Here is an excerpt from an article posted up on the oh so infallible rawa site regarding this photograph.
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The woman, identified only as Zarmeena, a mother of seven children, was found guilty of beating her husband to death with a steel hammer as he slept.
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The woman, identified only as Zarmeena, a mother of seven children, was found guilty of beating her husband to death with a steel hammer as he slept.. <<<
May be she was also following the Quranic Laws for all you and I know? Surround yourself in her condition too.
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Originally posted by Girl from Quraysh:
**Farhina, i suggest you acquaint yourself with the circumstances surrounding this case. Failing to do so, i think one would say that would be a valid enough reason to say that you too are narrow minded in your approach.
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oh really ! Well you think that is how the whole world is going to response to it. Do you know what could be the reason which make a wife and mother of seven kids hammer her husband and a father of her seven children. I am not defending her act of killin' but I just what you to THINK what could be the reason.. and GET TO KNOW WHAT WAS THE REASON. I wish you could feel the pain the muslim are suffering specailly woman in AFghanistan.
Think for a moment WHAT IF YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO GO OUT OF YOUR HOME? WHAT IF YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO GO OUT TO SCHOOL and IF YOU GO OUT YOU GET KILL FOR IT? WHAT IF YOU JUST HAVE TO ACT ACCORDING TO SOME terrorist HUSBAND?
Do you think the way TALIBAN are representatin' the ISLAM to the world is right?
Well, If you think they are right then MAY ALLAH help you see the right path. Path of the true muslim.
(amen)
[This message has been edited by Farhina (edited April 12, 2001).]
[This message has been edited by Farhina (edited April 12, 2001).]
[This message has been edited by Farhina (edited April 12, 2001).]
what you say world is saying this
The Taliban Story:
God's Holy Warriors or the Devil's Militia?
The story of the Taliban is complicated, and just like every other story, there are two sides to it. When the members of the Taliban first revealed themselves, they gave the world the impression that they had come to rid Afghanistan of its problems. At first, even the ousted government of today, recognized the Taliban as a legitimate Afghan force that wanted to rid corruption and disorder. However, as time passed, the true nature of the Taliban was revealed. Soon, the Taliban became known as a militia that used a mixture of Kalashnikovs, false Islam, foreign money, and opium to get its way.
Who are these men of the Taliban? Where did they come from? What do they want to do with Afghanistan? These are but a few of the questions present in the minds of civilized people everywhere.
Members of the Taliban claim that they are students of Islam, and that all they want to do is to bring Afghanistan under Islamic rule. They claim that their movement began in September of 1994, in the southern Afghan province of Kandahar. At that time, they say Kandahar was plagued by groups that robbed, killed, and raped the populace. One man by the name of Mullah Mohammad Omar wanted to end these reprehensible acts, and so he started this reform movement.
As wonderful as this story might sound, the evidence points in the opposite direction. In reality, the Taliban is a military and political force trained and built by Pakistan. While it is true that the Talib foot soldiers are young Afghans who studied in religous schools in Pakistan during the Soviet war, the higher officials of the Taliban are made up of former communist government officials and puppets controlled by Saudia Arabia and Pakistan. There are even Pakistanis amongst them. Both Asiaweek (Not so hidden hand, 11/25/96), and Times Magazine (Friends of the Taliban (November, 1996) presented stories of Pakistanis captured amongst the Talib fighters. Time Magazine even published photographs of Pakistani prisoners, who were captured by the Afghan government, led by President Burhanuddin Rabbani.
The Taliban were trained by the Frontier Constabulary, a para-military force of the Interior Ministry of Pakistan. At that time it was headed by Gen. Nasrullah Babar. The ISI, were not involved in the earlier stages of Taliban development, but they definetly had a hand in the later stages. After Pakistan properly prepared the Taliban, they spread the news that the Taliban is a group fighting the corruption amongst the Mujahideen, on grounds of Islamic convictions and the need to establish peace in that country.
Today, the Taliban leaders claim that the government led by President Rabbani was illegitimate and unislamic. They even branded the famous Mujahideen Commander Ahmad Shah Masood a criminal. Wherever the Taliban conquered, destruction and oppression has followed. So far, they have destroyed historic artwork in Herat, burned villages, committed atrocites against the Shias of Afghanistan, closed schools for girls, banned women from work,started an opium boom, and oppressed men not belonging to their group. In Kabul, they even gathered up hundreds of young men to use as human mine shields.
