Taliban justice! wow! Does sharia law means kidnapping and cold blooded murder?

[burqaposhx]

Islamist militants strike again. More people murdered after kidnapping. Some guppies complain why media talks about Jihad. This is why.

BTW How many of you guppies living in the West would like to be given the same Sharia justice? That people are picked up by Islamist and mutilated dead bodies are thrown back in the town squares? All in the name of Islam.

Do Taliban’s state within Pakistani state show that FATA indeed is a Pakistani territory?

‘Taleban kill three for spying’

Suspected Taleban militants have killed three men in north-west Pakistan after accusing them of spying for the United States, police say.
The bodies were found on a road near Miranshah, the main town in the North Waziristan region.
The lawless region is known to be a hub of Taleban and al-Qaeda militants.
Militants have killed dozens of local tribesmen and Afghan refugees for allegedly spying for US forces in Afghanistan or for Pakistan.
Drone attacks
Two of those shot dead in North Waziristan are reported to be Afghans. The other was Pakistani.
One of the victims, aged 25, had been kidnapped several days earlier.
Notes found near the bodies said they had been found guilty of spying for the United States forces in Afghanistan.
The BBC’s Charles Haviland in Islamabad says there are many instances of militant insurgency close to the Afghan border. Some have a sectarian dimension, others are linked to revenge issues if local people have tried to take action against the Taleban and others are connected with insurgents’ growing attempts to introduce Sharia law.
Taleban militants have imposed Sharia law in parts of Hangu district in North West Frontier Province, reports on Monday said.
North-west Pakistan has seen a number of US drone missile attacks in recent months, causing anger in Islamabad which says the raids are violations of its sovereignty.

BBC NEWS | South Asia | ‘Taleban kill three for spying’

[Truth_Surfer]

@burqaposhx

Islamist militants strike again. More people murdered after kidnapping. Some guppies complain why media talks about Jihad. This is why.

BTW How many of you guppies living in the West would like to be given the same Sharia justice? That people are picked up by Islamist and mutilated dead bodies are thrown back in the town squares? All in the name of Islam.

Do Taliban’s state within Pakistani state show that FATA indeed is a Pakistani territory?

‘Taleban kill three for spying’

Suspected Taleban militants have killed three men in north-west Pakistan after accusing them of spying for the United States, police say.
The bodies were found on a road near Miranshah, the main town in the North Waziristan region.
The lawless region is known to be a hub of Taleban and al-Qaeda militants.
Militants have killed dozens of local tribesmen and Afghan refugees for allegedly spying for US forces in Afghanistan or for Pakistan.
Drone attacks
Two of those shot dead in North Waziristan are reported to be Afghans. The other was Pakistani.
One of the victims, aged 25, had been kidnapped several days earlier.
Notes found near the bodies said they had been found guilty of spying for the United States forces in Afghanistan.
The BBC’s Charles Haviland in Islamabad says there are many instances of militant insurgency close to the Afghan border. Some have a sectarian dimension, others are linked to revenge issues if local people have tried to take action against the Taleban and others are connected with insurgents’ growing attempts to introduce Sharia law.
Taleban militants have imposed Sharia law in parts of Hangu district in North West Frontier Province, reports on Monday said.
North-west Pakistan has seen a number of US drone missile attacks in recent months, causing anger in Islamabad which says the raids are violations of its sovereignty.

BBC NEWS | South Asia | ‘Taleban kill three for spying’

May I know what my friend is trying to discuss, is it “killing” of 3 “innocent” people in the hands of Taliban or is it killing of “300000” in the hands of liberal or moderates.

May I ask why people take their “cases” to Taliban instead of courts headed by our great justice, is it lack of confidence on the judicial system of Pakistan or what?.

There is nothing wrong in Islamic system of jurisprudence as long as it is “Islamic” and not a stereotype “Islamist”, catch the difference if you have a drop of insight.

May I know where did you “borrow” the word “Islamist” and why you use it recklessly?.

Remember , dealing with symptoms can never solve a problem, also remember we will never be able to win this war with guns alone.

On second thought, who am I talking to…

[Changez_like]

May I know what my friend is trying to discuss, is it "killing" of 3 "innocent" people in the hands of Taliban or is it killing of "300000" in the hands of liberal or moderates.

If it were only these 3 then I don't think many of us would've problem with "Taliban". Have you read news about bombings of schools, government buildings, vowing of sending suicide-bombers across the nation, killing people whom they think they are against Taliban. Do you think Pakistani "government" or "people" should be okay with that?

May I ask why people take their "cases" to Taliban instead of courts headed by our great justice, is it lack of confidence on the judicial system of Pakistan or what?.

