firenze, if the Americans and others got their behinds handed to them in Ir** and Afghanistan...
Behinds handed to them? Hardly, look at the military numbers as far as losses and you won't find any that support your claim. Politically, yes they got their ass handed to them in Ir*, a failure of epic proportions and this was brought on by the the Bush administrations lack or planning, their greed, stubbornness, and poor planning. If corruption and outside influence is limited, the people of Ir* have a shot at victory which is comes in the form of stability without a major U.S. presence.
The mission in Afghanistan is far from over and the topic of this post shows exactly why further international re-engagement is necessary. This type of fundamentalism is what breeds terrorism and an alternatives to it must to be given a chance to seed and grow.
On a side note, sandhu786 states rape is a byproduct of girls going to school. This conclusion really shows you how easily some minds can be molded into believing the most offensive ideas.