Pakistan created the Taliban, for the purpose of having indirect control over the policies made in Afghanistan. If Pakistan successfully installs a puppet regime in Afghanistan, they will benefit economically, the Durand treaty will be extended, and Afghanistan will continue to live occupied and in the dark ages.
History teaches us that foreigners do not have much luck in conquering the Afghan people. The British failed in the late 1800s and early 1900s and the Soviets failed recently. In fact, one of the factors that brought an end to the Soviet Empire was the defeat of the Red Army in Afghansitan. History tends to repeat itself: most likely, Pakistan will face the same doom.
Now you gys check what the world is saying about Taliban , i dont think so they are spreading islam but they are showing world Isalm is this kind of religion , they are uneducated mullas and they are giving wrong concept about islam .
what you will answer to the whole world???????
Muslims are like Taliban????
i m sorry if you think by this way we will spread islam in whole world you are wrong , j
oh really ! Well you think that is how the whole world is going to response to it.
What is more important? Allah (swt) or world? In this day of world if all the Muslims will at least listen to each other and understand each other for one second, we Muslims wouldn’t need the world.
Do you know what could be the reason which make a wife and mother of seven kids hammer her husband and a father of her seven children.
No matter what the reason is, why will a women kill a man of the house in a country like Afghanistan? Was she that selfish and weak that not only willing to kill her husband she intentionally killed her entire family? Who is supposed to provide now for the children? Not one, not two but 7! A true mother will drink poison for her children, getting beat up by a husband is nothing. Why didn’t she kill herself, at least the children would have someone to provide for them?
Btw, it was only a small fight between her and the husband; even raw says it on their website.
I am not defending her act of killin' but I just what you to THINK what could be the reason.. and GET TO KNOW WHAT WAS THE REASON.
The same can be said to you!
** I wish you could feel the pain the muslim are suffering specailly woman in AFghanistan.**
Really? Tell me what kind of pain? Pain for cutting their body parts? Pain of getting raped by 7 men at a time? Pain of kidnapping you and taking you to countries like Pakistan and Iran and have you prostitute for money?
*Think for a moment *
Exactly!
WHAT IF YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO GO OUT OF YOUR HOME?
Will you go out of your home when there are men standing out side of your house who haven’t seen a women in 30 years and just came back from war? Will you send your daughters sisters mothers wives out side? THINK FOR A MOMENT!
WHAT IF YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO GO OUT TO SCHOOL and IF YOU GO OUT YOU GET KILL FOR IT?
Will you send your daughters and sons to school when you know that someone can come and throw a grenade and blow them into pieces? Will you send your young daughters to school when you know that there is a big chance that she wont return or return raped? THINK ABOUT IT!
WHAT IF YOU JUST HAVE TO ACT ACCORDING TO SOME terrorist HUSBAND?
Why not? It was this terrorist husband that fought for them against RUSSIA, BRITISH, IRAN and other afghan ethnic with nothing but donated weapons. It wasn’t a western non-terrorist educated Doctor who came down and fought for them. It wasn’t any western Army. It wasn’t Pakistani Army. It wasn’t Indian Army. It wasn’t Arab army. It was these terrorist husbands that went hungry for days and with out water living in the cold mountains when they knew that a Russian missile could blow them up any second.
Don’t be so selfish woman! Don you think these Taliban like to have a nice car, a house, a TV, with a VCR, in it a top bollywood Indian movie playing? Yes they will love to! But if they are willing to make sacrifices then why can’t you?
Do you think the way TALIBAN are representain the ISLAM to the world is right?
Who is representing TRUE ISLAM? YOU? I? ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE? NO! Not even the ridiculous Arab nations! So don’t blame or point fingers at them because at least they are trying, unlike other nations who would rather be democratic instead of Islamic!
Well, If you think they are right then MAY ALLAH help you see the right path. Path of the true muslim. (amen)
Ameen sister! Name one nation like them, without technology, without army, without nuclear power, that have survived everything that these people have went through since the existence of their time and are still going through? Name anyone with their courage? NO ONE! So truly it’s a Miracle of Allah (swt). No doubt!
We are the Taleban-Resistance is Futile
Sin: Osama Bin Junior
[This message has been edited by yOuNgBrAt (edited April 12, 2001).]
Farhina,
You are soo ignorant. what made you believe that Taliban do not allow women to go outside.
