do to make sure a certain topic is not discussed: Bring in the Ahmedis.
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Peace test01
You have constructed a false argument. In order for terrorism to be exclusive to anti-jihad is when the two terms jihad and terrorism are equivalent. Do you believe jihad is equivalent to terrorism?
terrorism is not jihad ... the acts that are being perpetrated are really 'radicalised reactionism' ... the definition for terrorism should really be restricted to when a state power instigates control over a people by extreme force or threat, (primarily as a result of its own unethical ends). In which case the 'reaction' that is created is also evil but not really terrorism. These reactionaries are themselves 'terrorised' which is why they do what they do.
jihad is purely the honorable forms of struggling against tyrrany and any loss of justice in the endeavour to replace that lost justice, in just means.
Assalaam O Aalikum
I always admire all your replies, MashaAallah.
JazakAllah.
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That's all you need to do to make sure a certain topic is not discussed: Bring in the Ahmedis.
Care to explain how? ...or are you just upset that these low-life Ahmadis who you would slaughter at whim back home dare to talk back?
Peace test01
You have constructed a false argument. In order for terrorism to be exclusive to anti-jihad is when the two terms jihad and terrorism are equivalent. Do you believe jihad is equivalent to terrorism?
Jihad by sword mostly is these days.
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terrorism is not jihad ...
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Taliban and other religious terrorists call it Jihad, the world at large calls it terrorism…matter of perspective. Who is going to decide?
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the acts that are being perpetrated are really 'radicalised reactionism' ...
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There isn’t much evidence of reactionism but plenty of evidence of mostly deobandi madrasas radicalising the innocent into blowing themselves up in the name of religion.
Madrassa students are shown dvds and convinced to go to ‘jihad’. Children are told they would be blowing westerners (kuffar) when they attack ordinance factory in wah. Ajmal Qasab had nothing to do with Kashmir...he was merely a petty criminal wanting to learn weapons to commit bank robberies. He was brain washed into doing Bombay attacks by Jihadis.
These extremists attack Shias, Ahmadis, no-Muslims and women too… none of whom are responsible for Kashmir, Afghanistan or Iraq. The reactionary excuse is diversion form real problem i.e. Mullahs and Madrassas in Pakistan spewing hatred day in day out against pretty much everyone and creating the mess that we are in.
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the definition for terrorism should really be restricted to when a state power instigates control over a people by extreme force or threat, (primarily as a result of its own unethical ends).
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You mean like how Pakistani state is persecuting Ahmadis? Is that terrorism in your book?
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In which case the 'reaction' that is created is also evil but not really terrorism.
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What dictionary are you using? How is evil violent act not terrorism?
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These reactionaries are themselves 'terrorised' which is why they do what they do.
jihad is purely the honorable forms of struggling against tyrrany and any loss of justice in the endeavour to replace that lost justice, in just means.
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Would Ahmadis struggling against Pakistani government to attain their just human rights, as accepted by international laws, be Jihad for instance...just to get an idea of what you mean?
terrorism is not jihad ... the acts that are being perpetrated are really 'radicalised reactionism' ...
PS: reactionism is a fraud. You can remain peaceful despite bitter persecution and killing of your loved ones and Ahmadis are a living proof of this. Of course if you want to commit terrorism you will find any excuse or no excuse at all.
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I wouldn't slaughter Ahmedies, ever, as I don't see the need to shed Ahmedi blood.
My point is - the thread topic is on Taliban's bullying of the artists in Pakistan and nearly every reply has been about Ahmedis, a completely irrelevant topic. I don't see why threads like this don't get cleaned up by moderatorship, but somehow a thread posting a friggin video of the Taliban getting flogged gets locked, and then opened again after some protesting from yours truly, and that too with the video removed. Can the moderators stop doing a selective job, please? That's the kind of thing that gets Pakistanis in trouble all the time.
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Truely there is no tolerance....test01 open the topic and very first reply started off with Ahmadiyyat bashing....which has nothing to do with his faith.
I d rather have ban such users...who deliberately set the topic in wrong direction.