Taliban leader killed by SAS was Pakistan officer

*I wonder why a Pakistani officer planning or engaging in a covert operation against the coalition forces, and keep in mind this was during Mush’s time. It just seems like the previous Govt was trying to keep the game afoot to make sure this conflict never ends. *

Taliban leader killed by SAS was Pakistan officer
Christina Lamb in Kabul
British officials covered up evidence that a Taliban commander killed by special forces in Helmand last year was in fact a Pakistani military officer, according to highly placed Afghan officials.

The commander, targeted in a compound in the Sangin valley, was one of six killed in the past year by SAS and SBS forces. When the British soldiers entered the compound they discovered a Pakistani military ID on the body.

It was the first physical evidence of covert Pakistani military operations against British forces in Afghanistan even though Islamabad insists it is a close ally in the war against terror.

Britain’s refusal to make the incident public led to a row with the Afghan president Hamid Karzai, who has long accused London of viewing Afghanistan through the eyes of Pakistani military intelligence, which is widely believed to have been helping the Taliban.

“He feels he has been telling everyone about Pakistan for the past six years and here was the evidence, yet London refused to release it, because they care more about their relations with Islamabad than Kabul,” said a source close to the president. “He knows Britain is worried about inflaming its large Pakistani population, but that is no excuse.”

So furious was Karzai that he threatened to expel British diplomats. When some months later he was informed by the governor of Helmand that British officials were secretly negotiating with the Taliban, he expelled two men and accused Britain of wanting to set up a training camp for former Taliban fighters.

Karzai will visit London next month for talks with Gordon Brown in an attempt to repair the strained relations between the two countries.

“He is very sad about the breakdown of relations with Britain,” said the source. “He loves British culture and poetry, had a British education [at a school in India], likes tea in the afternoon and thinks Gordon Brown is a very decent man, not a cheat.”

British officials in Kabul refused to comment on the allegation that they had covered up the discovery of a Pakistani soldier. They insisted Karzai’s government had been informed of the negotiations with the Taliban, adding that “the camp was just a place for them to be reintegrated, learn about hygiene and things”.

During the war against the Soviet Union in the 1980s, officers from Pakistani military intelligence regularly accompanied Afghan mujaheddin inside Afghanistan and directed operations.

The Afghan claims of Pakistani involvement in Helmand were backed by a senior United Nations official who said he had been told by his superiors to keep quiet after Pakistan’s ambassador to the UN apparently threatened to stop contributing forces to peacekeeping missions. Pakistan is the UN’s biggest supplier of peacekeeping troops.

The coalition’s refusal to confront Pakistan changed after the bombing of the Indian embassy in Kabul last July, when 41 people were killed. According to both British and US intelligence, phone intercepts led directly back to an Afghan cell of Pakistan’s military intelligence.

The past month has seen US forces carry out bombings and a ground raid on Pakistani territory. Claims of Pakistan’s involvement were rejected by Asif Durrani, the country’s chargé d’affaires in Kabul. “Afghanistan wants to blame someone else for its problems and Pakistan is just the whipping boy,” he said.

However, repeated accusations from Karzai about Pakistan’s active support for the Taliban have been backed by a senior US marine officer.

Lieutenant-Colonel Chris Nash, who commanded an embedded training team in eastern Afghanistan from June 2007 to March this year, told the Army Times that Pakistani forces flew repeated helicopter missions into Afghanistan to resupply a Taliban base camp during a fierce battle in June last year. Nash said: “We were on the receiving end of Pakistani military D-30 [a howitzer]. On numerous occasions Afghan border police checkpoints and observation posts were attacked by Pakistani military forces.”

Comments by Brigadier Mark Carleton-Smith in The Sunday Times last week that a decisive military victory against the Taliban was not possible and negotiations should be opened have received widespread backing.

General Jean-Louis Georgelin, France’s military chief, said: “There is no military solution to the Afghan crisis and I totally share this feeling.”

Robert Gates, the US defence secretary, who initially dismissed the brigadier’s comments as “defeatist”, said on Friday that the US was now prepared to back talks with the Taliban.

The deadly toll

— 120 British soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan since 2002

— At least 4,200 Afghans, including 1,450 civilians, have died this year alone

— Total cost of British operations in the Afghan war from 2001 to 2008 has been £3.2 billion

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl…icle4926401.ece

Re: Taliban leader killed by SAS was Pakistan officer

care to add how many Pakistani died in this war on terror including Pakistani soldiers??

anyway, this Pakistani officer must be very stupid to have army id with him on covert operation (if it was)

Some of us believe anything if its from western media!

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Amour, keep in mind that last year Karzai kept on saying it was a Pakistani officer, and how everyone else was mum about it. Pakistani media says anything like that, they are termed liars, traitors, and anti-Pak, and when western media reports this, you guys don't believe them. Just who do you want to believe?

Well, passport of one of 9/11 hijackers was found few blocks away from the buildings that collapsed.

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^ But in this case, the British covered up evidence, that he was a Pakistani officer. Keep in mind the Brits arent making this claim, its the Afghans.

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^ I'm not sure about this 'cover-up' thing but do you believe someone on a "covert" operation going into a different country carrying his actual ID with him?

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Maybe it wasnt a covert operation, maybe he was a messenger...

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^ may be he was kidnapped and then got killed? who knows.

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Wasn't this the woman who was deported for attempting to buy a fake PIA ticket with Osama Bin Laden's name on it?

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she was arrested and deported a few years ago.
this is the height of propaganda against pakistan. ive seen this woman on sky news claiming that ''we should go in there (pakistan) and really hit em hard.'' this was before she was deported. christina lamb is a disgrace and i wouldnt be surprised if she was knowingly a part of a larger conspiracy campaign to, at this stage, malign pakistan.

keep the nukes ready and throw every available penny/cent at building assured delivery systems

Spock bhaijan. Are you saying that Pakistan is 'terrorism sponsoring nation?. :eek:

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^ height of selective reading.

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Its probably bs. I mean why would he carry his ID card with him. He's undercover, he'd not carry anything so blatantly incriminating.

Karzai should have been named kharzai, he really is the biggest khar coony ever.

Aalsi, becareful, this guy was killed in Musharraf’s era, so you are indirectly implying that Musharraf was sponsoring terrorism.

so they say he went there with his pakistan army identity..
let them belive themselves...

we are just bunch of crazy A?s from top to bottom got ourselves dragged into this mess.

Just because the western media says something it does nt make its true but sadly once an accusation has been made the mud sticks.

Western media coverage of pakistan is ALWAYS biased and unfair - not that Pakistan is a haven of peace but still dont let yourselves be decived by the media.

The story could well be true but having an ID card means ABSOLUTE ZERO!

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If it is true, one person from Pakistan army fighting with Taliban shouldn't be surprising and can not be taken as sure proof of Pakistan government fighting with alongwith Taliban in Afghanistan. I am sure there are many Pakistanis fighting alongwith Taliban in peronsal capacity or as part of other groups thinking they are fighting in a Jihad. It would not be surprising to find some of these Pakistanis are from Pakistan army. It falls along the known facts that people from Pakistan have been going into Afghanistan to fight in Jihad and that there are many Taliban sympathisers in Pakistan army, FC and intelligence agencies.

Why is it so hard to believe that this Taliban leader was a Pakistani officer? This is nothing new. Remember’Operation Airlift of Evil’](Google Search)?

Its not like the Pakistani media is saying something different. And its not western media, they just reported, its Afghanistan that made the accusation.