If women are dying in Afghanistan then men are also dying for the same reason. If they do not take women to the hospital its not because they are creul, its because they do not have any doctors. Men and women are equally dying over there. The reason why this woman was killed was because she killed her husband. Islamically the punishment for killing is death. Why dont you first try to stop US where many people are executed for such crimes also. I know that some women were also goven lethal injecction in US. I dont know why you see it bad in Afghanistan and not bad in US.
Here is a part of an interview from a Taliban official:
RAY SUAREZ: One of the
problems with a lot of UN
agencies is that they have
standards for how aid is carried
out on the ground, and they
want to make sure that men
and women are treated equally
in the distribution of aid, that
certain standards of human rights that are upheld by the UN
are also upheld when the UN works in the country, and they
find, they say, and it’s very difficult in Afghanistan. Are you
being punished for having your own standards, your own
way of life, your own religious beliefs, being punished by the
UN, by these foreign countries?
SAYED RAHMATULLAH HASHIMI: The international assistance coming through the UN, and they are independent there to give it to the people. We have only paved their way. We have not created any kind of following for this. So they are not giving the assistance to us. They have their own office there supporting to people. So it is not going to the wrong place. And as far as their policies are concerned on women, and the work and education of women, we are very clear on that. We have said that whether or not the words tell us to have women education, we will have women education because that is what is in our ideology. That is what Koran says. And we have said that we want women to work, and they are still working in different ministries, in the minister of health, industry, education, social affairs, all these ministries. But definitely they don’t work for the ministry of defense, for they are not used as objects of decorations for advertisements. So we are against these things, it’s right. But we do want our women to be educated. We do want them to work. So when we say that there should be segregated schools or segregated schools or segregated education, it does not mean that we are against education of a woman. And we say that women should work apart from men. It doesn’t mean that we are against their work. They do work and they do educate now. The faculty of medical science for women who have started in all those measures is inverted in that.
unity, faith, discipline
If anyone thinks that Talibans are doing right
why he is not in Afganistan to help Taliban???
it will be the best to argue on internet ???
is better go and fight with Muslimsss???
and for ladies who have some doubt check the link http://mosaic.echonyc.com/~onissues/su98goodwin.html
February 27, 1998 Buried Alive Afghan Women Under the Taliban.
Nice story imtiazdgk, do you know the name of the story before Taliban? its Called Burned Alive by the arrogance of their own kind. Post something recent will ya?
We are the Taleban-Resistance is Futile
Sin: Osama Bin Junior
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Originally posted by yOuNgBrAt:
***oh really ! Well you think that is how the whole world is going to response to it.*
What is more important? Allah (swt) or world? In this day of world if all the Muslims will at least listen to each other and understand each other for one second, we Muslims wouldn’t need the world.
Do you know what could be the reason which make a wife and mother of seven kids hammer her husband and a father of her seven children.
No matter what the reason is, why will a women kill a man of the house in a country like Afghanistan? Was she that selfish and weak that not only willing to kill her husband she intentionally killed her entire family? Who is supposed to provide now for the children? Not one, not two but 7! A true mother will drink poison for her children, getting beat up by a husband is nothing. Why didn’t she kill herself, at least the children would have someone to provide for them?
Btw, it was only a small fight between her and the husband; even raw says it on their website.
I am not defending her act of killin' but I just what you to THINK what could be the reason.. and GET TO KNOW WHAT WAS THE REASON.
The same can be said to you!
** I wish you could feel the pain the muslim are suffering specailly woman in AFghanistan.**
Really? Tell me what kind of pain? Pain for cutting their body parts? Pain of getting raped by 7 men at a time? Pain of kidnapping you and taking you to countries like Pakistan and Iran and have you prostitute for money?
*Think for a moment *
Exactly!
WHAT IF YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO GO OUT OF YOUR HOME?
Will you go out of your home when there are men standing out side of your house who haven’t seen a women in 30 years and just came back from war? Will you send your daughters sisters mothers wives out side? THINK FOR A MOMENT!
WHAT IF YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO GO OUT TO SCHOOL and IF YOU GO OUT YOU GET KILL FOR IT?
Will you send your daughters and sons to school when you know that someone can come and throw a grenade and blow them into pieces? Will you send your young daughters to school when you know that there is a big chance that she wont return or return raped? THINK ABOUT IT!
WHAT IF YOU JUST HAVE TO ACT ACCORDING TO SOME terrorist HUSBAND?
