Re: taliban attacked checkpost in Peshawar, SP and 6 other killed.
Where did you read that?
well, you have certainly not hear him say single word against them. to say, you are not doing it, because you are worried for your party workes lives, thats cowardice to me, and sorry to say leaders cant be cowards. i have said this before, you are either with them or against them, there is no such thing as neutrality.
Re: taliban attacked checkpost in Peshawar, SP and 6 other killed.
Wait till the apologists like JI and Imran Khan and Talib supporters on this forum and come and deny that Ehsanullah gave such statement. They will insist that what does this animal knows, only JI, Imran and talib supporters know better.
TTP= wehsi kuttay
That is the point I have been trying to make that there are no good Taliban...in Afghanistan or in Pakistan, yet people here are defending them arguing that Pakistani Taliban are bad, but Afghan Taliban are somehow good.
Re: taliban attacked checkpost in Peshawar, SP and 6 other killed.
army cant be deployed everywhere, its the state responsibility to provide police with proper training and adequate weapons. in this case, it was indeed really upsetting to see how the battle went on for hours, but there was no backup, no reinforcements were sent whtsoever.
Army is sent when regular policing fails. With rising number of brutal incidents of police officers getting killed , isnt this high time that the government sends army through properly equiped ? and if the government is the one that is wearing the choori's then shouldnt army generals question the government ?
Sacrificing police officers is just not the way forward .. we are clearly at war here .. If the bloody Taliban think , this is what Jihad is .. then Islamic Republic of Pakistan needs to teach those mongols what real Jihad is , through our Army.
But then again, no one is willing to take the responsibility , neither the government , nor the Army and who gets sacrificed like goats? yup, the civilians and the shantily trained police officers ..
Re: taliban attacked checkpost in Peshawar, SP and 6 other killed.
well, you have certainly not hear him say single word against them. to say, you are not doing it, because you are worried for your party workes lives, thats cowardice to me, and sorry to say leaders cant be cowards. i have said this before, you are either with them or against them, there is no such thing as neutrality.
I agree with this perspective , though I think its too early to say anything about Imran Khan. He's still a civilian and not in power. He is bound to take responsibility for the security of his party workers. Once he comes in power inshallah and has the state machinery at his disposal and if he still continues to take the neutral route, then we can definitely class it as cowardice .. but right now, I back him up fully coz he doesnt have any resources that will protect him or his party workers.
That is the point I have been trying to make that there are no good Taliban...in Afghanistan or in Pakistan, yet people here are defending them arguing that Pakistani Taliban are bad, but Afghan Taliban are somehow good.
Lets face it , the word is the same , but the meaning of it has two faces ..
In Afghanistan , the Afghans are fighting against the American takeover. Thats justified I believe, America had no right to cross its limits. However , the Afghans did not disassociate themselves when rowdy Pakistani Taliban started commiting criminal and barbaric acts against the muslims.
Had the Afghan fighters openly disassociated themselves from these so called Talibans , and sent a clear message to the world that they have nothing to do with these criminals , then no one would have called the Afghan fighters bad people.
but clearly they are standing in unison with the Taliban that are busy killing more muslims then anyone else ,in the name if Islam and hence any Taliban be it Afghan's or Pakistani's are criminals and need to be tackled with equal force.
Re: taliban attacked checkpost in Peshawar, SP and 6 other killed.
In Afghanistan , the Afghans are fighting against the American takeover. Thats justified I believe, America had no right to cross its limits.
Again, this notion that America invaded Afghanistan for no reason at is not true. After 9/11 the US gave Taliban time to hand over those responsible for the attack. Taliban refused. That is what led to attack on Afghanistan & it was totally justified. Now, like it or not, that was blessing in disguise for Pakistan, b/c monster that was being nurtured by ISI and Pakistani jihadi generals in Afghanistan was eventually going devour Pakistan, but this attack forced the nation to have a reality check...despite enormous cost.
Re: taliban attacked checkpost in Peshawar, SP and 6 other killed.
well, you have certainly not hear him say single word against them. to say, you are not doing it, because you are worried for your party workes lives, thats cowardice to me, and sorry to say leaders cant be cowards. i have said this before, you are either with them or against them, there is no such thing as neutrality.
I agree with him being coward about his workers I already said that couple of times. But to actually "support" and not condemn directly are two diff things IMO.
Re: taliban attacked checkpost in Peshawar, SP and 6 other killed.
Again, this notion that America invaded Afghanistan for no reason at is not true. After 9/11 the US gave Taliban time to hand over those responsible for the attack. Taliban refused. That is what led to attack on Afghanistan & it was totally justified. Now, like it or not, that was blessing in disguise for Pakistan, b/c monster that was being nurtured by ISI and Pakistani jihadi generals in Afghanistan was eventually going devour Pakistan, but this attack forced the nation to have a reality check...despite enormous cost.
That is incorrect, they offered to handover to 3rd country who will actually investigate / prosecute.
Re: taliban attacked checkpost in Peshawar, SP and 6 other killed.
Army is sent when regular policing fails. With rising number of brutal incidents of police officers getting killed , isnt this high time that the government sends army through properly equiped ? and if the government is the one that is wearing the choori's then shouldnt army generals question the government ?
Sacrificing police officers is just not the way forward .. we are clearly at war here .. If the bloody Taliban think , this is what Jihad is .. then Islamic Republic of Pakistan needs to teach those mongols what real Jihad is , through our Army.
But then again, no one is willing to take the responsibility , neither the government , nor the Army and who gets sacrificed like goats? yup, the civilians and the shantily trained police officers ..
agreed, govt has miserbly failed to curb the militancy, that's because they dont really have a clear strategy against them. God knows, when will the wake up and take zero tolerance policy against these savages.
Re: taliban attacked checkpost in Peshawar, SP and 6 other killed.
I agree with him being coward about his workers I already said that couple of times. But to actually "support" and not condemn directly are two diff things IMO.
but by not speaking against them, he is giving this impression that he maybe their sympathiser, no?
Re: taliban attacked checkpost in Peshawar, SP and 6 other killed.
I agree with this perspective , though I think its too early to say anything about Imran Khan. He's still a civilian and not in power. He is bound to take responsibility for the security of his party workers. Once he comes in power inshallah and has the state machinery at his disposal and if he still continues to take the neutral route, then we can definitely class it as cowardice .. but right now, I back him up fully coz he doesnt have any resources that will protect him or his party workers.
I dont agree with that part that he doesnt have security so choses not to speak against them. Let's just look at example of Malala and her classmates, who even after Malala's tragedy were willing to come on camera and tell the taliban that they are not scared of them and this attack will not deter them from achieving with their goal, infact this attack only strengthen their mission. and even before Malala's tragedy many common Pakistanis have come out and spoke against taliban, they didnt have any security or protection from the govt.
Also, if this is his attitude now, Im scared to think what will happen when he actually comes in power.
People look upto him, he needs to come out with a clearer stance against these savages
Re: taliban attacked checkpost in Peshawar, SP and 6 other killed.
Very Sad
Another suicide attack in Peshawar
ASP, two others killed in Peshawar blast: 25 injured
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4 including SP killed in Peshawar blast
Another SP killed in Peshawar .