Known to US soldiers as the Valley of Death, it’s been the scene of the some of the most intense fighting in the war in Afghanistan.
After years of intense fighting, the US has left its remote outpost in the Korengal Valley, in the country’s east.
Al Jazeera’s James Bays has more on the move, which the US calls a re-positioning of forces, but which the Taliban has declared a US defeat
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In an ongoing war, word 'defeat' and 'victory' should be used with caution. Repositioning might be a diplomatic term on US part, but Talibans calling it a defeat is little too extreme.
In an ongoing war, word 'defeat' and 'victory' should be used with caution. Repositioning might be a diplomatic term on US part, but Talibans calling it a defeat is little too extreme.
Agreed. Americans also should not label their little skirmishes as victories.
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Absolutely. Only the time will tell.
But its does not matter who wins and who wont. Sad part is the lost of innocent lives. I just pray that this gets over soon.
message from Taliban:
** American Colonialist Agenda**
Jamadi-ul-Awwal 04, 1431 A.H, Monday, April 19, 2010
In the Name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.
The current war in Afghanistan is in all its shapes and manifestations a liberation struggle by indigenous people against foreign invaders and their internal surrogates. The Afghans have proved their mettle as a free and independent people throughout their history by never bowing to foreign aggressions. Though America paints this war as a fight against terrorism but in fact it is a colonialist slogan by Washington, aimed at extending its own tentacle over Asia and, by extension, all over the world.
In 1992, when the former Afghan president Najibulla’s regime fell, the Americans embarked on a colonialist policy, indirectly encouraging domestic war in Afghanistan. On the one hand, they stopped the annual assistance to the Afghans in the shape of humanitarian relief and weapons to the tune of $600 million which they used to give to the Afghan Mujahideen and refugees but on the other hand they insisted on inclusion of the remains of the former communists of Halq and Parcham in the new dispensation. They called it a broad-based set-up. Washington also did not insist on dissolution of some notorious militia groups of the Najibulla regime like Dostum militia, General Momin, Babajan and Naderi militias.
These militias had key role in turning Afghanistan into bloodbath and perpetrating atrocities, killing and looting innocent people and committing crimes that were unprecedented in the Afghan history. They should have helped to bring these criminal to justice but instead of supporting a clean, independent, efficient government in Kabul, Washington indirectly ignited the flames of war.
Pentagon strategist wanted to discredit the Mujahideen, weaken their manpower as a result of a war of attrition and get rid of the weapons that had amassed from the previous years. They began to call Mujahideen as warlords while previously they preferred to call them as freedom fighters. They provoked some unscrupulous elements inside the former Mujahideen groups to commit some heinous crimes against their own people because Washington believed it would end people’s enchantment with an Islamic government in Afghanistan.
In 1994, the Taliban Islamic Movement emerged to foil the American conspiracy and establish an Islamic government in the country. But Washington tended from day one to oppose the young Islamic government, until in October 2001 when America attacked Afghanistan under the spurious pretext of fighting terrorism.
Now we are in the ninth year of the war. Washington is still repeating the same hackneyed clichés of fighting terrorism, though it has lost its initial splendor. Throughout this period, Americans committed the worst kind of human rights violations in Bagram, Kandahar and Abu Gharib jails. They have tortured and killed many innocent prisoners in various secret cells of interrogations inside their military bases in Afghanistan which are run by CIA and special operation forces, bulldozing the dead bodies under the ground.
Now after almost one decade, many observers in the world have come round to believe that the American war in Afghanistan is not aimed at fighting terrorism as they claims but rather they want to:
1. Use Afghanistan as an outpost to destabilize and carry out a regime change in the neighboring countries.
2. To control central Asian natural resources by bringing to power pro-western elements in these countries of the former Soviet republics.
3. To change the regime in Iran by supporting anti-government forces in Iran, financially politically and militarily. To spark off racial and sectarians violence in that country. To disintegrate and destabilize Pakistan. To pave the way and ignite vast demonstrations in China through Faulong movement to destabilize that country; to monitor China internal politics and military arsenal by installing electronic equipment in Minhas base in Kyrgyzstan and in Marja Helmand province, Afghanistan to monitor Iran’s nuclear program.
4. To make alliance with the so-called big democracy i.e. India against China and Pakistan. American has already given green signal to New Delhi to ramp up its activities in Baluchistan by working closely with Baluchistan Liberation Army.
5. To create utopian fear among the establishment echelon in Islamabad by launching the Talibanization propaganda, encouraging them to support the so-called war on terror. However, the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan has made it clear time and time that it will not interfere in the internal affairs of any country and believe in the peaceful co-existence of countries with different social systems. Until and unless Washington achieves those goals, it will always say it is not right time to withdraw from Afghanistan peacefully or seek peace talks with Taliban. Future developments will unravel this.
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Soon the Taliban will be on the run from Kandahar :)
Inshah Allah
All the best to NATO ,Afghan forces,and the people of Afghanistan. :)
Soon the Taliban will conquer Kandahar :)
Inshah Allah
God willing, they will. :)
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^ try this:
Witness: Breaking the myths of Pakistan’s tribal areas
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/20/AR2010042001334.html
Why are you so ignorant? What does my thread have to do with Pakistan? And who in the world is Myra and why should I trust JewTimes?? Let me see..
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Myra MacDonald has been a foreign correspondent for Reuters for more than 20 years. She was** Bureau Chief in India** from 2000 to 2003.
lol kid’s behavior.. dude the so called talibanic fighters are very much same on the border region .. the ttp is only present in deep down Fata & cities..
on borders it’s our lovely afghan talibans & al-qaeda.. of which Pak army is kicking ass very badly !
so who is wrong you or Pak army? because it’s the Pakistan army who called the myra macdonald to bajour … 
Pak army is fighting on the side of the real enemy, I never supported the Pak army operations and never will. So as for your nationalism, you can take it to Pakistan and die in battle, people here will be happy 
You can cry, boast, yell, stress out, dance all you want, there will always be fighters fighting for the sake of Allah. You can’t change it.
Pak army is fighting on the side of the real enemy, I never supported the Pak army operations and never will. So as for your nationalism, you can take it to Pakistan and die in battle, people here will be happy ;)
You can cry, boast, yell, stress out, dance all you want, there will always be fighters fighting for the sake of Allah. You can't change it.
yup their will be .. but this current lot known as taliban & al-qaeda are just some useless sperm donated by half of the world.
just like Pak Army break the myth of so-called tribal's warriorsm the same way.. it's us the security establishment of Pakistan who call shots in Afghanistan be it for changing "chaaadi"` for Hamid Karzai.. or supplying "chaadi's" to the holy warriors..
ps. my soldiers are standing firmly.. in front of monkeys, barbarian's, goat-lovers and losers scum of earth too known as taliban or the shyt of world .. .. when our army call us.. we will be their.. you can bet on that !..
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^^ lol kid just go learn the basics of human behavior
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^ that's the only civilized way you talk about children/women rapers & killers. if you have better let me know !
US? your sitting in New york kid working on your laptop with some chinks, calm down there. 
You really need to squash your arrogance or it will bring you down just like it has so many. LOL where do you even learn to talk like that? New york subways?
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never mind, it doesn't matter what you and other talibanic sympathizers says.. the reality is Pak army kicking their butt in Pakistan ..and calling most of the shots in Afghanistan too ......
death to taliban !
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firenze just wants to support her governments - indias - foreign policy
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^ nope my friend, i am just supporting my people & soldiers who are fighting them !
Death to Taliban !