Why not? It was this terrorist husband that fought for them against RUSSIA, BRITISH, IRAN and other afghan ethnic with nothing but donated weapons. It wasn’t a western non-terrorist educated Doctor who came down and fought for them. It wasn’t any western Army. It wasn’t Pakistani Army. It wasn’t Indian Army. It wasn’t Arab army. It was these terrorist husbands that went hungry for days and with out water living in the cold mountains when they knew that a Russian missile could blow them up any second.
Don’t be so selfish woman! Don you think these Taliban like to have a nice car, a house, a TV, with a VCR, in it a top bollywood Indian movie playing? Yes they will love to! But if they are willing to make sacrifices then why can’t you?
Do you think the way TALIBAN are representain the ISLAM to the world is right?
Who is representing TRUE ISLAM? YOU? I? ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE? NO! Not even the ridiculous Arab nations! So don’t blame or point fingers at them because at least they are trying, unlike other nations who would rather be democratic instead of Islamic!
Well, If you think they are right then MAY ALLAH help you see the right path. Path of the true muslim. (amen)
Ameen sister! Name one nation like them, without technology, without army, without nuclear power, that have survived everything that these people have went through since the existence of their time and are still going through? Name anyone with their courage? NO ONE! So truly it’s a Miracle of Allah (swt). No doubt!
**
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Really brother what do think why muslims are in such a bad conditions, i think the only reason is "jhalut" now you are sporting "JAHILL MULLAS" i think you r in fools paradise
Mullah Mohammad Omar is the leader of the Taliban militia which sprang out of Kandahar in 1994. He is considered to be one of the most mysterious figures in Afghan politics today. Followers of the Taliban claim that Mullah Omar was born in the central province of Uruzgan in 1962. They also say that he studied in several Islamic schools outside of Afghanistan (Quetta, Pakistan) before joining the Jihad against the Russian occupation in the 1980s.
Those who claim that they have seen Mullah Omar describe him as a determined man with one eye. Mullah Omar lost his other eye fighting the Soviets as a deputy Chief Commander in the Harakat-i-Inqilab-i Islami party of Mohammad Nabi Mohammadi.
The story in Kandahar is that Mullah Omar had a dream in which the Holy Prophet Muhammad
(peace be upon him) appeared to him and told him to bring peace to Afghanistan (US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT, 3-6-95). Mullah Omar then gathered men togother to fight against Rabbani's government. In reality this story is probably more myth than history.
Evidence shows that Mullah Omar is most likely a nominal figure trained and controlled by Pakistan's intelligence agency, the ISI. People opposed to Mullah Omar cry out that he is not even a Mullah. They claim that he is an illiterate and that he knows nothing about Islam. His opposers argue that Mullah Omar has made many mistakes when it comes to Islamic law. For example, Mullah Omar stated that the use of opium is wrong, but the selling of it is not wrong according to Islamic law. In reality, Islam forbids both the use and selling of any type of illegal drugs, including opium.
On April 3rd, 1996, about 1,000 so-called Muslim clergymen chose Mullah Omar as"Amirul-Mumineen"(Supreme Leader of the Muslims). They branded President Burhanuddin
Rabbani, a former Mujahideen leader who valiantly fought against Soviet Occupation, as a criminal!
It is extremelty difficult to present information about Mullah Omar, since he refuses to speak to journalists directly
imtiazdgk
If anyone thinks that Talibans are doing right why he is not in Afganistan to help Taliban?????????
**Why should I go or anyone that supports Taliban? I think they are in good hands.
You should go since you know that they are in trouble, and take Farhina with you also. I am sure she will fight for her Muslim sisters right? Wont you help your Muslim sisters in need? Won’t you stand up for Islam? Wont you protect Islam from their hands?**
We are the Taleban-Resistance is Futile
Sin: Osama Bin Junior
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Originally posted by imtiazdgk:
Mullah Mohammad Omar is the leader of the Taliban militia which sprang out of Kandahar in 1994. He is considered to be one of the most mysterious figures in Afghan politics today.
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You want to see how he looks like and who he is? I have his picture. The man was injured in war, and that is one of the reasons why he dont show himself. There are many other reasons also.
We are the Taleban-Resistance is Futile
Sin: Osama Bin Junior
what are they hell they are doing Killing their own Muslims ..................