Its probably because people think they are "Islamic" and provide speedy justice, I agree the system doesn't work efficiently in government courts but then Taliban take people's words and carry out justice, so both of them are wrong approaches to justice system.

There is nothing wrong in Islamic system of jurisprudence as long as it is "Islamic" and not a stereotype "Islamist", catch the difference if you have a drop of insight.

I agree there is nothing wrong IF it is Islamic, thats the keyword right there "IF".

May I know where did you "borrow" the word "Islamist" and why you use it recklessly?.

May be because Taliban claim to be "Islamists"?

Remember , dealing with symptoms can never solve a problem, also remember we will never be able to win this war with guns alone.

How about dealing with symptoms as we try to address the root cause. For diseases like "mad-cow" or "bird-flu" the need is to kill the diseased animal before it spreads and kills other animals.

[Truth_Surfer]

Re: Taliban justice! wow! Does sharia law means kidnapping and cold blooded murder?

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If it were only these 3 then I don't think many of us would've problem with "Taliban". Have you read news about bombings of schools, government buildings, vowing of sending suicide-bombers across the nation, killing people whom they think they are against Taliban. Do you think Pakistani "government" or "people" should be okay with that?

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These acts are despicable just like the drone attacks of foreign forces along with indiscriminate ground attacks by our own forces. Body of one terrorist is always berried under the bodies of 100 innocent civilians; no one has ever questioned the legitimacy in justifying “collateral damage” form Lal Masjid to Sawat, the use of force has created more enemies than it has eliminated. With this backdrop what should we expect from hardliners within several groups of so called Taliban? If it is war for us, it is war for them too and both have shown a complete disregard for the civilian casualties with only one exception that these so called terrorist are gaining strength in number and favor while state loses not only the favor among masses but also her writ and sovereignty.

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Its probably because people think they are "Islamic" and provide speedy justice, I agree the system doesn't work efficiently in government courts but then Taliban take people's words and carry out justice, so both of them are wrong approaches to justice system
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Justice delayed is justice denied, the stress in judicial system is always on “speed”, thanks for admitting that a parallel judicial system is a reflection of lack of justice in our judicial system. However a parallel system is bound to be flawed because of lack of resources and perception of the system standing against the laws of the land.

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I agree there is nothing wrong IF it is Islamic, thats the keyword right there "IF"
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Who will guard when it is not, who has the responsibility? Accepting the righteousness of a system asks for an effort to establish it also. We bear the responsibility that this “IF” is always a “MUST”.

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May be because Taliban claim to be "Islamists"?

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This word was coined by western media as a place holder for “Terrorist” so that every single Muslim can be included with no exceptions.

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How about dealing with symptoms as we try to address the root cause. For diseases like "mad-cow" or "bird-flu" the need is to kill the diseased animal before it spreads and kills other animals.
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We must identify our enemy first, hard line enemies that have no other resolve but to kill. We should be ready to speak with all other regardless of what foreign forces are inclined to do, it is our country and it should be run by us.
It is sad to draw parallels between diseases like BF and fellow human beings who are ill informed, aggrieved, humiliated or left with no options. Remember logic fails only when words thunder like big guns. A perception of complete self righteousness with a total disregard of others point of view is a policy of naked violence.

[dhanya_podena]

Re: Taliban justice! wow! Does sharia law means kidnapping and cold blooded murder?

^people take their cases to Taliban where the Taliban are in control.

Taliban are essentially a militia, like militias in Africa.

[firenze]

Re: Taliban justice! wow! Does sharia law means kidnapping and cold blooded murder?

Sorry they are not militia, they are today Nazi's !

[Moonshiner]

Sorry they are not militia, they are today Nazi's !

The Nazis were actually quite effective and successful for the most part. This analogy is completely wrong.

[Raindance]

[quote=“burqaposhx, post:16, topic:192885”]

Islamist militants strike again. More people murdered after kidnapping. Some guppies complain why media talks about Jihad. This is why.

BTW How many of you guppies living in the West would like to be given the same Sharia justice? That people are picked up by Islamist and mutilated dead bodies are thrown back in the town squares? **All in the name of Islam. **

Do Taliban’s state within Pakistani state show that FATA indeed is a Pakistani territory?

