Re: Taliban cut off heads of 17 people for having music at party :-(
who finds irony in janjua's saying tht upon seeing picture of "chopped heads" he wud be satisfied that its work of his "jihadi" heroes.....
Re: Taliban cut off heads of 17 people for having music at party :-(
who finds irony in janjua's saying tht upon seeing picture of "chopped heads" he wud be satisfied that its work of his "jihadi" heroes.....
Re: Taliban cut off heads of 17 people for having music at party :-(
who finds irony in janjua's saying tht upon seeing picture of "chopped heads" he wud be satisfied that its work of his "jihadi" heroes.....
Nussairee typical of your ilk to instigate. :)
Re: Taliban cut off heads of 17 people for having music at party :-(
I promise, I wudnt instigate and leave them and their lovers at peace to get upto whatever they want to get up to in their caves as long as they stop "chopping heads" of "my ilk" and other weak and innocent human beings......tell me something, whats with the fetish of taking photos and making videos while they "chop heads"? .......
Re: Taliban cut off heads of 17 people for having music at party :-(
the taliban and like minded people are a cancer within islam. I know that only a minority agree with this sick ideology but its enough to give these animals a sense of empowerment.
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Afghans become wild especially drunk
about as much as muslims become terrorists when they grow a beard. bakwas band kar oye. what was the source of your great taliban news network?
So a bacha baazi event then?
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The 'media representative' indeed very brave to be at that place and covered all the incident without fearing for his or her life :)
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^ rightly said
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Report Of Investigation By Qualified Board Of Islamic Emirate Regarding Claim Of Beheading Of 17 Civilians In Roshanabad Area Of Helmand Province’s Sangin District**
Zul Qa'dah 09, 1433 A.H, Thursday, September 27, 2012
In the Name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.
The officials of Kabul administration in Helmand province claimed 2 months earlier that seventeen people including 2 women were brutally beheaded at night time in Roshanabad area of Sangin district. The mentioned event was picked up by all major news outlets citing the Kabul administration’s spokesperson for Helmand province (Daud Ahmadi) as a source and placing the blame squarely on the local Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate.
The high ranking Mujahideen officials in the area were repeatedly questioned however the answer each time was that no Mujahideen were involved and neither are they aware of such an incident taking place in that remote region. As the area was under the control of Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate, therefore the head of Islamic Emirate dispatched a qualified board to the region to carry out a full, thorough and prolonged investigation and then forward the findings back to the leader. The final report of this qualified board of Islamic Emirate has completed its investigation, the results of which we want to share with the media as well as the entire nation.
The mentioned claim which supposedly took place in Roshanabad area of Helmand province’s Sangin district has not occurred in the stated area or in the entire province. The board of Islamic Emirate, with help from the elders, youngsters and distinguished personalities, travelled on foot in the province’s Sangin, Musa Kala, Kajaki, Bughni, Baghran and Zamindawar regions, went from door to door and asked about related information and found that all the locals labeled the incident as fabrication and showed complete ignorance of such a happening.
Two respected personalities of Roshanabad (Haji La’l Muhammad and Haji Muhammad Yar) said that they were taken by surprise after hearing of about the incident and promptly carried out a joint investigation with the Mujahideen and locals in the initial days however nothing as such has transpired in the entire Sangin district and especially in Roshanabad area thus all the residents of the area are now certain that this claim is a blatant lie; nothing like this has taken place here; no one plays music here and neither has anyone been killed for such a thing; no one has seen the bodies of the dead and neither is there a single person aware of the incident.
The above testimonies as well as the repeated investigations clearly show that no such event has ever taken place in Roshanabad, Sangin or even the entire Helmand province as was claimed by the Kabul administration’s spokesperson for Helmand province as well as published by some self-interested outlets as headline grabbing material by using one-sided information and for defaming purposes.
The Islamic Emirate has completed its investigation regarding this matter and states that nothing as such has taken place in the area and all the reports and claims about it are false. If any person or sides including the media want to carry out an unbiased investigation in the area and inform itself on the matter, then they are welcomed to send their teams and inquire with the people, collect information and carry out their duty. The Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate based in the area will help all those who wish to clear up facts and inform themselves about the realities.
The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan
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Just found this news, thought worthwhile to share here.
Re: Taliban cut off heads of 17 people for having music at party :-(
Message to the people commenting on this article except a few:
Despite your natural aversion to the Taliban, please verify all information before you question them.
a) There is no hudd punishment of head severing in Shari'ah law for listening to music
b) Taliban did not admit to the attack in the OP article - This is out of character they are not afraid of admiting their actions
c) The news was broadcast by an Indian newspaper - although the OP acknowledged this, then what prevented from further investigation?
According to my understanding of Taliban they are very harsh - i.e. they will wrongfully implement the full hudd punishments in any situation that arises, but they will not implement a punishment where there is no slight evidence for it. I don't agree with their tactics - but at the same time I don't think they are animals - i.e. they don't act in rage - they are just very ruthless and strict with the laws.
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^ I agree that people should investigate a bit before commenting or attributing something to others. but I strongly disagree with your suggestion that Taliban base their decisions on Islami Shariah.
They don’t represent a state, they are mere outlaws so they are not eligible to make decisions that is fitting for a state.
How do you explain this?
Taliban militants beheaded 12 Pakistani soldiers with an axe - Wichita Military Affairs | Examiner.com
which shariah law was followed here?
several suicide bombings in public places like moon market lahore and even in mosques
which shariah law was followed?