TALIBAN CHRONOLOGY
Compiled by: Qazi brothers
1994
September
Taliban mysteriously appear into the Afghan political scene from Pakistan. They rescued a 30-truck Pakistani convoy heading to Central Asia.
1995
January
Taliban capture the province of Ghazni.
March 10
Taliban seize Karte Seh in Kabul province from Hezb-i-Wahdat, and capture its leader Abdul Ali Mazari.
March 11
Afghan government forces capture Karte Seh from the forces of the Taliban. Bandits and robbers enter the area looting peoples homes until the government set up a security force.
March 13
Abdul Ali Mazari leader of Hezbi-i-Wahdat while being transported to Kandahar by a Helicopter is killed by the Taliban. It is unclear if the Taliban killed him or if he died in a shootout with the Taliban after seizing a gun.
March 19
Afghan government troops defeat the Taliban in Charasyab and capture the town.
March 23
Commander Mohammad Panah a famous Mujahid who fought the Soviets was killed by the Taliban.
March 29
A mass grave dug by the Taliban consisting of 22 people mostly from Hezbi-i-Wahdat discovered in Charasyab.
May 10
Afghan government forces capture the provincial capital of Farah from the Taliban. Fifty Taliban fighters and seven Pakistanis were taken as prisoners.
August 25
Afghan government troops capture Grishk from the Taliban.
August 26
Taliban recapture Grishk from the Afghan government forces.
August 31
Taliban capture Delaram.
September 4
Taliban capture Shindand and Shindand airport.
September 5
Taliban capture Herat and close schools for boys and girls. Taliban label sports as unislamic.
September 6
Thousands of Afghans protesting the capture of Herat by the Taliban accuse Pakistan of supporting the Taliban. They were protesting in front of the Pakistani embassy in Kabul when someone from inside the embassy fired a shot killing a young student from Naderiya High School. The protectors in turn attacked the embassy and injured the Pakistani ambassodor Qazi Homayun. Five Afghan security forces died trying to stop the protestors.
September 24
The Washington Post in an article "Pakistan aid to rebels has Kabul tackling war" quotes the UN peace envoy Mahmoud Mestiri as saying "The power of the Taliban is mysterious"
September 26
The London Times, in an article "Students army gives notice of attack on Kabul" states the UN peace envoy Mahmoud Mestiri as saying "he was conviced Pakistan was behind the Taliban group"
December 17
Taliban fire 11 rockets into Kabul killing 12 civilians and wounding 15, two of the rockets hit Pul-i-Khisti masjid killing five of the worhippers.
December 20
Taliban fire 19 rockets into Kabul killing 14 civilans and wounding 25.
December 24
Taliban fire dozens of rockets into Kabul killing 5 civilans and wounding 8.
December 25
Taliban fire 10 rockets into Kabul wounding four civilans and damaging three homes.
December 26
Taliban fire six rockets int Kabul . No casualties reported.
December 30
Taliban commander Mullah Meshr and 70 of his men are killed in east Kabul when the Afghan government held air raids in the area.
1996
January 1
Taliban fire 14 rockets into Kabul killing three people and wounding 18. Three homes were also damaged in the attacks. Government planes bomb Charasyab killing 27 Taliban fighters.
January 2
Taliban fire 48 rockets into Kabul killing 22 people and wounding 48.
January 8
Taliban fire 77 rockets into Kabul killing 8 people and wounding 23. Three homes were also damaged in the same attack.
January 10
Taliban fire 23 rockets into Kabul killing 2 people and wounding 15. Six homes were also damaged in the same attack.
January 11
Taliban fire 14 rockets into Kabul killing 5 people and and wounding 14.
January 14
Taliban fire 9 rockets into Kabul wounding 1 child and damaging a house.
January 31
The bodies of 5 young people who were kidnapped by the Taliban from south Kabul were recovered from Charasyab. The bodies were brought to south Kabul by the local people where they were laid to rest. It is unclear why the Taliban kidnapped and then killed them.
April 3
Taliban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar is declared the Amir-ur-Momineen ( leader of all the Muslims)
June 1
Afghan government confirms the loss of Chaghcharan, capital of Ghor to the Taliban.
September 5
Taliban launch a major offensive in eastern Afghanistan capturing parts of Paktia held by Hezbi-Islami of Hekmatyar along with large amounts of weapons from an arms depot.
