Taliban not a terrorist group? White House official says it’s ‘armed insurgency’

Taliban not terrorists? :hehe: So what was US doing in Afghanistan for a decade?

http://rt.com/usa/227487-white-house-taliban-terrorists/

Schultz added: *“I’d also point out that the Taliban is an armed insurgency. ISIL is a terrorist group. So we don’t make concessions to terrorist groups.”
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Karl pressed: *“You don’t think the Taliban is a terrorist group?”
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“I don’t think that the Taliban…the Taliban is an armed insurgency,” Schultz said after a pause. *“This was the winding down of the war in Afghanistan, and that’s why this arrangement was dealt.”

*The Americans consider only those groups as terrorists which are based in Pakistan.

The State Department added the Haqqani network to its Foreign Terrorist Organization list in 2012 and the Taliban in Pakistan was added in 2010. The Afghan faction of the Taliban, however, is not on the FTO list.

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If you can't beat em join em

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Now we know why Fazlullah has not been captured in Afghanistan by US forces because he is not a terrorist, just an armed insurgent.

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Actually ... you can read in to this a bit more carefully and conclude that organisations that are working with US at any level - are no longer considered terrorists.

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@CENTCOM ki hazri ho

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I think we can all agree that the Taliban are an ornery group of folks. 'Operation Hug' needs to get underway.

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This is ridiculous.

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There are about 50 or more groups of talibans. All paid & sponsored by different interest groups including india. RAW being the 'Research & Analysis Wing' of CIA tell them to declare pro Pakistan talibans as 'terrorists' & all those paid by RAW as 'no terrorists'. And the nut heads in CIA obediently believe their "Research and Analysis Wing" & just fulfil the orders of whoever controls them. And the ones who control them are who RAW directly works with.

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Yes, group of armed people protecting their "crops"...

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wo baat sarey fasaney main jis ka zikr na tha
wo baat in ko bohat nagawaar guzree hai

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"Taliban nihaayat shareef un nafs aur amn pasand log haiN"...safed ghar kaa safed jhoot.

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Well to be fair, i never considered post 911 taliban a terrorist group. Al keeda is a different story. At best they partly did terrorist activities but not a terrorist group in entirety.

But it exposes american double standards, first they called them terrorists and now changed their tones. Wait for some time and they will call Osama a Pir sahab

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Are the Afghan Taliban terrorists? - World - DAWN.COM

Many were surprised when a White House spokesman recently called the Afghan Taliban an “armed insurgency” and refrained from calling the hardline militant group terrorists a month after the United States ended combat operations in Afghanistan.

The United States lost more than 2,000 soldiers in its 13-year war against the Taliban after it led an international coalition to topple their regime in Afghanistan in late 2001.

The Taliban were accused of harboring Al Qaeda, and a day after thousands were killed in the 9/11 attacks in New York and Washington, former US President George W. Bush declared that his country would “make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them.”

On January 28, White House Deputy Press Secretary Eric Schultz told reporters that “the Taliban is an armed insurgency” unlike the Islamic State, which is a terrorist group.

The next day, reporters questioned White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest. He said the administration sees the Taliban differently than designated international terrorist networks such as Al Qaeda. “The Taliban has resorted to terror tactics, but those terror tactics have principally been focused on Afghanistan,” he said.

The comments provoked considerable reaction, such as a sarcastic January 30 headline on the Fox News website: “White House acknowledges – but also denies – that Taliban are a terrorist group.”

Writing in the conservative National Review Online, Andrew C. McCarthy called the White House comments cynical.

“This business of distinguishing ‘insurgents’ from ‘terrorists’ is nonsense,” he observed. “An insurgency is just a domestic uprising (in the sense that the insurgent is from the country in which he is rebelling). When insurgents use terrorist tactics, they are domestic terrorists.”

A closer examination of the US designations for the Taliban reveals that while individuals insurgent leaders and some Taliban factions have been designated terrorists, most members of the Afghan Taliban are only considered insurgents.

Barnett Rubin, a New York University academic, spent years advising the US State Department on how to craft policies to help in reconciling the Taliban with the Afghan government.

He says the State Department’s list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations does not list the main organisation of the Afghan Taliban, which calls itself the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan (IEA). It does, however, list Tehrik-i Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and the Afghan Taliban’s powerful military wing, the Haqqani network, as foreign terrorist organisations.

The Haqqanis, a large Jihadist family from southeastern Afghanistan, however, consider themselves part of the Afghan Taliban, who have backed these claims.

“Of course Afghan Taliban (IEA) uses terrorism. So did [the anti-Soviet Afghan] mujahedin [in the 1980s]. But the US has concluded the Afghan Taliban (IEA) does not target anything outside Afghanistan: not the US, India, China or Russia,” he told RFE/RL’s Gandhara website.

Rubin says some organisations, even after meeting the legal requirement for being designated as a terrorist organization, are not officially labeled. “The law does not require designation. It only authorizes the administration to designate the organizations if they meet the criteria,” he said. “Using the designation is ultimately a political decision.”

Washington’s views about the Afghan Taliban began to change in 2009, when, as part of his new policy for Afghanistan and Pakistan, President Barack Obama backed reconciliation between the Taliban and the Western-backed Kabul government.

“The US and the Afghan government agree that the goal with Afghan Taliban (IEA) is to contain them and get them into the peace process,” Rubin noted. “Now this is very different than our goals for Al Qaeda, the Islamic State militants or TTP.”

The United Nations also acknowledged these distinctions and in 2011 decided to split its Al Qaeda and Taliban sanction regime and established separate Al Qaeda and Taliban sanction lists with distinct criteria for the two organisations.

Adding to the complexity is the fact that the Taliban are still listed as Specially Designated Global Terrorists by the US Treasury Department. Washington is still offering $10 million for information regarding the Afghan Taliban’s reclusive leader, Mullah Omar.

Many more Taliban figures have been designated as Specially Designated Global Terrorists and, like Omar, some even feature on the State Department’s Rewards for Justice program. The US National Counterterrorism Center displays the Afghan Taliban on its global map of “terrorist groups.”

Rubin attributes some of these designations to political disagreements in Washington. He acknowledges that US policymakers still have to address some fundamental questions about the Taliban even after they have symbolically ended the war in Afghanistan.

“We will cross that bridge when we come to it,” he said.

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LOL... The joys of empire!