‘Taleban kill three for spying’

Suspected Taleban militants have killed three men in north-west Pakistan after accusing them of spying for the United States, police say.
The bodies were found on a road near Miranshah, the main town in the North Waziristan region.
The lawless region is known to be a hub of Taleban and al-Qaeda militants.
Militants have killed dozens of local tribesmen and Afghan refugees for allegedly spying for US forces in Afghanistan or for Pakistan.
Drone attacks
Two of those shot dead in North Waziristan are reported to be Afghans. The other was Pakistani.
One of the victims, aged 25, had been kidnapped several days earlier.
Notes found near the bodies said they had been found guilty of spying for the United States forces in Afghanistan.
The BBC’s Charles Haviland in Islamabad says there are many instances of militant insurgency close to the Afghan border. Some have a sectarian dimension, others are linked to revenge issues if local people have tried to take action against the Taleban and others are connected with insurgents’ growing attempts to introduce Sharia law.
Taleban militants have imposed Sharia law in parts of Hangu district in North West Frontier Province, reports on Monday said.
North-west Pakistan has seen a number of US drone missile attacks in recent months, causing anger in Islamabad which says the raids are violations of its sovereignty.

BBC NEWS | South Asia | ‘Taleban kill three for spying’/quote

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You r an ‘adeeota’ !
Or may be a real burqaposh who can not see any further than the nose tip.

Such incidents are condenmed time after time by the islamic scholars and men of wisdom. Such barbaric acts are UNISLAMIC and ISLAM has no provision of any kind to justify such killings without 'acusations,trial,chance for jiza or khoon baha in case of slaying.
You r an ADEEOTA to still pick up such qoute unqoute garbage of westeren press when we have already established that west media is clearly biased towards Muslims and Islam.

All true muslims and Pakistanis would downplay such stories rather than hurling them around for “some other” reasons !!! Adeeota

[Balqis]

@burqaposhx

Islamist militants strike again. More people murdered after kidnapping. Some guppies complain why media talks about Jihad. This is why.

BTW How many of you guppies living in the West would like to be given the same Sharia justice? That people are picked up by Islamist and mutilated dead bodies are thrown back in the town squares? All in the name of Islam.

Do Taliban’s state within Pakistani state show that FATA indeed is a Pakistani territory?

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Islam has no link with the barbarian “taliban” ideology ! Stop to call them “islamists” ! Go read the Quran attentively, then you will understand !

This is not because Inquisition took place that Christianism is a barbaric religion, this is not because ISRAHELL is killing innocent people and is exploiting their resources that Judaism is a bad religion, this is not because more than 20 millions people were assasinated during the Staline regime that communism is a bloody ideology !

Every teaching, every ideology, every religion knows extremism !!

[Changez_like]

These acts are despicable just like the drone attacks of foreign forces along with indiscriminate ground attacks by our own forces. Body of one terrorist is always berried under the bodies of 100 innocent civilians; **no one has ever questioned the legitimacy **in justifying “collateral damage” form Lal Masjid to Sawat, the use of force has created more enemies than it has eliminated.

Who says no one has ever questioned? Even Pakistani government has protested sometimes just for the 'press', many writers have questioned it, many media-men have raised their voice.

With this backdrop what should we expect from hardliners within several groups of so called Taliban? If it is war for us, it is war for them too and both have shown a complete disregard for the civilian casualties with only one exception that these so called terrorist are gaining strength in number and favor while state loses not only the favor among masses but also her writ and sovereignty.

Regardless of "backdrop" there is no justification of killing innocent civilians, bombing their educational institutions, it only destroys the society (but do they really believe in society?).

Justice delayed is justice denied, the stress in judicial system is always on “speed”, thanks for admitting that a parallel judicial system is a reflection of lack of justice in our judicial system. However a parallel system is bound to be flawed because of lack of resources and perception of the system standing against the laws of the land.

Thank you for admitting the flaws in parallel system, that indicates that the 'offered' system is of no good either.

Who will guard when it is not, who has the responsibility? Accepting the righteousness of a system asks for an effort to establish it also. We bear the responsibility that this “IF” is always a “MUST”.

And what are we doing for this 'responsibility'? Are we talking to Taliban how they are not Islamic?

This word was coined by western media as a place holder for “Terrorist” so that every single Muslim can be included with no exceptions.

Not sure what you meant but "Islamist" means person who wants to shove his interpretation of Islam onto others, if they wanted to include every single Muslim then they'd not leave people like me alone in their own backyard.

We must identify our enemy first, hard line enemies that have no other resolve but to kill. We should be ready to speak with all other regardless of what foreign forces are inclined to do, it is our country and it should be run by us.

It is sad to draw parallels between diseases like BF and fellow human beings who are ill informed, aggrieved, humiliated or left with no options. Remember logic fails only when words thunder like big guns. A perception of complete self righteousness with a total disregard of others point of view is a policy of naked violence.

I do agree with you that 'coalition' bombing is not a solution, to me they are as cruel as these militants. If I condemn 'coalition' for their barbaric acts I also condemn these militans for their barbaric actions regardless of whether it was chicken or egg first. It is incorrect to assume that those who are 'militants' are only militant because they were humiliated or didn't have any other option.