September 11
Taliban capture Nangarhar province along with its capital Jalalabad, thousands try flee to Pakistan. Pakistan closes its border with Afghanistan to prevent new refuges from entering that country. Haji Qadeer governor of Nangarhar flees to Pakistan and claimed that he surrendered Nangarhar to the Taliban to avoid civilian deaths.
September 13
Taliban capture the province of Laghman and its capital Mehtar Lam.
September 22
Taliban claimed to capture the province of Kunar.
September 25
Taliban capture the town of Sarobi, 31 miles east of Kabul.
September 27
The Taliban capture Kabul after Afghan government troops retreat fearing heavy civilian casualities.. The Taliban kill and hang former Afghan President Najibullah along with his brother, Shahpur Ahmadzai. Thousands flee north or to Pakistan.
September 28
Sebghatullah Mujadedi the leader of the National Islamic Salvation of Afghanistan issued a statement in support of the Taliban take over of Kabul. He stated complete support for the Taliban.
September 30
Taliban announced in the Afghan Capital Kabul that women should not report to work, they should stay home. Spokesman for the Taliban, Wakil Ahmad told reporters that the women will be paid. Days later in a CNN interveiw the Taliban deputy foreign minister Sher Mohammad Istanikzai claimed that the Taliban are without funds.
October 1
Sher Mohammed Istanikzai, the Taliban duputy foreign minister in Kabul calimed to have trapped the famous Afghan commander Ahmed Shah Masood in Panjshir valley were Masood previously defeated many Soviet attacks. Istanikzai also said that "we don't want to fight against Dostum". Mawlawi Mohammad Yunus Khales, the leader of Hezb-i-Islami of Afghanistan announced his support for the Taliban in Jalalabad.
October 2
Taliban introduce forced prayer five times a day in Kabul. Amnesty International accuse the Taliban of commiting a reign of terror in the Afghan capital, Kabul. Amnesty said that children and women are being ill-treated by the Taliban. Pakistani Foreign Minister Sardar Aseff Ali said his country recognized the Taliban as Afghanistan's legitimate rulers and called their leaders "men of piety, (with) great love for Islam."
October 10
Deputy Foreign Minister of Afghanistan Abdul Ghafoorzai denounced the Taliban at the UN. Taliban leaders call Rashid Dostum a "Muslim and an Afghan".
October 24
Taliban burn Sar Chesma, a small valliage north of the capital Kabul.
October 29
Five civilians are killed in the village of Kalakan when a rocket fired by the Taliban hit their home.
October 30
After the Taliban failed to sweet talk Rashid Dostum into joining their ranks, they declare Jihad on Dostum.
November 2
People in the province of Kunar rose against the Taliban but the Duputy Governor of Nangrahar Sadr-e-Azam appointed by the Taliban said that the revolts were "totally crushed".
November 3
Taliban threaten to kill relief workers working for the Red Cross because the Red Cross employed women. Iran accused the Taliban of fostering the drug trade on its frontier, in the western provinces of Afghanistan.
November 5
Mullah Muhammad Mutaqi, the Information and Culture Minister for the Taliban confirms that a senior Taliban representative had gone to Saudi Arabia "to talk to Saudi authorities", but many believe it to be a mission in search of money.
November 9
Voice of America reports that the Taliban serverely beat a foreign aid worker.
December 3
The Taliban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar tells its members over Kabul Radio to relax their harsh treatment of people in the Afghan capital kabul.
what are they hell they are doing Killing their own Muslims ..................
Where were you when non-muslims were killing these muslims. Okay lets say you weren't born at that time. Can you help the Muslims against the Yahoodiz? Or are you going to post stuff about them also?
We are the Taleban-Resistance is Futile
Sin: Osama Bin Junior
Really brother what do think why muslims are in such a bad conditions, i think the only reason is "jhalut" now you are sporting "JAHILL MULLAS" i think you r in fools paradise
Yes brother, the truth is always hard to swallow. Can you tell me why our beloved Prophet (pbuh) all his life was laughed at, cursed at and even lived his entire life miserable? Let me guess, in your eyes he was Jahill? He was a Mulla? That’s why? No brother, I don’t even think, I am sure that you are in fools paradise.
Salaam,
Ps> later I will reply to one of your articles above. Don’t have any time right now :)
We are the Taleban-Resistance is Futile
Sin: Osama Bin Junior
Yes brother, the truth is always hard to swallow. Can you tell me why our beloved Prophet (pbuh) all his life was laughed at, cursed at and even lived his entire life miserable? Let me guess, in your eyes he was Jahill? He was a Mulla? That’s why? No brother, I don’t even think, I am sure that you are in fools paradise.
