Taliban and ANP: hand in hand

Very interesting read over how Taliban now rules over large parts of the Pashtun areas and is practically another state separate from Pakistan. And how easily the ANP, so called Pashtun seculars are tied to the hip with the Taliban.

The Brits did a great job screwing over the people of the region by drawing the Durand line.

Pakistan’s Swat peace agreement in the crossfire
By Bill RoggioJune 9, 2008 2:42 PM

Red agencies/ districts controlled by the Taliban; purple is de facto control; yellow is under threat.

Tensions have arisen between the central government and the Taliban in Swat, and the central government at the provincial government, over the Swat peace agreement signed last month. The central government said the Swat accord has been negated due to Taliban attacks. The Taliban and the Awami National Party, which administers the Northwest Frontier Province, said the agreement was still valid.

“The Swat agreement is scrapped as the militants have (continued) their attacks on security forces,” Rahman Malik, an advisor to Pakistan’s prime minister said. Malik’s statement comes after four policemen were killed in an ambush in the provincial capital of Peshawar. On June 5, two policemen and two civilians were wounded in a shootout in Nowshera. Peshawar has been described as a “walled city,” while its police chief said the Taliban is poised to overrun the city.

Both the Taliban and the provincial government said the deal was intact. Bashir Bilour, the senior minister in the Northwest Frontier Province and the leader of the Awami National Party “reacted angrily” to the central government’s announcement, according to the Press Trust of India. Bilour said the peace agreement was still intact, Pajhwok reported.

Taliban spokesman Muslim Khan said that since the agreement was signed with the provincial government, and “not with Rehman Malik”, the central government could not negate the agreement.

Prior to the latest dispute over the peace agreement, the provincial government has been conducting prisoner exchanges with the Taliban. Seven Taliban in Swat were released on June 7; 64 were released in Swat on June 6; and 75 were freed in Malakand on June 4.

The Taliban put the Pakistani government on notice just one day ago. The Taliban distributed pamphlets to Pakistani news organizations that warned the government to stick to the peace agreements or face a new campaign of violence. The Taliban threatened to open “new fronts” within Pakistan. The extremists also said the government must end its support for the US-led war on terror “as its ramifications could be dangerous.”

This year, the government signed peace deals in Swat, Bajaur, Malakand, and Mohmand. Negotiations are under way in Kohat and Mardan. The Taliban has violated the terms of thees agreements in every region where accords have been inked.

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ANP has been historically been both, at odds with extremist pashtuns and in bed with them. There is a lot of cultural stuff that keeps them together, but its the governing ideologies that keeps them apart.

i dont things in Peshawar are that bad where its is a walled city. The Taliban could not even hang on to Swat how they would manage to take over a place like Peshawar at this stage would be something else.

People were blaming Musharaf but if a new government is having the same problems then one has to ask whats going on?

Its not so much as the physical lands they hold and control, its the sympathy they receive to do their dirty work.

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So where is this fabled offensive that you were harping about some 6-8 months back?

Pakhtuns have been manipulated to no end..all in the name of Islam.

When the Russians came, it was these 'holy warriors' that were considered to be freedom fighters by your master Ronald Reagan.

When Pakistan needed the brilliant idea of 'strategic depth' and setting up training camps for insurgents in Kashmir, these same Taliban become the closest ally.

Now they are 'terrorists' and fundamentalists seeking to destroy Pakistan (conveniently after 9-11).

Maybe if Pakistanis like you would come up with a coherent policy, this would not be happening.

Again, where is that full scale scorched earth offensive that you talked about? mind you this was before the present governmental setup.

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MQMers hates pakhtuns, punjabiz, baluchis, and sindhis, who exactly do they like?

You didn't notice the change of government recently or the ANP coming into power? Jihadis were always terrorists, it's just that some realized this only after 9/11. You're right Pakistan does not have a consistent policy due to political instability from pro-jihadi groups.

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This just shows how bitter the MQM is, they will have problems with anyone who is in power in NWFP/Pakhtunkhawa, be it ANP (a moderate liberal party), or the MMA.

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Taliban is the real power in many parts of that province, and ANP is now in bed with them as well.

How much time has the recent government had to deal with the issues? Only months. While the military government had years. What is your excuse? After all you had spoken so strongly in Musharraf's defense. I ask again, what HAPPENED to that offensive, that was going to 'liberate' FATA?

I never said that I supported ANP.I just support the Pakhtunkhwa portion of their platform.

Oh please talk to someone who doesn't know about Pakistani history, maybe then your lies will stick. Electorally, the Islamist parties had the strongest showing after Pakistan had a deathbed conversion on 9/12/01 and dumped the Taliban. How about stop using Pakhtuns and calling them jihadi terrorists at the same time?

Wow, I am impressed. So quoting some random article written by a Westerner, suddenly makes you an expert on where the Taliban are in power?

Btw, that map is so off base and sensationalist.

Recent events prove me right.

I agree ISI should stop using jihadis as part of their policy and army should not play both sides, but making peace deals with taliban will result in more "hot pursuits".

No, historical realities on the ground and the governments approach make the difference.

Thats good. Do you think that being allied with the US will make everything right? It is because of the US in Afghanistan, that we have this problem.

I have not read all the posts in this thread. But please enlighten me, are you saying that all this extremism in Afghainstan now,with the presence of Arabs, Uzbeks,Chechen fighters/Taliban etc since the 1980's-1990's is because of US??

Not antagonizing the US is part of the solution, yes. But being on the right side of the fight is the answer, no matter what the US does or does not do. The right side being not supporting the jihadis.

I am done answering rhetorical questions. I recommend that you watch these two videos to get an idea of where patriotic Pakistanis stand. These videos are pretty balanced and not made some westerner with limited knowledge of Pakistan. I don’t speak for watan faroosh American stooges, I am sure tht they can answer themselves.

^ Well these videos do not show or prove much.

We all know that Pakistani/Afghanistani Madrassah's were full of foreign elements once, when Pakistan was being mold into a" Khilafa".

Maulvi Sami Ul Haq says that we are like one community even if something goes on in jungles of Phillipines it's our duty to fight with it..... He says there are suicide bombings as bombers see "Jannah" in front of their eyes.

You said that it is because of US that we have all these problems in Afghanistan,I simply asked you who invited all these foriegn fighters into Afghanistan/Pakistan to strengthen this " Khilafa " and acheive "Jannah"?? Pakistani authorities are as much to blame as anyone else. I don't think ANP has much to do with the Taliban movement though.