Taliban cut off heads of 17 people for having music at party :-(

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Re: Taliban cut off heads of 17 people for having music at party :-(

I realize this story has turned into lets bash islam thread by i presume secularists. But original story was claiming taliban cut heads of 17 people where is the evidence it was committed by them? having a newspaper claiming its taliban or British minister claiming such is not proof in itself we know they have an agenda and we also know the US and UK military forces and their agencies are in the country they equally could have committed atrocities and pin blame on opposition.

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You presume wrong.

Secularists simply believe in the separation of religion and govt. To imply that a secularist is inherently against Islam is idiotic to say the least.

The bashing of Islam ironically is at the hands of those who think they are defending it. By keeping Islam away from politics, secularists are for more Islamic then the morons cutting of heads.

Why are you so adamant about defending them? There is no evidence, all we have is past conduct.

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Peace Med911

Please re-read the post by Saif7

His presumption was about who the people are on this forum who are juxtaposing the
Islamic position. His assumption is those people are the Muslim secularists.

He is not saying that secularists are against Islam ... He is saying that the secularists here are bashing Islam. Which is true. Instead of bashing the "Taliban" for being unIslamic ... People are being careless and instead end up bashing Islam ... Or so it appears to the non-secularists.

It is about defending any person no matter how badly we hate them ... It is an injustice on OUR souls to falsely accuse another of a crime he did not commit.

If a serial murderer killed only men but he was being blamed for killing a woman too ... That is an injustice ... It does not matter that the man is a serial murderer ... The accusation HAS to be right for the sake of the dead woman and for the sake of TRUTH. Saying that there is no evidence to pin the woman's murder on the serial murderer is not equivalent to defending the murderer.

Rather it is about being correct ... And unbiased.

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story has turned into lets bash islam thread by i presume secularists.

Another words, if there are people bashing Islam, they must be "secularists." How did I miss read that?

I dont think anyone has declared themselves to be "secular" on this thread.

Well, a blaming anyone of being a serial killer, despite not having proven it in a court of law, would still be an injustice. But for the sake of argument lets assume he has admited to killing men as the Taliban have. Suddenly, women start dying. The murder has all the hallmarks of the serial killer in question, however he doesnt admit it.
Now, its reasonable to conclude that the serial killer, being as deranged as he is he, may also be a liar. Its nor unheard of that serial killers be liars aswell. So believing the serial killer is infact the same person killing women is not an unreasonable conclusion, and you would not fault the police for following this line of reasoning either.

In the case of the Taliban, there is a known history of such criminality. They are known to be tactical, manipulative. There is no valid reason to conclude they didnt do it, and every reason to assume they did.

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Fistly it seems you feel a guilty conscience in having to defend secularism and i don't blame you for that because the amount of genocides and poverty they have spread through out the world is unmatchable.

On issue of defending taliban again you have misread the post a common problem you seem to be having.

The issue is we have several players in the area of conflict we have NATO nations including United States and Britian, we also have a mixture of mujahideen from soviet era/taliban and foreign fighters with some support from pakistan.

you have chosen without evidence to say Taliban did it

you have ignored the fact we have 2 nations i.e britian and united states who have killed, assassinated and murdered millions and still not publicly admit to it. They have kill squads operating even to this day and some former ones who brag about it on social media once they finish their mission.

So on what evidence can you pin blame on one party and not even accuse the other?