Salaam,
Ps> later I will reply to one of your articles above. Don’t have any time right now :)
Brother i m sorry to say are comparing Jhil Mulla with Prophet, sorry to say you are not thinking they prophet bulid the bulding and these Jahil mullas are trying to destroy it
but believe me they will not able to do that i think you should not be emotional but think and see the facts as facts are difficult to swallow .and please dont compare anybody to prophet
thank you
khuda app ko sahi rah duikay (amen)
oh nuts, my reply didn't go through:-/ sighzamazoiders, alright here goes..
Public executions are not a crime.
There is no doubt that there must have reasons for what took place, and i think the article did go into that. Whether justice was served in the case of this woman, i don't know. But thats not something you can put down to the taliban, there are flaws in the justice systems of countries the world over, whether they have a bias based on wealth, gender, class,etc., its not something limited to Afghanistan.
Farhina, i'm sorry if my words seem to upset you. Thats not at all what i intended.
Murder is wrong, correct? And its equally wrong to think that people should be let off for their crimes on the basis of their gender,wealth. Each country has in place sets of laws that deal with such people, and in cases when someone is convicted of the crime sometimes they are sentenced to death, and this is not something exclusive to Afghanistan or something invented by the Taliban.
Speaking of inventions, its true the Taliban have enforced the wearing of the burqa, but they have not invented it, the burqa is something that Afghani/Pakistani women--particularly in the NWFP area have worn for hundreds of years--by choice. And it is something that was practiced by the majority of Afghani women even before the taliban came into being. True it was not so prevalent in cities such as Kabul and maybe even Kandahar, not only as those cities were more 'westernized' but also as those cities received the largest influx of newcomers, mainly turks, uzbeks, and iranians--who had fled the islamic revolution in their own country, therefore not so apt or willing of the movement of the taliban. Subsequently it was those people, mainly 'outsiders' who raised the greatest hue and cry against the taliban; as well as agents paid by the soviet government, who went on to set up organizations such as RAWA, and W4W(women for women-- in n.america).
Farhina, You talk about the pain, and the suffering about the muslims in afghanistan, singling out specifically the women of afghanistan.
Women are working in Afghanistan.
Women are attending educational facilities in Afghanistan wherever possible.--Tell me, how do you send children, male and female, to school when there is no school to go to?
Women are allowed out of their homes they are NOT being kept prisoner.
Yes there is widespread suffering in Afghanistan, men, women and children are dying by the day, due to starvation and exposure, widowed and orphaned by decades of war, crippled by landmines.
Farhina i'm not sure where that bit about terrorist husbands came from but in Islam, before marriage, a woman is answerable to her parents specifically her father, after she gets married, that responsibility is transferred to her husband. Thats in Islam. Whether her husband is a terrorist or a pacifist she must obey him unless what he says goes against the teachings of Islam.
I just have one question for all of you who believe so strongly in the atrocities supposedly being perpetrated by the Taliban, if you care so much about the welfare of Afghani women, where were you six, eight, even ten years ago, when they were being raped, mutilated, killed in front of their children? Is that not considered an atrocity? You seem to think bringing peace, stability, security to a country is atrocious.
Honestly if you guys sincerely care about whats happening right now, to better help the women of Afghanistan try showing some compassion by aiding a country devasted by decades of war, hit by the worst drought in fifty years, and continually crippled by sanctions imposed by the international community which inhibit those in power from rebuilding the infrastructure of this country, do so for the sake of the women, the children, and the men of Afghanistan.
[This message has been edited by Girl from Quraysh (edited April 12, 2001).]
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Originally posted by yOuNgBrAt:
***oh really ! Well you think that is how the whole world is going to response to it.*
What is more important? Allah (swt) or world? In this day of world if all the Muslims will at least listen to each other and understand each other for one second, we Muslims wouldn’t need the world.
nODOUBT ALLAH. YA ONLY IF ALL THE MUSLIM NOT HYPOCRATES LIKE SO CALL TALIBAN
Do you know what could be the reason which make a wife and mother of seven kids hammer her husband and a father of her seven children.
