Meanwhile, the local Taliban held six people on the charge of taking drugs and paraded them naked in a bazaar in Inayat Killey.
remind me, which authority of fiqh has considered it compliant with shariah to parade people naked?
They also warned against listening to music, drinking liquor and using drugs and said violators would be given punishment in line with Islamic injunctions.
like what? being paraded naked on the streets or being gang banged? If idiotic panchayats from moronic cultures can give those verdicts than so can these ignoramus peasants.
Exactly, so called Muslims such as the Taliban have defaced the relgion to the point where its become something reviled around the world.. The sooner these people are killed or put in their place, Islam will have been victorious!
This war has nothing to do with religion; it's all about pursuing policies based on ulterior and futile motives on one end and revenge on the other. The motives are well discussed in other threads.
Let's count out the divine condonement based on what the scripture teaches us. After that, it only comes down to tactics, and battle strategems. Who ever got the opportunity will not cease to inflict maximum damage. I have quoted opportunity, since the capability is a non-issue here. If one can spy on the other in the depth of darkness, and can strike with absolute quietness, the other can afflict with equal force in the open; as we have witnessed today..and in reality this is all I foresee - more casualties and killings on both sides..sadly enough..
remind me, which authority of fiqh has considered it compliant with shariah to parade people naked?
like what? being paraded naked on the streets or being gang banged? If idiotic panchayats from moronic cultures can give those verdicts than so can these ignoramus peasants.
As I have mentioned abstractly, that such actions cannot be condoned and obviously have no place what so ever in Islam. I should have been more specific. I am just highlighting the political quagmire and the resulting spiral of violence..
This war has nothing to do with religion; it's all about pursuing policies based on ulterior and futile motives on one end and revenge on the other. The motives are well discuess in other threads.
Let's count out the divine condonement based on what the scripture teaches us. After that, it only comes down to tactics, and battle strategems. Who ever got the opportunity will not cease to inflict maximum damage. I have quoted opportunity, since the capability is a non-issue here. If one can spy on the other in the depth of darkness, and can strike with absolute quiteness, the other can afflict with equal force in the open; as we have witnessed today..and in reality this is all I foresee - more casualties and killings on both sides..sadly enough..
This war has everything to do with relgion as far as im concerned... Its against the spread of the Taliban evil over the entire country... To me thats an idealogical struggle.
And if we have to die fighting this evil, then so be it... But better them then us.
are you hoping that the govt will enforce its writ? :)
so teh way to deal with militancy is to just tackle it head on...
I am all for it.
If you ask my point of view; it requires absolute 'sabr' (patience) on behalf of both parties, and the Ullema need to emapthize this point to the militants to lay-down arms and do not take on the Muslims as a first step. This juncture needs a lot of healing and let go of animosity as opposed to blunt force and subsequent acts of revenge..we need dialogue more than anything..
I see political game being played by MMA behind the scene, they are mad at government for taking actions againt the Lal Masjid shmucks so they told someone else to stand up and do something along same lines as Lal Masjid... otherwise why they didn't enforce this sharia an year ago? People will be ruthlessly abused/killed in name of religious politics while giving bad name to Islam.
This war has everything to do with relgion as far as im concerned... Its against the spread of the Taliban evil over the entire country... To me thats an idealogical struggle.
And if we have to die fighting this evil, then so be it... But better them then us.
Which religion and whose ideology? If it's a political ideological struggle, then it only validates my point that this is in fact a battle of control and not a whole lot more..
Which religion and whose ideology? If it's a political ideological struggle, then it only validates my point that this is in fact a battle of control and not a whole lot more..
Yaar, its obvious what we DONT want... We dont want the system of Islam being implimented in FATA by the Taliban. I can go down the list of things that we DONT want in Pakistan...
For the militants, this is an ideological struggle, for the govt it may not be...
For me, and im sure for many liberals in Pakistan, this is a struggle for the identity of Islam and its place in Pakistan.
Any relatively relgious person, who isnt an extreme fundamentalist will agree that this is a struggle within Islam against the moderate liberals and extrmeist fundamentlaists...
Yaar, its obvious what we DONT want... We dont want the system of Islam being implimented in FATA by the Taliban. I can go down the list of things that we DONT want in Pakistan...
For the militants, this is an ideological struggle, for the govt it may not be...
For me, and im sure for many liberals in Pakistan, this is a struggle for the identity of Islam and its place in Pakistan.
Any relatively relgious person, who isnt an extreme fundamentalist will agree that this is a struggle within Islam against the moderate liberals and extrmeist fundamentlaists...
With all due respect, Islam is in no need of identity. What's corrupted is the state of individuals' understanding and ability to practice it as per doctrine. The other problem arises, when under such a state of Muslims, number of political forces are trying to shove their creed in the form of regulations, coupled with swaggering foreigners' mandate under pressure. Therefore, it goes back to reviving the fundamental principles and practices amongst Muslims such as Iman and Yaqeen, and Salat with devotion..more than anything.
As I have mentioned abstractly, that such actions cannot be condoned and obviously have no place what so ever in Islam. I should have been more specific. I am just highlighting the political quagmire and the resulting spiral of violence..
The issue is that we dont see the religious-political groups blast these guys and their idiotic notions of shariah.
The other problem arises, when under such a state of Muslims, number of political forces are trying to shove their creed in the form of regulations
What a load of bollox. I think you will find Islam is flexible new laws can be created. Anyway what are your brothers in arms doing by supporting MMA mr no politics?