Re: Taliban cut off heads of 17 people for having music at party :-(
^ your post is about TTP not afghan taliban, there is a difference
there is a clear disconnect between TTP and afghan taliban, this has been clearly announced by Afghan Taliban earlier.
and secondly TTP is not one group its a mess of many thugs, looters, killers, etc
even afghan taliban are not one group, these similar names are purposefully used, to create ambiguity
the name "taliban" has become the best way to dump all the filth on, do whatever you want, instigate anger, kill people, burn stuff, and blame it on taliban and nobody will question you, guaranteed. as you can see in this thread. and the bonus point is, get TTP to accept any terrorist activity and you have a link to the "taliban" irrespective of who the hell was TTP in the first place, no question about that...
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^ ok.
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I don't think Afghan Taliban are/were any better than TTP etc.
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I don’t know if they were good or bad. But just for the sake of it, how can they be any better? in the presence of this huge media empire... which can make anyone devil anytime they want to, and paint the worst of the human being a saint : )
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I don’t know if they were good or bad. But just for the sake of it, how can they be any better? in the presence of this huge media empire... which can make anyone devil anytime they want to, and paint the worst of the human being a saint : )
Well that's how I see it. If I start making excuses for Talibans then I should be making excuses for US and allies too.
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go ahead, make the excuses if you think it was an excuse for anyone.
US and allies do have a strong presences in media, rather they own it. Which is like a complete war theater, a battle ground where they are leading without any doubt... that’s a reality not an excuse. The opponent on the other hand has near to zero say, and almost no strength in this media war. There are no alternate sources, no independent media today. Which leaves most of us believing in whatever rubbish the media throws our way. However, we should sometime "try" to think ourselves that painting their enemy as a bad guy earns them respect and support, gives them some kind of moral ground to fight, when they have this power on their disposal, why should not they use it, it’s only natural.
Re: Taliban cut off heads of 17 people for having music at party :-(
Message to the people commenting on this article except a few:
Despite your natural aversion to the Taliban, please verify all information before you question them.
a) There is no hudd punishment of head severing in Shari'ah law for listening to music b) Taliban did not admit to the attack in the OP article - This is out of character they are not afraid of admiting their actions c) The news was broadcast by an Indian newspaper - although the OP acknowledged this, then what prevented from further investigation?
According to my understanding of Taliban they are very harsh - i.e. they will wrongfully implement the full hudd punishments in any situation that arises, but they will not implement a punishment where there is no slight evidence for it. I don't agree with their tactics - but at the same time I don't think they are animals - i.e. they don't act in rage - they are just very ruthless and strict with the laws.
You forget their public executions, which weren't pleasant in any way, and should be enough to classify them as barbaric on its own but we continue... Their baton wielding sharia enforcers known to beat people (women mostly) on the streets, their relegation of women to nothing more then captives, who exist solely to serve the men in their families, reproducing and taking care of children, refusing them education, or any voice inside or outside their homes. Currently the Talibans offshoots have been bombing schools, murdering artists, murdering any women they deem to be unIslamic, killing Shias or supporting their murder merely for existing, executing and then exhibiting their crimes through grotesque videos of their beheaded victims, their reliance on criminal activity to finance their "jihad," there use of CHILDREN as suicide bombers to not only attack western targets but also other Muslims, their disdain for any form of culture that is not associated in their minds with Islam, hence the tragic destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas, and the Buddhist heritage in Swat.
No I wouldnt call them animals either, because animals arent this malevolent and demented.
Re: Taliban cut off heads of 17 people for having music at party :-(
^ your post is about TTP not afghan taliban, there is a difference
there is a clear disconnect between TTP and afghan taliban, this has been clearly announced by Afghan Taliban earlier. and secondly TTP is not one group its a mess of many thugs, looters, killers, etc
even afghan taliban are not one group, these similar names are purposefully used, to create ambiguity
the name "taliban" has become the best way to dump all the filth on, do whatever you want, instigate anger, kill people, burn stuff, and blame it on taliban and nobody will question you, guaranteed. as you can see in this thread. and the bonus point is, get TTP to accept any terrorist activity and you have a link to the "taliban" irrespective of who the hell was TTP in the first place, no question about that...
What exactly can you tell us about the Aghani Taliban that in your mind can redeem them? Their public executions, their diminution of women to the level of chattel, their destruction of heritage and culture? I mean what exactly was it about the Taliban in Afghanistan that in your mind that meade them great?
Was it that they brought some rudimentary peace to the country? In that case, one could assume that any victor would bring peace. Had the Nazi's won in WW2 there would have also then been peace. But that peace would have been at the expense of freedom and justice. Afghani peace under Taliban came at the expense of all pretences to freedom and threw women so far under the bus that they have yet to get out from under it again.
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^ and there is peace after american invasion of afghanistan?
by the way, public execution is part of islamic shariya, you like it or not.
Re: Taliban cut off heads of 17 people for having music at party :-(
^ and there is peace after american invasion of afghanistan?
by the way, public execution is part of islamic shariya, you like it or not.
lol... No there is no peace. I guess we should bring the Taliban back again. Because if its one thing everyone loves, it human subjugation in the guise of ISLAM! Better a life as a slave to the beards, then relative freedom under the Americans.
By the way, Sharia law is open to interpretation, whether YOU like it or not. You are free to interpret it in the most barbaric and primitive manner you like, but most normal, reasonable, and progressive individuals find publicly murdering anyone to be disgusting and repulsive, whether you like it or not. I for one refuse to believe that public execution of a human being like some rabid dog is in any way Islamic, and if you think it is, then I pity you. I mean is there no part of you brain that isnt repulsed by seeing human beings having their heads chopped off and corpses lying in the middle of the street? What kind of demented mind do you have?