No matter what the reason is, why will a women kill a man of the house in a country like Afghanistan? Was she that selfish and weak that not only willing to kill her husband she intentionally killed her entire family? Who is supposed to provide now for the children? Not one, not two but 7! A true mother will drink poison for her children, getting beat up by a husband is nothing. Why didn’t she kill herself, at least the children would have someone to provide for them?
Btw, it was only a small fight between her and the husband; even raw says it on their website.
YA TRUTH CAN BE HIUDDEN BY SAYING STUFF LIKE SMALL FIGHT
I am not defending her act of killin' but I just what you to THINK what could be the reason.. and GET TO KNOW WHAT WAS THE REASON.
The same can be said to you!
ITS THAT WHAT YOU JUST WANTTO SAY
** I wish you could feel the pain the muslim are suffering specailly woman in AFghanistan.**
Really? Tell me what kind of pain? Pain for cutting their body parts? Pain of getting raped by 7 men at a time? Pain of kidnapping you and taking you to countries like Pakistan and Iran and have you prostitute for money?
OH REALLY! YOU THINK TALBAIN ARE PROTECTING THIS ALL HAPPEN ! NO THE ARE JUST PUNISHING LEFT AND RIGHT TO WOMEN BECUASE THEY ARE COWARDS
*Think for a moment *
Exactly!
WHAT IF YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO GO OUT OF YOUR HOME?
Will you go out of your home when there are men standing out side of your house who haven’t seen a women in 30 years and just came back from war? Will you send your daughters sisters mothers wives out side? THINK FOR A MOMENT!
OH YES I WILL LET THEM GO OUTSIDE AND PROTECT THEM. DO NOT HIDE THEM BECUASE OF THE FEAR OF MAN FROM WAR. BE MEN NOT COWARDS
WHAT IF YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO GO OUT TO SCHOOL and IF YOU GO OUT YOU GET KILL FOR IT?
Will you send your daughters and sons to school when you know that someone can come and throw a grenade and blow them into pieces? Will you send your young daughters to school when you know that there is a big chance that she wont return or return raped? THINK ABOUT IT!
IF I WERE COWARD I WILL NOT . BUT IF BRAVE YES AND FIGHT THE WRONGFUL ACT
WHAT IF YOU JUST HAVE TO ACT ACCORDING TO SOME terrorist HUSBAND?
Why not? It was this terrorist husband that fought for them against RUSSIA, BRITISH, IRAN and other afghan ethnic with nothing but donated weapons. It wasn’t a western non-terrorist educated Doctor who came down and fought for them. It wasn’t any western Army. It wasn’t Pakistani Army. It wasn’t Indian Army. It wasn’t Arab army. It was these terrorist husbands that went hungry for days and with out water living in the cold mountains when they knew that a Russian missile could blow them up any second.
OH PLEASE , JUST BECUASE THEY DID SOME NICE ACT TO PROTECT THE COUNTRY ONE SHOULD OBEY THEM. WELL I AM SOOOOOOO SORRY. TELL THEM TO BE BRAVE AN ACT BRAVE IN HOUSE FIRST AND PROTECT THEIR WOMAN FIRST
Don’t be so selfish woman! Don you think these Taliban like to have a nice car, a house, a TV, with a VCR, in it a top bollywood Indian movie playing? Yes they will love to! But if they are willing to make sacrifices then why can’t you?
THEY WILL IF THEY STOP BEING "JAHIL" AND ACT PROPERLY THEN TRYING TO BE EGOISTIC"
Do you think the way TALIBAN are representain the ISLAM to the world is right?
Who is representing TRUE ISLAM? YOU? I? ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE? NO! Not even the ridiculous Arab nations! So don’t blame or point fingers at them because at least they are trying, unlike other nations who would rather be democratic instead of Islamic!
ISLAMIC! WHICH ISLAMIC COUNTRY YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. TRUE MUSLIM ARE NOT LIKE TALIBAN. THAT IS FOR SURE.
Well, If you think they are right then MAY ALLAH help you see the right path. Path of the true muslim. (amen)
Ameen sister! Name one nation like them, without technology, without army, without nuclear power, that have survived everything that these people have went through since the existence of their time and are still going through? Name anyone with their courage? NO ONE! So truly it’s a Miracle of Allah (swt). No doubt!
WHAT GREAT THE ARE DOING TO NATION OF ISLAM? MIRACLE OF ALLAH(SWT) IS YET TO HAPPEN YOU WATCH AND WAIT TILL IMAM MHEDI(AS)
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